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On post grad workpermit with permanent job offer

Canadian Govt. should do some favour to international students like US. In US,for H1B visas for Masters students have separate quota

H-1B Visa Cap Basics

Regular Cap: This is loosely referred as general quota/cap or regular quota or non-advanced degree quota/cap. The annual cap is set as 65,000.

Advanced Degree Cap: This is loosely referred as Masters' quota/cap. The annual cap is set as 20,000.


The goal of most International students after they graduate is to remain in the USA to gain work experience relevent to their degree studies. The H1B visa program is designed for and made available to F1 students to achieve this goal. The USCIS even introduced a seperate H1B quota (allocation of H1B visas) for International students.

there is an exemption from the 65,000 annual quota that is available to the first 20,000 H1B petitions filed each fiscal year for beneficiaries who have been granted masters' or higher degrees by U.S. institutions of higher education. In order to be considered for this exemption, petitioning employers must specifically request consideration under the advanced-degree exemption.
 
First of all, use logic; don't get emotional and say that the government owes you or you are special. In truth the government made a provision for people with Canadian Experience. You have added bonus for it. So even with a year of experience you will have +40 points for CEC.

Now all CEC applicants take a score test and see what your EE score is. Now do the test again as a professional with similar traits but no canadian experience. See the point difference. In a year there are around 12000 CEC applicants. They increased this year's cap to 21000. So more CEC will be taken in. Also if your score is always going to be higher than people applying from outside then you will always get picked because the FSW quota also has to be filled right?

LMIA for PGWP jobs are impossible unless you are in a niche industry like mining or metallurgy or some medical science. There are plenty of accountants, software engineers and business graudates in Canada for your LMIA to be positive.

Just wait for a couple of months are you yourself will know there was nothing to worry about.

As for that marcus dude, let him be; hes just an internet troll. 3-5 years from now we will have forgotted this website because we will have our PRs where as this loser will still be here trolling everyone.
 
praneet87 said:
First of all, use logic; don't get emotional and say that the government owes you or you are special. In truth the government made a provision for people with Canadian Experience. You have added bonus for it. So even with a year of experience you will have +40 points for CEC.

Now all CEC applicants take a score test and see what your EE score is. Now do the test again as a professional with similar traits but no canadian experience. See the point difference. In a year there are around 12000 CEC applicants. They increased this year's cap to 21000. So more CEC will be taken in. Also if your score is always going to be higher than people applying from outside then you will always get picked because the FSW quota also has to be filled right?

LMIA for PGWP jobs are impossible unless you are in a niche industry like mining or metallurgy or some medical science. There are plenty of accountants, software engineers and business graudates in Canada for your LMIA to be positive.

Just wait for a couple of months are you yourself will know there was nothing to worry about.

As for that marcus dude, let him be; hes just an internet troll. 3-5 years from now we will have forgotted this website because we will have our PRs where as this loser will still be here trolling everyone.
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LMIA for pgwp point sounds logical. But, lets see what happens.
Good luck to all
 
praneet87 said:
First of all, use logic; don't get emotional and say that the government owes you or you are special. In truth the government made a provision for people with Canadian Experience. You have added bonus for it. So even with a year of experience you will have +40 points for CEC.

Now all CEC applicants take a score test and see what your EE score is. Now do the test again as a professional with similar traits but no canadian experience. See the point difference. In a year there are around 12000 CEC applicants. They increased this year's cap to 21000. So more CEC will be taken in. Also if your score is always going to be higher than people applying from outside then you will always get picked because the FSW quota also has to be filled right?

LMIA for PGWP jobs are impossible unless you are in a niche industry like mining or metallurgy or some medical science. There are plenty of accountants, software engineers and business graudates in Canada for your LMIA to be positive.

Just wait for a couple of months are you yourself will know there was nothing to worry about.

As for that marcus dude, let him be; hes just an internet troll. 3-5 years from now we will have forgotted this website because we will have our PRs where as this loser will still be here trolling everyone.
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I can't agree more.
 
as on the same boat, i feel LMIA for an open work permit is really unfair. Not being emotional, never think about International gradutes have more priority than other catagories. I myself work in an international employment business, my main job is helping ppl from outside of Canada get a LMIA and then apply for their work permit. LMIA is usually 2 years or one year only, with your job title and employer on your work permit which is so, so, so hard to change a job no matter how your employer treat you. I felt lucky more than once that i am holding a PGWP other than a LIMITED ONE under LMIA.
But that is not the main thing, it is about the directions we choose from the beginning. Don't we have the chance from the beginning to get a SO CALLED LMIA? we compared, and all of us consider an Open work permit is better than a LIMITED one, 3 years, any employer, Canada education Canada experience which when we applied for a school the government told us so clearly those are more important.
And now the government just said, a positive LMIA gain 600 points more! What the hell! Dear government, you want us to give up our open work permit and apply for a limited one instead? You want us rely on our employer more than before no matter how we hate our employer we still cannot change a job?
Your citizens shouted: send the stupid foreign workers back home, they robbed our job oppotunities, they made us paid less. I really feel sad to read those, feel sad about you did to us. As an immigration country, Canada, you are not as good as u think.
 
Any one know if CEC will have different draw ? or they will be in the same pool and will considered with others in the pool like FSW ?
 
curious_123 said:
Any one know if CEC will have different draw ? or they will be in the same pool and will considered with others in the pool like FSW ?
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The initial draw will be for everyone in the pool, CIC (based on their research) expects in a large pool draws should be close to their expectation. They also have authority to do a program-specific draw if targets are not met. Note they have full control of number of ITAs issues in each draw.
 
do people with job offers (currently working) with no LMIA have to register on job bank?

i have a job but it is not LMIA approved as i am on PGWP.
 
malik786 said:
do people with job offers (currently working) with no LMIA have to register on job bank?

i have a job but it is not LMIA approved as i am on PGWP.
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Yes, you are required to register in Job bank if you do not have a Positive LMIA.
 
This is what happens when you hand out open work permits like candy. People who hold them start thinking they're already permanent here, and they forget about expiration dates. Foreign students are notorious for this (and for holding the delusion in their heads that they're soo much brighter than native students and that the host country is lucky to have them).

Three-year open work permits is insane, I don't care what name you give it (Post grad work permit or otherwise). I like the US treatment of foreign students at the end of their studies. You get a 12-month optional practical training and that's it. The H1B is not an open work permit and it's not automatically available to any graduating foreign student. You're comparing chickens and donkeys.

Canada is very good at copying immigration practices of countries it considers "peer" countries. The problem is it only copies the bad parts, so it becomes the lowest common denominator of the peer group.

The title of this thread "On post grad workpermit with permanent job offer" is absurd. Employers cannot make a permanent job offer to someone who only has temporary permission to remain and work in the country. Any such offer is contingent upon being approved for permanent residence.
 
marcus66502 said:
This is what happens when you hand out open work permits like candy. People who hold them start thinking they're already permanent here, and they forget about expiration dates. Foreign students are notorious for this (and for holding the delusion in their heads that they're soo much brighter than native students and that the host country is lucky to have them).

Three-year open work permits is insane, I don't care what name you give it (Post grad work permit or otherwise). I like the US treatment of foreign students at the end of their studies. You get a 12-month optional practical training and that's it. The H1B is not an open work permit and it's not automatically available to any graduating foreign student. You're comparing chickens and donkeys.

Canada is very good at copying immigration practices of countries it considers "peer" countries. The problem is it only copies the bad parts, so it becomes the lowest common denominator of the peer group.

The title of this thread "On post grad workpermit with permanent job offer" is absurd. Employers cannot make a permanent job offer to someone who only has temporary permission to remain and work in the country. Any such offer is contingent upon being approved for permanent residence.
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haha ! So how should the country treat foreign students? Send them back? And how should the country handle Open Work Permits? Why are you so bitter? Did you lose a job to an immigrant? Like in all honesty - I can't understand your thinking one bit. You say you got your permanent residency 3 years ago and still haven't even received your passport but you hate on all immigrants like you've lost your job to immigrants. You are one funny chap. Oh and btw filed for my PNP :) so I am getting my PR. Your one prediction of me playing the lottery is already wrong.
 
marcus66502 said:
This is what happens when you hand out open work permits like candy. People who hold them start thinking they're already permanent here, and they forget about expiration dates. Foreign students are notorious for this (and for holding the delusion in their heads that they're soo much brighter than native students and that the host country is lucky to have them).

Three-year open work permits is insane, I don't care what name you give it (Post grad work permit or otherwise). I like the US treatment of foreign students at the end of their studies. You get a 12-month optional practical training and that's it. The H1B is not an open work permit and it's not automatically available to any graduating foreign student. You're comparing chickens and donkeys.

Canada is very good at copying immigration practices of countries it considers "peer" countries. The problem is it only copies the bad parts, so it becomes the lowest common denominator of the peer group.

The title of this thread "On post grad workpermit with permanent job offer" is absurd. Employers cannot make a permanent job offer to someone who only has temporary permission to remain and work in the country. Any such offer is contingent upon being approved for permanent residence.
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Welcome back from the vacation :)
 
hey can we just ignore the trolls and let it sink?

He's like those people who go to public transport forum or cycling forum and post "Bussing is for the weak" and "Cyclists, go home" everywhere.
 
Hi All, I found this thread and have a few questions for the intended work section in EE profile. I am a recent graduate with PGWP application in progress and a job offer with joining in Mar 2019. I have the following questions:
1. Could you please advise if I am eligible to add this as my intended work under work history?
2. Can I say my yes for the section asking for valid work permit even though my PGWP application is in progress?
3. Will my job offer fall under LMIA exempt category?

Thank you for your guidance in advance.
 
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