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[Sardar Ali]

@sab479
Where did you get admission and in which discipline/degree?

 

[Sab479]

PhD Department of Computer Science, University of New Brunswick

 

[Sardar Ali]

It means we will be at the two opposite extreme corners of Canada.

 

[Sab479]

Oh yeh! your area is much better weather wise .I am going to a colder area, provided if we both got visa on time.I am also not sure if the university will extend my start date.

 

[Sardar Ali]

Thanks @ sab479

Please note my email address (sardar.ali@seecs.edu.pk) and I prefer that we have to discuss about our scholarship and relate things in personal. Other members of this forum may feel that we are discussing personal matters other than the visa on the forum.

Tell me (via email) about hour research interests in detail. You can find mine here at http://www.wisnet.seecs.nust.edu.pk/people/~ali/

 

[Sab479]

Thanks @ sab479

Please note my email address (sardar.ali @ seecs.edu.pk) and I prefer that we have to discuss about our scholarship and relate things in personal. Other members of this forum may feel that we are discussing personal matters other than the visa on the forum.

Tell me (via email) about hour research interests in detail. You can find mine here at http://www.wisnet.seecs.nust.edu.pk/people/~ali/

@ Sardar I am working on parallel and distributed systems. my Email address is sajjad [at] ncp[dot]edu[dot]pk

 

[nazia2k]

Mashallah, interesting resume there . Sardar ali. I have got a question. Don't mind me asking this . What's up with this Phd stuff. ? Will you earn more salary wise? I have gone through personal profile of many professors at Pakistani universities . They hold Phds from university of British Columbia , macgill , from UK universities yet they are teaching at Pakistani universities . Why aren't they working in the real world?

 

[Sab479]

@ nazia2K PhD is not about money or position its about the passion for research. I already have a very good job and position but I guess it would be better to go for PhD and enhance my research credentials. I would love to come back and work in Pakistan abroad is not a charming place for me as I have spent some time working internationally. Once you are there you will find that it is much tougher in abroad than Pakistan. Pakistan is like heaven

 

[Sardar Ali]

What do you mean by real world? Our country need PhDs. I particularly observed here in NUST that our professors are working on real world problems, conducting high impact research. Pakistan is a rising star in the research community. We are the only country where the research output is increasing each year at a scale of more than 200% increase per year. You may not realize at this stage but later on you must realize that how much direct impact of these people have on the economy of our country.

Only if we consider the economic advantage of PhDs on our country, as an example, only my current adviser is getting million dollar research projects from overseas and all this money is being spent locally on students and professionals (hired as research assistants) in the form of their salaries according to expertise.

If this research trend continues, we can commercialize our research and can produce some novel products which will benefit our country in long term.

I also had a misconception like you that research is something theoretical and bla bla bla
But now I realized its impact and its immediate practical impacts on our society.

We can have this discussion some how offline (may be at skype or phone ), if you are interested.

 

[nazia2k]

@Sab . Thanks. Ok. It is all about passion . We young people see things in terms of money. But,Just for a cricket match , universities are shut down, papers are cancelled . offices are closed. Do you think your further research will help Pakistan in such a environment back home. Top it off, power outrage.

 

[Sab479]

Results are beyond of any body's control ultimately it is your efforts that count. People here are already doing very good work. And my impression about our people is they are very talented they can makeup for wasted time (matches etc.), and believe me it is not emotional statement

 

[cooldude10]

asleep.

what the hell r they doing, they take too long to process an application.

 

[nazia2k]

@ Sab. You have worked in the real world. Worked for different employers in different countries. So I would take your word for it. In the USA, time is money, no one talks. Nothing gets shut down . Work, work, work. Leads the world on technological front. I hope Pakistan catches up with the rest of the world . That's all I want to say
But yeah I agree with that talent part, but not sure about making up for the time lost.

 

[nazia2k]

@sardar ali. Computer is not my field. I hope you know what you are talking about. But counting "ifs" and "cans" in your post does not paint a nice picture. I hope Pakistani universities produce students who can release a bug free window operating system for the world to use and get fame like the owners of twitter, facebook and YouTube. All the best.

 

[Sab479]

This would be unfair to say that we should catch up with any developed country.They are spending so much on the education and research. Me and Sardar are example, they are paying us to do research .Paklistan practically spending nothing on education and still people are doing nice job in the area of research.I hope once the highly educated people like sardar and like you will return back they could contribute in much positive way.Our next generation will have much beter educational oppertunities and few of them will be wondring around different embassies.