One year Master's - Good way to get more CRS points?

[shivendra1404]

I have been offered an admission into Master of organizational management (full-time, 30 credit hours) by Crandall University; however, I have some queries regarding the credentials it is going to offer.

In general, Master's programmes run for two academic years but it is a program that runs for only one academic year. Will it be recognized as a legitimate Master's degree? Or it is considered as a post-graduation sort of a course.

I wish to come to Canada on a study visa in order to plan my Permanent residence, and i am really worried if this course would fetch the same CRS scores as other two-year Master programmes like MBA, Msc do?

Can anyone help me with this? It seems a very good way to get more CRS with just one course if it is recognized by CIC as a Master's program.

 

[Wolfpmd3]

It will probably not give you as many points because there are some items that add points based on the length of the duration of your studies.

It is also better to do a 2-year program because you will then get a 3-year Work Permit. If you do a 1-year program you will only get a 1-year Work Permit. --> this means that unless you find a job pretty much right away you will not be able to meet the 1-year work experience in Canada, having a 3-year work permit gives you much more flexibility.

It just depends on how much time you're willing to invest. Also, as long as your University is in the DLI list and the program is recognized by IRCC it should coun as a Master's Degree for them.

 

[yashiharu]

It will probably not give you as many points because there are some items that add points based on the length of the duration of your studies.

It is also better to do a 2-year program because you will then get a 3-year Work Permit. If you do a 1-year program you will only get a 1-year Work Permit. --> this means that unless you find a job pretty much right away you will not be able to meet the 1-year work experience in Canada, having a 3-year work permit gives you much more flexibility.

It just depends on how much time you're willing to invest. Also, as long as your University is in the DLI list and the program is recognized by IRCC it should coun as a Master's Degree for them.

In my case, I am a programmer:
1 year development program, quite close to my working experience, good portfolio, should be easier to get a job.
1.5 year networking program, not close to my working experience, no experience at all, doubt on job seeking even with internship ...
Which one I should go for?

 

[shersingh]

I have been offered an admission into Master of organizational management (full-time, 30 credit hours) by Crandall University; however, I have some queries regarding the credentials it is going to offer.

In general, Master's programmes run for two academic years but it is a program that runs for only one academic year. Will it be recognized as a legitimate Master's degree? Or it is considered as a post-graduation sort of a course.

I wish to come to Canada on a study visa in order to plan my Permanent residence, and i am really worried if this course would fetch the same CRS scores as other two-year Master programmes like MBA, Msc do?

Can anyone help me with this? It seems a very good way to get more CRS with just one course if it is recognized by CIC as a Master's program.

1 year is fine for a Master's program. My course was 30 credits/ 1 year - and it worked out fine. If you can enough points just from the course it is fine, but if you need further experience in Canada of 1 year you may fall short of time as @Wolfpmd3 explained.

 

[shersingh]

In my case, I am a programmer:
1 year development program, quite close to my working experience, good portfolio, should be easier to get a job.
1.5 year networking program, not close to my working experience, no experience at all, doubt on job seeking even with internship ...
Which one I should go for?

Will you get enough points after the 1 year course? If so then go for it. You will get 1 year work permit and if you have enough points then this should be enough.

 

[yashiharu]

Will you get enough points after the 1 year course? If so then go for it. You will get 1 year work permit and if you have enough points then this should be enough.

not enough, I have to reach B2 in French ... for EE.

Sorry I didn't mention that I am going for pnp.
Get a study-related job for 6 mths is perfectly fulfilled to the requirement.
The problem is which risk I should take?
longer job-seeking period with weaker portfolio VS shorter job-seeking period with stronger portfolio

 

[shivendra1404]

It will probably not give you as many points because there are some items that add points based on the length of the duration of your studies.

It is also better to do a 2-year program because you will then get a 3-year Work Permit. If you do a 1-year program you will only get a 1-year Work Permit. --> this means that unless you find a job pretty much right away you will not be able to meet the 1-year work experience in Canada, having a 3-year work permit gives you much more flexibility.

It just depends on how much time you're willing to invest. Also, as long as your University is in the DLI list and the program is recognized by IRCC it should coun as a Master's Degree for them.

That is what I am upto. I have foreign work experience in Banking and finance for more than 5 years and my current CRS is just 397. I am planning the PR like this -

1. Complete a Masters (if this 1 yr course fetches Master credentials fron CIC).
2. Get post graduate work permit of 1 yr and work in the related field.

If everything goes as planned my CRS after 2 years will be 507. I think thats a safe score.

The only problem I see here is to get a job in the related field. Because your job has to be in related field and atleast for 12 months. After completion of the course if i miss out on getting the job just by 1 or 2 months i won't get the points for canadian work experience and my CRS would be only 417.

Your suggestion is undoubtedly a wise choice to try getting 3 yr pgwp but I am on a strict budget and i just can't afford a two year course.

What i can do is -
1. Study masters (preferably one year as i got offered for)
2. In case i don't get a job prior to the completion of the course, better apply for another course (preferably short courses like 12-16 months).

By this, i will get 1.4 to 1.6 years work permit. Its a good amount of time to find a job and be there for 12 months.

But again i have queries for this -
Will i have to again purchase a GIC account for $10000, or get my financials check to extend my stay as an international student.
Or its just an extenion application where i will have to show that i have registered myself with some college/university and no financial check is required.

I am worried about the cost it may involve.

 

[shivendra1404]

1 year is fine for a Master's program. My course was 30 credits/ 1 year - and it worked out fine. If you can enough points just from the course it is fine, but if you need further experience in Canada of 1 year you may fall short of time as @Wolfpmd3 explained.

exactly.

what if i pick up a short duration course after my graduation. Just to extend my pgwp for 4- 6 months as work permit is given on the basis of the duration of your studies. All i have to care about is being in a relevant job for atleast one year --> to get canadian work experience. So if i get 4-6 months additional work permit i can pretty good manage finding a job after my graduation. So opting for a course that runs for a short while, say 4-6 months would be a correct move.

but again it raises two queries -
1. Are there any such short courses available that run for 12-16 weeks and are also eligible to get a PGWP if joined with the previous study duration?
2. Will i again need to go through the same process of purchasing a GIC account for $10000 and prove my financial credentials. That would be tough for me as I have limited funds, and $10000 would just not be manageable for me.

can you suggest something on this? I would appreciate if @Wolfpmd3 you also can share your views on this. Thank you in advance for your time and assistance guys.

 

[yashiharu]

exactly.

what if i pick up a short duration course after my graduation. Just to extend my pgwp for 4- 6 months as work permit is given on the basis of the duration of your studies. All i have to care about is being in a relevant job for atleast one year --> to get canadian work experience. So if i get 4-6 months additional work permit i can pretty good manage finding a job after my graduation. So opting for a course that runs for a short while, say 4-6 months would be a correct move.

but again it raises two queries -
1. Are there any such short courses available that run for 12-16 weeks and are also eligible to get a PGWP if joined with the previous study duration?
2. Will i again need to go through the same process of purchasing a GIC account for $10000 and prove my financial credentials. That would be tough for me as I have limited funds, and $10000 would just not be manageable for me.

can you suggest something on this? I would appreciate if @Wolfpmd3 you also can share your views on this. Thank you in advance for your time and assistance guys.

1. I think you have to apply PgD course, which if full-time on campus, would be 8 months at least.
2. It will be not easy to apply for another study permit as the officer will surely challenge your intention to stay ... because of Master > PgD seems not that logic

 

[Wolfpmd3]

exactly.

what if i pick up a short duration course after my graduation. Just to extend my pgwp for 4- 6 months as work permit is given on the basis of the duration of your studies. All i have to care about is being in a relevant job for atleast one year --> to get canadian work experience. So if i get 4-6 months additional work permit i can pretty good manage finding a job after my graduation. So opting for a course that runs for a short while, say 4-6 months would be a correct move.

but again it raises two queries -
1. Are there any such short courses available that run for 12-16 weeks and are also eligible to get a PGWP if joined with the previous study duration?
2. Will i again need to go through the same process of purchasing a GIC account for $10000 and prove my financial credentials. That would be tough for me as I have limited funds, and $10000 would just not be manageable for me.

can you suggest something on this? I would appreciate if @Wolfpmd3 you also can share your views on this. Thank you in advance for your time and assistance guys.

Another option you have is to look for a program elsewhere. May I ask where and whats the approximate cost of the program you are planning to attend?

Universities such as Manitoba or Saskatchewan have much lower rates for graduate students. Also, applying for a thesis-based program is always much cheaper than a course-based program. There are definitely options out there.

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/publications-manuals/operational-bulletins-manuals/temporary-residents/study-permits/post-graduation-work-permit-program.html
If you read the link above, even you might be able to start working and looking for a job before getting your PGWP which should buy you some additional time.

Also, remember the 1-year work experience does not necessarily have to be in your field or related to your program of study, as long as it falls under an eligible NOC it can be pretty much anything. You could indeed secure any job while studying and then just continue to work in it once your program has finished,

 

[AskBD]

Also, remember the 1-year work experience does not necessarily have to be in your field or related to your program of study, as long as it falls under an eligible NOC it can be pretty much anything. You could indeed secure any job while studying and then just continue to work in it once your program has finished,

Are you sure about that? Cause in the below link of MPNP international graduate scheme it says "and find long-term employment in Manitoba in an in-demand occupation consistent with their training. If you meet these conditions, you will be eligible to apply to the MPNP immediately after graduating and obtaining the job offer."

I think this condiotin of consistent with their training was not there before but recently added..


https://www.immigratemanitoba.com/immigrate-to-manitoba/international-education/#1

 

[Wolfpmd3]

Are you sure about that? Cause in the below link of MPNP international graduate scheme it says "and find long-term employment in Manitoba in an in-demand occupation consistent with their training. If you meet these conditions, you will be eligible to apply to the MPNP immediately after graduating and obtaining the job offer."

I think this condiotin of consistent with their training was not there before but recently added..


https://www.immigratemanitoba.com/immigrate-to-manitoba/international-education/#1

Yes, completely sure.

However, what you're talking about is to obtain a Provincial Nomination from Manitoba. Each province when they want to nominate candidates have their own requirements.

When talking about CEC class, however, there are no requirements for the 1 year experience besides being skilled (based on NOC). There are no requirements in terms of the relationship between the field of your studies and the work experience.

I am 100% certain about this. Just check IRCC's webpage, such requirement does not exist anywhere. This also makes sense because there are no education requirements for CEC, education will help you increase your score, for sure, but is not a requirement. Therefore, the link between education and work experience cannot be a requirement.

See this from IRCC:
Taken from: https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/express-entry/eligibility/canadian-experience-class.html

• have at least 1 year of skilled work experience in Canada, in the last 3 years before you apply. The work experience must be:
  • full-time or
  • an equal amount in part-time
• have gained your work experience by working in Canada legally

According to the Canadian National Occupational Classification, skilled work experience means:

• managerial jobs (skill level 0)
• professional jobs (skill type A)
• technical jobs and skilled trades (skill type B)

Your work experience can be in 1 or more NOC 0, A or B jobs.
You must show that you performed the duties set out in the lead statement of the occupational description in the National Occupational Classification. This includes all the essential duties and most of the main duties listed.