October 11th 2017 - Citizenship Applicants under 3/5 rule
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Nothing it was just a phone call sounds to be from an old indian man working with CIC .. I dont know why me got a phone call before sending the mail .. I have residential address and mailing address so he was asking me whether to send the mail to which address which is obvious the mailing address !! I asked him if asking for the finger prints means the test is soon he said I dont know .. I said I am just asking to be ready for the exam .. I asked if I can do the finger prints before getting the mail to save time he said you can't do the finger prints without actually having the mail with you .. cause you ll need it while doing the finger prints as it tells you where to go ..
Haven't heard of anyone getting a call for FP request. Sounds odd to me.
-Did you actually get the request in the mail yet ?
-Did the caller know any details about your application like your personal details, UCI etc ? I hope you didn't provide any personal information to him
-What does your ECAS show ? Does it indicate some correspondence was mailed out to you ?
If your ECAS doesn't indicate anything to that effect, and if you haven't received it in the mail, I would suggest that you report the call to IRCC. There is a lot of fraud going on these days.
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He didnt provide my UCI but he knew my name and my residential address and my mailing address and he was asking me to send the mail to which address ..
I asked him if I can call this phone number if I needed any inquiry for example .. he said no .. I asked which number I use then for calling ? he provided me with another number .. sounds like he was calling from his own number !! strange isnt it ? .. I checked my ecas before the call by few minutes and after the call by hours a line was added about we sent you correspondence .....ect ..
I know it sounds strange ..that is why I was asking
I am still waiting for the mail to arrive
Hmm, if your ECAS updated to indicate that some correspondence was sent out, then maybe the call was legit. It is odd though. You could still call IRCC in the morning to confirm, for peace of mind.
People have received phone calls about their oath and test invites in the past. Maybe this was part of it.
I'll wait cause I think it is legit .. I asked him if the test is soon he didnt give me any info he said I dont know .. I hope it is part of it as you said ..
the new application has lots of contacts and phone numbers and addresses .. I think they use calls now including calling jobs and people where you lived before ..
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Summary of October 2017 applicants (by Date Delivered) as per Google spreadsheet:
Summary of October 2017 applicants (by Visa Office) as per Google spreadsheet. Visa office is selected based on best approximation to Location:- Regina visa office is added after a split from Saskatoon visa office.
Weekly Summary of October 2017 applicants as per Google spreadsheet:
| Date | #Total | #AOR | #Awaiting AOR | #IP | %IP | #Test Invite | % Test Invite | #Test Held | #DM | #Oath Invite | #Oath Held |
| 2-Oct-17 | 4 | 4 | - | 4 | 100.0% | 3 | 75.0% | 3 | 1 | - | - |
| 3-Oct-17 | 2 | 2 | - | 2 | 100.0% | 2 | 100.0% | 2 | 2 | - | - |
| 4-Oct-17 | 1 | 1 | - | 1 | 100.0% | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| 5-Oct-17 | 2 | 2 | - | 2 | 100.0% | 1 | 50.0% | - | - | - | - |
| 6-Oct-17 | 7 | 7 | - | 6 | 85.7% | 4 | 57.1% | 3 | 2 | 1 | - |
| 10-Oct-17 | 7 | 7 | - | 6 | 85.7% | 2 | 28.6% | 2 | 1 | - | - |
| 12-Oct-17 | 22 | 22 | - | 20 | 90.9% | 12 | 54.5% | 7 | 2 | 1 | - |
| 13-Oct-17 | 97 | 95 | 2 | 84 | 86.6% | 36 | 37.1% | 17 | 9 | 3 | 1 |
| 16-Oct-17 | 294 | 284 | 10 | 241 | 82.0% | 117 | 39.8% | 50 | 26 | 11 | 2 |
| 17-Oct-17 | 51 | 49 | 2 | 40 | 78.4% | 12 | 23.5% | 5 | 3 | 1 | - |
| 18-Oct-17 | 58 | 56 | 2 | 46 | 79.3% | 10 | 17.2% | 1 | 1 | - | - |
| 19-Oct-17 | 99 | 91 | 8 | 68 | 68.7% | 22 | 22.2% | 12 | 5 | - | - |
| 20-Oct-17 | 61 | 57 | 4 | 45 | 73.8% | 14 | 23.0% | 4 | 1 | - | - |
| 23-Oct-17 | 46 | 41 | 5 | 36 | 78.3% | 8 | 17.4% | 2 | - | 1 | - |
| 24-Oct-17 | 6 | 5 | 1 | 4 | 66.7% | 1 | 16.7% | 1 | - | - | - |
| 25-Oct-17 | 23 | 20 | 3 | 14 | 60.9% | 3 | 13.0% | - | - | - | - |
| 26-Oct-17 | 30 | 28 | 2 | 25 | 83.3% | 3 | 10.0% | - | - | - | - |
| 27-Oct-17 | 22 | 21 | 1 | 15 | 68.2% | 1 | 4.5% | 1 | 1 | - | - |
| 30-Oct-17 | 19 | 17 | 2 | 13 | 68.4% | 2 | 10.5% | 1 | 1 | - | - |
| 31-Oct-17 | 9 | 8 | 1 | 4 | 44.4% | 1 | 11.1% | - | - | - | - |
| Total | 860 | 817 | 43 | 676 | 78.6% | 254 | 29.5% | 111 | 55 | 18 | 3 |
| Visa Office | # Total | # AOR | # IP | % IP | # Test Invite | % Test Invite | # Test Held | # DM | # Oath Invite | # Oath Held |
| Blank | 12 | 9 | 4 | 33.3% | 1 | 8.3% | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 |
| Calgary | 111 | 105 | 86 | 77.5% | 51 | 45.9% | 14 | 6 | 7 | - |
| Edmonton | 56 | 50 | 44 | 78.6% | 21 | 37.5% | 12 | 7 | 2 | 1 |
| Fredericton | 5 | 4 | 3 | 60.0% | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Halifax | 8 | 8 | 7 | 87.5% | 6 | 75.0% | 3 | - | - | - |
| Hamilton | 25 | 22 | 20 | 80.0% | 7 | 28.0% | 2 | 1 | - | - |
| Kitchener | 24 | 23 | 19 | 79.2% | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| London | 12 | 11 | 10 | 83.3% | 2 | 16.7% | - | - | - | - |
| Mississauga | 78 | 76 | 65 | 83.3% | 7 | 9.0% | 3 | 1 | - | - |
| Montreal | 114 | 107 | 93 | 81.6% | 42 | 36.8% | 22 | 11 | 2 | - |
| Niagara Falls | 3 | 3 | 3 | 100.0% | 3 | 100.0% | 1 | - | - | - |
| Ottawa | 58 | 57 | 51 | 87.9% | 36 | 62.1% | 15 | 7 | 2 | - |
| Regina | 15 | 15 | 12 | 80.0% | 7 | 46.7% | - | - | - | - |
| Saskatoon | 20 | 19 | 14 | 70.0% | 6 | 30.0% | 3 | 2 | 2 | - |
| Scarborough | 36 | 34 | 30 | 83.3% | 11 | 30.6% | 10 | 7 | - | - |
| St. John's | 6 | 6 | 5 | 83.3% | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Surrey | 5 | 5 | 3 | 60.0% | 1 | 20.0% | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 |
| Toronto | 149 | 143 | 112 | 75.2% | 22 | 14.8% | 15 | 6 | - | - |
| Vancouver | 102 | 100 | 78 | 76.5% | 27 | 26.5% | 7 | 3 | 1 | - |
| Windsor | 8 | 8 | 7 | 87.5% | 1 | 12.5% | - | - | - | - |
| Winnipeg | 13 | 12 | 10 | 76.9% | 3 | 23.1% | 2 | 2 | - | - |
| Total | 860 | 817 | 676 | 78.6% | 254 | 29.5% | 111 | 55 | 18 | 3 |
| Week of (Mon-Sun) | # AOR | # IP | # Test Invite | # Test Held | # DM | # Oath Invite | # Oath Held |
| Oct 16 - Oct 22 | 1 | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Oct 23 - Oct 29 | 14 | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Oct 30 - Nov 05 | 69 | 1 | - | - | - | - | - |
| Nov 06 - Nov 12 | 88 | 2 | - | - | - | - | - |
| Nov 13 - Nov 19 | 125 | 28 | - | - | - | - | - |
| Nov 20 - Nov 26 | 184 | 60 | - | - | - | - | - |
| Nov 27 - Dec 03 | 123 | 68 | - | - | - | - | - |
| Dec 04 - Dec 10 | 85 | 106 | 4 | - | - | - | - |
| Dec 11 - Dec 17 | 47 | 109 | 4 | - | - | - | - |
| Dec 18 - Dec 24 | 15 | 60 | 12 | - | - | - | - |
| Dec 25 - Dec 31 | 8 | 33 | 15 | - | - | - | - |
| Jan 01 - Jan 07 | 20 | 64 | 15 | - | - | - | - |
| Jan 08 - Jan 14 | 7 | 72 | 60 | 8 | 3 | 3 | - |
| Jan 15 - Jan 21 | 6 | 35 | 44 | 10 | 6 | - | - |
| Jan 22 - Jan 28 | 8 | 25 | 53 | 29 | 16 | 3 | - |
| Jan 29 - Feb 04 | 16 | 9 | 29 | 46 | 24 | 7 | 1 |
| Feb 05 - Feb 11 | 1 | 4 | 18 | 18 | 6 | 5 | 2 |
| Total | 817 | 676 | 254 | 111 | 55 | 18 | 3 |
well a line was added in my Ecas hours after the call saying we sent you correspondence ..ect .. he didnt ask about any money .. this was 1st of february he said wait 5-10 business days for the mail to arrive .. I didnt provide any more details about myself other than which address to send the mail to .. and he didnt ask for any money .. I dont know man .. since the ecas changed after the call I think it is legit .. I ll wait 2 more days for the mail if not getting any will call .. that is the number he provided me to call for inquiry 18882422100
A friend of mine got a call from cic. they asked him a few questions regarding the information he had forgotten to include in his application.
I am not sure. I do not critique the spreadsheets. Moreover, what does "many" mean? At least 40,000 new citizenship applications were made in October 2017 alone, and I believe there have been well over 100,000 new applications since the new 3/5 rules took effect in October. I have identified 22 forum participants reporting PPQ-QAE (a procedure I am following and offering ongoing observations about in the topic titled "RQ versus Physical Presence Questionnaires, including CIT 0205"), but not all those are applications made since the change in rules. Some of these have reported receiving "RQ" but the content of their posts indicate they actually received the PPQ-QAE (including the questionnaire CIT 0205) and NOT RQ (CIT 0171).
In contrast, off the top of my head I can only think of a few forum participants who in the last six or so months have reported RQ which is clearly the CIT 0171 version, and as I recall these are (as I previously suggested) not pre-test RQ. Nonetheless, as I said in the post your query addresses, my sense is that IRCC still issues some pre-test RQ, which would be based on screening applications for risk indicators at CPC-Sydney prior to the referral to the local office (I further added that I doubted the timeline for this was "consistently less than 3 weeks").
The discussion in the topic titled "RQ versus Physical Presence Questionnaires, including CIT 0205" is actually intended to follow both RQ and the PPQ process, but it has been dominated by PPQ because that is what forum participants (so far as I have been able to follow) are reporting. Thus, if some of those who applied for citizenship since the changes (October 11, 2017) have reported receiving RQ, especially pre-test RQ in particular, I would appreciate seeing posts and links in the the topic titled "RQ versus Physical Presence Questionnaires, including CIT 0205" to assist the forum in following reports about these similar procedures. In particular, I would be especially interested to see posts by anyone recently reporting pre-test RQ rather than the PPQ-QAE . . . it would be helpful to confirm that the pre-test RQ process continues.
I do not follow the spreadsheets much. I know they are popular here and many vest quite a lot of interest if not faith in them. I do not. At times, and perhaps these last few months are an example, they are active enough and kept current enough to offer some useful albeit very general information. Over the course of years, much of the time participation tends to fluctuate and wane, and the reliability of information in the spreadsheets is sporadic, and even at peak participation the sample size and representation is insufficient to support substantive or statistical inferences or conclusions. I do not dismiss them altogether. They can be helpful in rather narrow respects. For example, October applicants can look at the spreadsheets and recognize not every one has received AOR or had their application returned yet, so for those who applied in October and have not yet gotten AOR, for example, there is no reason to panic and go chasing unnecessary inquiries to IRCC (albeit more than a few have, some making a second application for example, some submitting ATIP requests, many unnecessarily telephoning the IRCC call centre).
It may warrant noting that between May 2012 and through 2013 (declining significantly in the latter part of 2013), yes, very much yes, the overwhelming majority of RQs issued in that period were pre-test RQs. That was the OB 407 implementation debacle. In the second half of 2012 in particular, the percentage of applicants issued pre-test RQ jumped higher than 25% for a number of months. The system nearly crashed.
In any event, if you can quote reports about pre-test RQ issued in the last four months, please visit and cite and link those in the topic titled "RQ versus Physical Presence Questionnaires, including CIT 0205," and that would be appreciated.
I'm one of the many Mississauga - Brampton applicants whose application has been in "In Process" since Nov (Nov 24th). Hoping to get test invite soon.
Will CIC call centre be able to tell me which office is processing my application? I'm guessing it is Mississauga as I'm from Brampton.
Will CIC call centre be able to tell me which office is processing my application? I'm guessing it is Mississauga as I'm from Brampton.
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we have same time line , Montreal too . your IP a month earlier than mine . how come you still didn't get a test invite yet !?
Test passed an hour ago, 19/20, very easy. I knew what my mistake was before I even was out of the room.
It might be worth adding to my notes that my application is in French, as most in here probably aren't.
From what the agent said, I deducted that the decision was made but it's not official nor in ecas. She said oath would be by October as the normal time is 12 months; but still said she expects it to be done around April.
It might be worth adding to my notes that my application is in French, as most in here probably aren't.
From what the agent said, I deducted that the decision was made but it's not official nor in ecas. She said oath would be by October as the normal time is 12 months; but still said she expects it to be done around April.
I have been in process since November 26th. Edmonton applicant. I called CIC and they said there is no single comment or notes on my file. I have applied for GCMS notes. Should i be worried?