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Options for Fiance to Canada

Phil-Canada

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Dec 22, 2012
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I see every case is different and every case has different options. Here is my case step by step/

I am Canadian Citizen.

My Girlfriend is in Philipines. We have been Talking online for 6 months and we want to take this relationship to the next level. "I know this is considered a short time"

I own a small business here in BC Canada. A small family grocery store but without the family.

I would like to bring her here on a temporary visa and marry her here and apply for spousal visa inland and just wait for that prosess. I understand she can stay here untill that is approved or denied.

Problem with that is I dont know if she will qualify for temp visitor visa due to her ties in Philippines. No Job Just family there.

My other choice is to go to Philippines and Marry her there then apply for her to come here as a spouse.

However the time to get that approved or denied is so long to be apart and she would never be able to visit untill aproved or denied.

I am not worried about her having a work visa as she dosnt need to work while she is here I can support her.

Can a imigration Lawyer speed this prosess up?

Do we need to go thru the expense of maybe a study visa? She is 29 y/o no kids never married.

Any help would be appreciated.

Next Option Is to sell up here my business vehicals etc and move to the Philippnes and start a business there.

Thanks

Wish us luck
 

steaky

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Immigration lawyer will not speed things up and I have heard some would actually mess things up. I suggest you do it by yourself. It's not difficult.
 

Sweden

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An Immigration lawyer won't speed up the process. If your case is not complicated ( no kids, no previous relationship/sponsorship) you can fill out the paper by yourself.

You can't sponsor her until you're either married, or common-law ( been living together for 12 months).

You can try and get her a tourist or a study visa, but there are chances that it will be denied because CIC will see the risk of her staying in the country, and not going back to the Philippines. If you want to try though, you can always give it a go - but very high chances of denial.

As you are Canadian, you can be outside of Canada for the whole process. So you can choose: or go to the Philippines, get married, apply for spousal PR, and come back to Canada and wait for your spouse to get her PR, or move to the Philippines, get married, apply for PR< and wait the PR time with your spouse in the Philippines, and move back to Canada once her visa is approved - up to you.

GOod luck,
Sweden
 

Phil-Canada

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Dec 22, 2012
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Can I prove Conjugal spouse if we have been talking for a year with proof of chats and money/ gifts etc.

Thanks
 

Sweden

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Phil-Canada said:
Can I prove Conjugal spouse if we have been talking for a year with proof of chats and money/ gifts etc.

Thanks
no - conjugal won't work. Conjugal partner category is for people that can not marry at all. If you're not married, and your gf is not married either, you can go to the Philippines and get married to her, so conjugal partner won't work.
The categories that you can apply as are : married, or common-law ( if you go to the philippines, live together for 12 months, and then apply).
Sweden
 

Phil-Canada

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Dec 22, 2012
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Sorry I am just trying to cover all bases here. If I were to buy her a small business there say water store or internet cafe would that qualify her as ties to the philippines and could she get tourist visa then? Would they look at the time the business is running and say no anyway because it looks fishy?

I would really like for her to come here as I have a good business.

Any thoughts on how I could get her here and apply for inland visa??

I know I may be asking something that isnt possible but I have to ask. :(
 

canadianwoman

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Phil-Canada said:
I would like to bring her here on a temporary visa and marry her here and apply for spousal visa inland and just wait for that prosess. I understand she can stay here untill that is approved or denied.
To get a TRV she will have to prove she intends to return to the Philippines. With no job she is not likely to get one. To get a study permit she also has to prove she will return.
If you helped set up a business for her, that would be proof of her ties to the country. She would have to wait a bit to make it look like a legitimate business.
Can a imigration Lawyer speed this prosess up?
No. If they say they can, they are lying. Avoid those.

One problem you would have if you went to the Philippines, married her on the first visit, then came back to Canada to wait while her sponsorship was processed: this is not enough of a relationship history to prove you two have a genuine marriage. So that will result in longer processing times and most likely an interview for her. An interview is not necessarily bad - it gives the applicant the chance to show the visa officer the relationship is real - but it does delay processing.
If you could go to the Philippines and stay there with her for some time, that would help show the relationship is genuine. If you got married, I would still try to stay for 6 months. Or I would make several shorter trips to see her before getting married. This makes the development of the relationship seem more believable. One of the things you have to prove is how the relationship developed. If you stayed there a year, you could then apply for her as your common-law spouse, though it would be easier and most likely more acceptable to her to get married (I don't know, am just guessing here.)

Conjugal won't work, as mentioned, because there is nothing stopping you from getting married.
 

Phil-Canada

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Dec 22, 2012
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You people are awsome thanks for your honest answers. Thats what I needed. Does anyone want to buy a Grocery store on Vancouver Island haha

Seems like that may be plan B.
 

jiggyzealous

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My friend, if your situation isnt complicated (you dont have children outside the country, have no medical or criminal issues, no previous marriages/divorces/ sponsorship etc) then you are good to go. I guess CIC loves to see people starting out their very frst and potentially lasting relation. You do not need a lawyer. Many of them collect a lot of money from people, to fill out a few forms. Fill out your forms careful, and on additional papers express your hearts to CIC. They are human being. The worse thing that could happen is that they may call you in for an interview and so what? If you are for real, an interview shouldnt be an issue. Lawyers are damn liars. They promise you the world and can give you no guarantee. Fill out your papers yourself and you will be familiar with your info
 

amikety

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Phil-Canada said:
You people are awsome thanks for your honest answers. Thats what I needed. Does anyone want to buy a Grocery store on Vancouver Island haha

Seems like that may be plan B.
Oh, I wish. We even have small family groceries in our family background. Would you take the price of your flight to Manila and the PR fees? :D

As it was mentioned, you need to spend time together before getting married and sponsoring her. Never meeting her in person before is a big red flag. Only being in a relationship for six months is also a red flag. It won't prevent you from sponsoring her, but it will make things harder and the process longer. Try for the TRV (no mention of marriage or sponsorship, just visiting). Even if she is denied, it will show proof she tried to visit you.
 

Luckyman

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I've been down your road... And am still traveling it Haha.
I moved to Phil, got married and stayed for 10 months to help support our case. It's now been almost 10 months apart... So I think your plan B is your best option.

PM me for any more info. Cheers!
 

Sweden

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Phil-Canada said:
OK stupid question. How do I PM someone.
try clicking on the name of the person you want to pm, and see if you have the option of "sending a pm to this person". If not, then you need to post at least 10 times ( you're almost there!). after 10 times, you'll be able to add info on the sideline under your name, and send PM to anybody on the forum.
Good luck!
Sweden
 

PMM

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Phil-Canada said:
I see every case is different and every case has different options. Here is my case step by step/

I am Canadian Citizen.

My Girlfriend is in Philipines. We have been Talking online for 6 months and we want to take this relationship to the next level. "I know this is considered a short time"

I own a small business here in BC Canada. A small family grocery store but without the family.

I would like to bring her here on a temporary visa and marry her here and apply for spousal visa inland and just wait for that prosess. I understand she can stay here untill that is approved or denied.

Problem with that is I dont know if she will qualify for temp visitor visa due to her ties in Philippines. No Job Just family there.

My other choice is to go to Philippines and Marry her there then apply for her to come here as a spouse.

However the time to get that approved or denied is so long to be apart and she would never be able to visit untill aproved or denied.

I am not worried about her having a work visa as she dosnt need to work while she is here I can support her.

Can a imigration Lawyer speed this prosess up?

Do we need to go thru the expense of maybe a study visa? She is 29 y/o no kids never married.

Any help would be appreciated.

Next Option Is to sell up here my business vehicals etc and move to the Philippnes and start a business there.

Thanks

Wish us luck
Maybe you should at least meet the girl in person, before you start proposing marriage, by visiting her in the Philippines.
 

Steph C

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Phil-Canada said:
You people are awsome thanks for your honest answers. Thats what I needed. Does anyone want to buy a Grocery store on Vancouver Island haha

Seems like that may be plan B.
You can try for a visitor's visa for her. The cost is $75 that you won't get back, but you will know within a few weeks if she is approved or denied. For god's sake don't buy her a store or an internet cafe especially if you haven't met her yet. I hope you haven't been talking about that with her ??? As many horror stories of scammers in the Philippines, there are plenty of lovely people, and you have to be sure you've got yourself a genuine catch.. follow your heart.
Go to the Philippines and visit her. Meet her family, get a sense of her values, take her to Boracay. Me and Sweden can hold down your store until you come back 8) Marriage is your best option, but don't rush in too quickly or it will be scrutinized.