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robertbola

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hi my spouse and I were at families tonight...and they asked what would happen if MY common law sponsor caught me (the immigrant) in bed with another woman--- would she be able to cancel my PR? We both don't really know....not that it will ever happen as I only have eyes for her :)!!!

Just wanted to know since it was brought up today.
 

Al.Abed

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Aug 27, 2009
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once you have your PR i dont think they interfere with your relationship, as long as your sponsor is supporting you for 3 years. even if you break up, ur sponsor has to support you for 3 years.

so go ahead and sleep with as many women as you want AFTER you get your PR ;) ;) hahaha kidding.
 

Misria

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Naughty Al. Abed.. No but Robertbola once you get your PR it cannot be cancel. You could even divorce in the airport once you arrive. So this means when you got your PR in your hand, there is no return.
 

Leon

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Even if you completely fooled your spouse, you were never in love with your spouse, you only used your spouse to get the PR, it's possible that you would get away with it. Somebody here told the story of a wife who was being sponsored outland not even telling her husband that she got the PR and landed. He found that out through the CIC website. He later saw her around town with another man and later she went and claimed welfare and he had to pay. The poster who told that story had sponsored his wife and she left him a month after getting PR. Even in cases like that, when the victim goes to immigration or the police, they just say, well, you convinced us it was a real relationship, now you want to tell us that it wasn't?

There was one woman on here who said she got her ex-husband deported, actually not because he left her but because when going through his PR application with a fine tooth comb, she found that he'd lied about his activities for 2 months of his life. Her being very vigilant about this as well as working for immigration probably helped.

There have also been some cases where an investigation is called. I remember one woman on here who'd broken up with her sponsor and he had immigration somehow start an investigation on her but she never came back to say what happened with that.
 

rjessome

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Misria said:
Naughty Al. Abed.. No but Robertbola once you get your PR it cannot be cancel. You could even divorce in the airport once you arrive. So this means when you got your PR in your hand, there is no return.
So NOT true. Divorce in the airport? LOL! And you are forgetting about other issues. If someone commits a crime before landing that would make them criminally inadmissible and CIC or CBSA found out about it, they are not going to be allowed to land.

First, having a PR VISA and actually "landing" are two different things. According to the Act, you are not a PR until you "land" so if you got divorced from your sponsor before you landed and the sponsor sent this proof to CBSA, they would not allow you to "land" because you wouldn't be a member of the family class.

Now Leon is absolutely right in that if you duped a sponsor into a marriage or relationship of convenience, landed and then left, you could probably get away with it. That's not what it says in the Act because it is illegal according to the Act and you are guilty of misrepresentation, a criminal offence under the Immigration Act. However, nobody wants to be accountable for it. CBSA will pass the buck to CIC who will pass it to the RCMP who will pass it to CBSA and so on and so on. But within the last year there has been a lot of negative press in Canada about exactly this topic and CIC is under a lot of pressure to do something about it. They do have a fraud investigation department for this but it's understaffed and overworked with too many complaints. There are several investigations ongoing right now and some folks have had their PR revoked and been deported. There is also a group gaining more and more lobbying power in the government to prevent this type of thing. But there is no easy answer to it. CIC doesn't want to get into your "bedroom". There are too many variables. What if a couple broke up one year after landing and the sponsor shouted "immigration fraud!" Probably totally bogus claim of fraud because more than likely they broke up for the normal reasons but hell hath no fury like a sponsor scorned! Then you are mixing family law issues with immigration law and getting into a "he said, she said" ordeal. However, with more and more duped sponsors making tons of noise about this, it could be a greater issue in the future. You know, the squeaky wheel gets the grease!
 

Leon

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Yes, you could also have situations where the sponsor is abusive to the sponsored spouse holding it over their head that they could at any point shout immigration fraud and get their PR removed. Then if you make allowances for abuse, you will get the fraudsters shouting abuse even if there is none. It's really hard to deal with.