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Leon

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davide445 said:
Since I don't want and I'm not able anyway to compete with local skilled workers, there is some way to know what jobs are in shortage, so to
1. apply only for them and not wasting my and others time proposing myself for local fitted jobs
2. know how much and where are these jobs
Huh? If you want to get a job, doesn't it make sense to apply in your field? Would it help you to know that there is a shortage of pipefitters in AB when you are not a pipefitter? Or you want to get a low skilled job? Why did you study then? Besides, taking a low skilled job is pretty bad for your immigration plans. Low skilled TFW's for the most part can stay on work permits only so long but they have limited options to apply for permanent residency.

In my opinion, you should apply for jobs in your field, look online. If nobody is interested, you may conclude that your skills are not needed in Canada and look for jobs in the EU. If you do get somebody interested, you might think about doing a skype interview or even going to Canada to do some face to face interviews. If you get someone to apply for an LMO for you and they get it, you can apply for a work permit and an open work permit for your wife and you can move to Canada. After a year of work, you can apply for your permanent residency for you and your wife.

The article you linked to is about the TFW program as a whole. It is not really relevant to your personal case. If the LMO system is working, then the employer would not get an LMO for you if there are people in Canada who want the job. However, just saying that there are 6 people unemployed for each new position says nothing because very few of these unemployed people have your skills and even if they did, they might live thousands of KM away from this job position and because of their personal or family situation, they may not be willing to move. As for the TFW program bringing the wages down, that is not necessarily the case. In some cases, employers complain that they are unable to get LMO's offering the same wages they pay to locals because Service Canada has decided they should be paying more and of course they can't discriminate and pay a TFW more just to get an LMO for him than what they pay their Canadian staff.
 

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hello Leon,i need your opinion and advice. i a full time international student in Canada for 2 years now. i got married to my fiancee in the USA last year December. she is an american citizen but stop college because of family frustration.(may not qualify for NAFTA program). living apart has been painful for both of us. now we are both planning for her to come and live with me here temporary until we both figure out how she can go back to school and complet it (nursing program). i have not change my statues yet to married. since she does not need a TRV to visit me here, i was wondering if she can go ahead and apply for open work permit once she comes for a visit. do i need to change my statues at the school and with cic too as married? or the marriage document will be enough prove? finally what would be the best advice here. she has already tried the job search but no employer willing to give her an offer based on the fact that she does not have a work permit or legal status in canada.
 

davide445

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Thanks for you clarification.
About the first statement I wasn't explaining myself well: I want obviously to do a skilled job, the whole about relocating in Canada both for me and my wife it's about better qualified work opportunities.
Only it's a question of efficiency in my search: better post for (skilled) positions where I know there are shortages. But how to identify them?

My idea is: search for temporary positions first, or there also shortages into permanent one?
 

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My advice to anyone interested in working in Canada is to apply for jobs you are qualified for and do your best to highlight your strengths. It is true that some employers would rather not do paperwork, but do not be discouraged by that. If you go through the interview and are the best fit for the job, believe me that employer will do what they have to in order to hire you.

No use looking at numbers because there are always other variables at play. Sometimes qualified people don't get job offers because they are not the right fit for the company culture. Another example is the controversy over Royal Bank bringing in foreign workers. As you can see, depending on the employer and what's in the pie for them, they are happy to bring in foreign labor.

davide445 said:
I was reading this Friday, Apr. 19 2013 The Globe and Mail article http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/foreign-workers-a-boon-for-employers-for-canada-not-so-much/article11433730/ about temporary workers, appear TFW program can create trouble for low-skilled jobs.
Reading the infographic appear also high-skills jobs are just some thousand, so really few in fact.

Since I don't want and I'm not able anyway to compete with local skilled workers, there is some way to know what jobs are in shortage, so to
1. apply only for them and not wasting my and others time proposing myself for local fitted jobs
2. know how much and where are these jobs
 

Leon

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davide445 said:
Only it's a question of efficiency in my search: better post for (skilled) positions where I know there are shortages. But how to identify them?

My idea is: search for temporary positions first, or there also shortages into permanent one?
I don't think I understand your questions. Surely you look for job ads that match your skills. What does it matter where there are shortages?

What do you mean by temporary positions vs. permanent positions? When an employer hires someone for a job, it is because they need that person. If they continue to need that person, it is a permanent position. If they need them for a short time only, it would be a temporary position. This has absolutely nothing to do with being on a work permit vs. being a permanent resident. In order to get your year of full time work in order to apply for your PR, it would only make sense for you to look for a permanent position, year or longer because otherwise, you would have the problem of needing to find a new employer, getting a new LMO and new work permit when your temporary job ends. Of course nobody can guarantee that any position will be permanent. The company may have a problem and have to lay people off but in my opinion, you should not bother apply for jobs where it is known up front that it is a temporary position for less than a year.
 

davide445

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Ok so no shortcut for job search :)

Can be a good idea to contact job agencies to present myself, so to know how is the local need for my skills?
 

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Yes, you can try agencies but I think you are better off looking for a job yourself. You never know how much work the agency really does or if they are just taking your money and doing nothing. In some provinces employment agencies are not allowed to charge you for finding you a job, they charge the employer instead but they may still request fees for other things like helping you rewrite your CV to Canadian standards and other things.
 

davide445

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Leon said:
Yes, you can try agencies but I think you are better off looking for a job yourself. You never know how much work the agency really does or if they are just taking your money and doing nothing. In some provinces employment agencies are not allowed to charge you for finding you a job, they charge the employer instead but they may still request fees for other things like helping you rewrite your CV to Canadian standards and other things.
Was thinking to use agencies just to speed my check for market sentiment about my profile. They will be interested to evaluate a profile, without a specific job opening?