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Damocles

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App. Filed.......
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Doc's Request.
09-Dec-2016
Nomination.....
16-Dec-2016
AOR Received.
26-Jan-2017 and 03-May-2017
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vensak said:
Nice. Good progress for you.
Thanks!!

I just want to clarify the 4 item ( the second 4) in your response to Christina4.
I think she would need the PCC of her current country if she is currently living there or has lived there for more than 6 month since she turned 18 years. Unless that country is Canada.
 

Christina4

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Vensak , thanks for your reply ! One more question , is it possible after ITA to travel to Ontario on a tourist visa to do some preliminary settlement research , or is that not advisable until PPR ?
 

Christina4

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Thanks Damocles . I have already gathered all PCC including my home country . I still need a letter from my bank , as I think that bank statements alone do not suffice , and a couple of translations (marriage certificate etc) . also my children;s passports will expire in June , so it is probably wise to renew them before uploading them after Ita
 

Damocles

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Jul 22, 2016
349
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Johannesburg
Category........
PNP
Visa Office......
Pretoria?
NOC Code......
2133
App. Filed.......
06-Jul-2016
Doc's Request.
09-Dec-2016
Nomination.....
16-Dec-2016
AOR Received.
26-Jan-2017 and 03-May-2017
Med's Request
Upfront
Med's Done....
17-Mar-2017
Christina4 said:
Vensak , thanks for your reply ! One more question , is it possible after ITA to travel to Ontario on a tourist visa to do some preliminary settlement research , or is that not advisable until PPR ?
If you already have the tourist visa in your passport, I do not see why not. I would be nice to prepare by doing a LSD (Look, See and Decide) trip before you relocate. I do not know about applying for one when you submit your eAPR though.
 

vensak

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Damocles said:
Thanks!!

I just want to clarify the 4 item ( the second 4) in your response to Christina4.
I think she would need the PCC of her current country if she is currently living there or has lived there for more than 6 month since she turned 18 years. Unless that country is Canada.
Yes, my bad, I put 2x point 4. And yes she will need that as well, but that one is better to request after Nomination (then she will be sure that she will get ITA Fast).

As for your visit to Ontario. Why not it can be a good idea.
If you are visa exempt, all you need is travelling ETA. That one is easy to be done. Just consider, that at some point you might need to send your passport to your LVO.
If you need visa, you can still apply for tourist visa and even state it as exploratory viisit. You just need to be clear in your LOE with your visa application, that you do not intent to stay there without valid PR and should your PR be rejected you do plan to return home (more or less, do not cut off your country ties yet).

But hey, Ontario PNP have 98% success rate with the PR applications.
 

Bosco0808

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Apr 17, 2015
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Dont Know
NOC Code......
1215
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
09 Dec 16
Doc's Request.
26 Jan 17
Nomination.....
27 Feb 17
IELTS Request
Upfront
As for your visit to Ontario. Why not it can be a good idea.
If you are visa exempt, all you need is travelling ETA. That one is easy to be done. Just consider, that at some point you might need to send your passport to your LVO.
If you need visa, you can still apply for tourist visa and even state it as exploratory viisit. You just need to be clear in your LOE with your visa application, that you do not intent to stay there without valid PR and should your PR be rejected you do plan to return home (more or less, do not cut off your country ties yet).

But hey, Ontario PNP have 98% success rate with the PR applications.

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Hey, do we know what are the reasons of the rejection of those 2% cases.

Thanks
 

vensak

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here is my guessing.

Most of them should be medical or criminality (for example driving drunk, or problem with weed in young age).
And then tiny bit can hit security problems.

As you can see, here you can pretty much estimate, if you have such potential blocker or not.
When it comes to medical a lot can be done and argued as there his big grey area.
When it comes to criminal, you might need to check if your potential inadmissibility is permanent or if you have restauration period there and then if you already passed that one.
And for securtiy (you know best if you ever had any connections to organised crime).

With that said, normal applicant has nothing much to worry about.
 

RoyBa

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vensak said:
There is no CRS score requirement for the French stream.
You are required French on CBL 7+ and English on CBL 6+, university degree 3 years or more and 1 year of work experience within last 5 years.

I had even lower score but I got nomination under French stream.
I registered for EE and job bank on 21st of Feb, and received the score of 402 points.
I do meet selection criteria for both French and Enlish. Frech was mentioned as main language.
In the application, I have indicated only my master university degree of 1 year.
Since I haven't received any nomination since, I am wondering if I need also to submit my bachelor degree of 4 years

Thank you for your opinion in advance
 

vensak

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RoyBa said:
I registered for EE and job bank on 21st of Feb, and received the score of 402 points.
I do meet selection criteria for both French and Enlish. Frech was mentioned as main language.
In the application, I have indicated only my master university degree of 1 year.
Since I haven't received any nomination since, I am wondering if I need also to submit my bachelor degree of 4 years

Thank you for your opinion in advance
ok, just to make sure. Check following:
1. French first language with CBL 7+ on each skill (if you are FSW, then it will not let you to put it lower and be able to activate all.
2. English second language with CBL 6+ on each skill.
3. One year work experience within last 5 years
4. Education - what you have stated, here you seem to meet criteria. (but if you also have ECA for that other degree, you can add it as well).
5. You have either chosen all provinces an territories or Ontario (if you did it correctly, you will have Ontario data collection disclaimer written there and you need to tag it as accepted)
Check if you have put all needed - ECA number and date, language tests nr. and dates.

Jobbank - as you say is valid.
So just do fast recheck if you have all above.
Also do not forget to check messages directly in your EE profile (it might be that PT NOI is already there).

And Ontario will not Nominate you on the spot, but they will issue a notification of interest and upon that you need to follow further instructions as stated on their website.

And there is no point limits, so you are ok with your CRS score.
 

RoyBa

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vensak said:
ok, just to make sure. Check following:
1. French first language with CBL 7+ on each skill (if you are FSW, then it will not let you to put it lower and be able to activate all.
2. English second language with CBL 6+ on each skill.
3. One year work experience within last 5 years
4. Education - what you have stated, here you seem to meet criteria. (but if you also have ECA for that other degree, you can add it as well).
5. You have either chosen all provinces an territories or Ontario (if you did it correctly, you will have Ontario data collection disclaimer written there and you need to tag it as accepted)
Check if you have put all needed - ECA number and date, language tests nr. and dates.

Jobbank - as you say is valid.
So just do fast recheck if you have all above.
Also do not forget to check messages directly in your EE profile (it might be that PT NOI is already there).

And Ontario will not Nominate you on the spot, but they will issue a notification of interest and upon that you need to follow further instructions as stated on their website.

And there is no point limits, so you are ok with your CRS score.
Dear Vensak,

I went through the application to check all the points mentioned by you.
Could you please explain your statement on FSW "if you are FSW, then it will not let you to put it lower and be able to activate all"...in my EE profile details, Federal Skilled Workerit is marked as "Met"

My TEF is score is B2 and higher (CE-C1; CO-C2; EE - B2; EO - C1), IELTS is 6 for Listening and Writing, 7.5 - Speaking and 8.5 - Reading.
I was continously employed for the last 5 years.
 

vensak

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RoyBa said:
Dear Vensak,

I went through the application to check all the points mentioned by you.
Could you please explain your statement on FSW "if you are FSW, then it will not let you to put it lower and be able to activate all"...in my EE profile details, Federal Skilled Workerit is marked as "Met"

My TEF is score is B2 and higher (CE-C1; CO-C2; EE - B2; EO - C1), IELTS is 6 for Listening and Writing, 7.5 - Speaking and 8.5 - Reading.
I was continously employed for the last 5 years.
Again just to make sure, what is your exact score for Expression Ecrite? B2. B2 can be either CBL 6 or CBL 7, that is why I ask.

What I mean is following:
In order to be allowed in pool your first language (either English or French) needs to be at certain min. level.
For FSW candidate (Federal skilled worker) the minimum required level for the first language is CBL 7 on each skill (which completely matches minimum requirements for French in the French stream).

But if all is correct you can try one more thing.

Recreate your account where French will be put from the start as a first lanuage and you can put interest for all Provinces.
 

RoyBa

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vensak said:
Again just to make sure, what is your exact score for Expression Ecrite? B2. B2 can be either CBL 6 or CBL 7, that is why I ask.

What I mean is following:
In order to be allowed in pool your first language (either English or French) needs to be at certain min. level.
For FSW candidate (Federal skilled worker) the minimum required level for the first language is CBL 7 on each skill (which completely matches minimum requirements for French in the French stream).

But if all is correct you can try one more thing.

Recreate your account where French will be put from the start as a first lanuage and you can put interest for all Provinces.

Sure, to be more exact my Expression Ecrite score was 324/450, I think it is equivalent to CBL 7.

I will follow your advice regarding recreating the account. Initially I had French as a 1st language, but on the next day I changed it to English to see if it had any impact on count of points recieved, and after few days, I returned back again to French as a first language.
 

vensak

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That changing of languages might be the issue why your account went invisible for Ontario (it might be, that they only check fresh accounts maybe every 2-3 days. in that case you switched to English when they check for it and returned to French only after your account was too old).
Try to create it again with keeping French as first language. In your case, the difference of points between those 2 shall be small (and I would even say, that you are better off point wise with French).