One job experience fails

[aurelero]

Hello,

I worked for 3 different companies under the same NOC.
The 1st for 5 years, the 2nd for 5 years too and the 3rd one for only 3 months.
I have experience letters for all 3 and register all the 3 work experiences.
Let say, for the e-APR, the officer accepts all the experiences excepting the 1st one which he did not accept for some reason. Will my case be rejected or the 2nd experience is enough to support my CRS points?
Thank you in advance,
A.

 

[aurelero]

bump

In other words. If I register one job experience that is enough to get all the points (3 years), is it risky to register a second job experience?
I am asking this because I have a doubt on the second one as the job description matches the NOC but it might be too short.

 

[Vitesze]

Depends on the reason for rejection.

Normally, if they reject work experience you simply don't get points for those years and that's it. So for your case, if they reject Job #1, but accept Job #2 and #3, you receive credit for 5 years of work experience (+3 months). They will re-calculate your CRS and if it drops below the threshold score at the time of ITA, your application will be rejected. In addition, if having some of your work experience invalidated means you don't meet the requirements for a criteria (e.g. say you apply through CEC and your Canadian experience is rejected) then that also automatically will lead to rejection. In all these cases, you can re-apply and fix your work experience documentation.

If they suspect things like fraud, fake jobs, deliberately cheating the system with wrong NOC codes etc. it is a more serious matter and will lead not just to rejection, but possibly permanent exclusion from immigration to Canada.

 

[Shahanastar]

bump

In other words. If I register one job experience that is enough to get all the points (3 years), is it risky to register a second job experience?
I am asking this because I have a doubt on the second one as the job description matches the NOC but it might be too short.

As far as CRS is concerned you wouldn’t lose points for one experience being invalidated as you get points for maximum 3 years. So simply choose the experience where you are confident of the NOC match and state other experiences in personal history. It’s better to exclude experience where you’re performing lesser number of duties from what’s stated in the NOC. If your experience is genuine, you don’t need to worry about permanent exclusion at all.

 

[aurelero]

Thank you so much.
In other words, if a job offer does not meet the requirements and leads to rejection, I will still be able to correct and reapply right away.
So as Shahanastar said, first I will apply with the experience I am the most confident with.

 

[Shahanastar]

Thank you so much.
In other words, if a job offer does not meet the requirements and leads to rejection, I will still be able to correct and reapply right away.
So as Shahanastar said, first I will apply with the experience I am the most confident with.

Don’t take a chance. Make sure you choose the right NOC and that your reference letter matches substantially with the description of duties for that NOC. You will be fine. Good luck

 

[baxa1981]

As far as CRS is concerned you wouldn’t lose points for one experience being invalidated as you get points for maximum 3 years. So simply choose the experience where you are confident of the NOC match and state other experiences in personal history. It’s better to exclude experience where you’re performing lesser number of duties from what’s stated in the NOC. If your experience is genuine, you don’t need to worry about permanent exclusion at all.

On the other hand, he will have more chances if he submits for both, if one fails, the other job might get accepted.

 

[Vitesze]

There isn't really a reason not to include previous work experience, unless you're absolutely sure either:
(a) You will never receive points for it (e.g. NOC-C or D job for certain streams).
(b) You can't obtain the appropriate documentation for it (even then, there's ways around this)
(c) It wasn't a legitimate job (e.g. less than minimum wage, illegal business practices)

If none of these are the case, it never hurts to include it in your application. The worst-case scenario is that they will reject said experience and you won't get the extra CRS pts.

 

[Shahanastar]

On the other hand, he will have more chances if he submits for both, if one fails, the other job might get accepted.

That’s true. It’s just that the OP feels the job duties are very few to match with the NOC description. That’s why this can be used in personal history to claim FSW points. There’s no harm to include this in work history though the CRS points are already maxed out with the other job.

 

[aurelero]

There isn't really a reason not to include previous work experience, unless you're absolutely sure either:
(a) You will never receive points for it (e.g. NOC-C or D job for certain streams).
(b) You can't obtain the appropriate documentation for it (even then, there's ways around this)
(c) It wasn't a legitimate job (e.g. less than minimum wage, illegal business practices)

If none of these are the case, it never hurts to include it in your application. The worst-case scenario is that they will reject said experience and you won't get the extra CRS pts.

For instance I have a doubt with that description of my 3 months experience:
"his main duties and responsibilities were software code implementation as well as maintenance and testing in an agile environment"

It matches perfectly NOC 2174 (http://noc.esdc.gc.ca/English/noc/Profile.aspx?val=2&val1=2174&ver=16) but the officer might think it's way too short.