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NOC selection! Please help!

jsingh17

Star Member
May 18, 2016
113
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Ontario
Category........
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
Hi guys,

I am in a limbo here. I contacted Employment and Social Development Canada to help me identify the most relevant NOC based on my duties. But their reply isn't of much help! Please see below.

"Thank you for your interest in the National Occupational Classification (NOC).

The NOC is designed to classify occupational information in the Canadian labour market in a standardized framework and a manageable, understandable and coherent system. The basic principle of classification of the NOC is that of kind of work performed. Occupations are identified and grouped primarily in terms of the work usually performed, this being determined by the tasks, duties, and responsibilities of the occupation. Factors such as the materials processed or used, the industrial processes and the equipment used, the degree of responsibility and complexity of work, as well as the products made and services provided, have been used as indicators of the work performed when combining jobs into occupations and occupations into groups. An occupation is defined as a collection of jobs, sufficiently similar in work performed to be grouped under a common label for classification purposes. A job, in turn, encompasses all the tasks carried out by a particular worker to complete their duties.

Based on the information you have provided, we are unable to propose a potential NOC code. Please conduct a more thorough search in the NOC Web site (http://noc.esdc.gc.ca/English/noc/welcome.aspx?ver=16) by using your occupational title or keywords related to your occupation in the Quick Search box located at the top or using a complex search in the Search the NOC box located at the top left side of the menu bar. This will generate a list of possible occupations. The education, main duties and employment requirements should also correspond to your occupation.

If you encounter difficulties in finding the NOC code that matches to your occupation, please send us the following information about your occupation:

- the exact job title;
- the education and work experience required by the employer for entry into the occupation; and
- the type of establishment in which the work is performed.

For reasons of security and privacy do not send any documentation electronically, such as resumes and government-issued case numbers or hyperlinks.

Note that the final decision for selecting the most appropriate National Occupational Classification (NOC) code is each individual's responsibility as he/she knows his/her education, skills and abilities better than anyone else. Our role is only to provide guidance.
Thank you for contacting the NOC and have a nice day."

Role: Process Engineering Associate
Education completed: Bachelor's in mechanical systems engineering

My job duties and responsibilities are as below:

• Design, improve, and implement processes to enhance overall schedule performance, lower cost, increase uptime, and improve quality through the application of Lean and other Industrial Engineering concepts
• Leadership role in standardization of core processes and Lean Continuous Improvement (CI) projects
• Develop and deploy Standard Operating Procedures (SOPs) for process improvement and safe operation of equipment
• Develop and deploy new engineering methods to optimize process designs
• Programming and optimization of tube perforating, and laser cutting machines using Computer Aided Design (CAD) / Computer Aided Manufacturing (CAM) and Numerical Control (NC) programming.
• Develop new ideas for value stream improvements, including capability, capacity, throughput, and work flow
• Liaise with machine guarding and Pre-Start Health and Safety Review (PSHSR) consultants
• Develop training materials for Operator technical skills development
• Coordinate design and manufacture of check fixtures, gauges, tooling, machine parts, etc.
• Assist in development and control of equipment, parts, and product drawings using 2-D and 3-D CAD
• Support Sales department by determining cycle times for product quotations
• Liaise with Quality, Maintenance, and Production on various projects and day to day tasks
• Assist with Health and Safety (H&S) and Environmental Management System (EMS) projects and system maintenance tasks

I have narrowed down my search to NOC 2141 and NOC 2233. Not sure which of the two is more relevant. I feel that NOC 2233 is more relevant since I am a recent graduate and don't do any supervision. But kind of unsure. Can you guys help?

Thanks
 

petra2016

Star Member
Oct 21, 2016
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2141 Industrial and manufacturing engineers
2233 Industrial engineering and manufacturing technologists and technicians

I think 2233 better
 

rdmindia

Hero Member
Nov 24, 2016
237
34
Hi, 2233 is for diploma holder's so don't compare with 2141. As you already know that 2141 required Graduation and you already did it. I have also same confusion and got the answer yesterday that my NOC is 2141 and basically my profile belongs to Quality assurance and control.

Hope it helps
 

jsingh17

Star Member
May 18, 2016
113
10
Ontario
Category........
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
rdmindia said:
Hi, 2233 is for diploma holder's so don't compare with 2141. As you already know that 2141 required Graduation and you already did it. I have also same confusion and got the answer yesterday that my NOC is 2141 and basically my profile belongs to Quality assurance and control.

Hope it helps
Yea, but the thing is I have 1 year experience only and I don't supervise anybody!
 

jsingh17

Star Member
May 18, 2016
113
10
Ontario
Category........
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
petra2016 said:
2141 Industrial and manufacturing engineers
2233 Industrial engineering and manufacturing technologists and technicians

I think 2233 better
That's what I think. Thanks
 

josematt18

Full Member
Feb 14, 2018
28
2
India
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
2141
App. Filed.......
04-10-2018
AOR Received.
04-10-2018
Med's Done....
02-11-2018
Passport Req..
19-06-2019
VISA ISSUED...
04-07-2019
LANDED..........
25-07-2019
Additional information
  • Industrial engineers develop and implement organizational and management systems, and manufacturing engineers design production processes.
  • There is considerable mobility between industrial engineering specializations at the less senior levels.
  • Supervisory and senior positions in this unit group require experience.
  • Engineers often work in a multidisciplinary environment and acquire knowledge and skills through work experience that may allow them to practise in associated areas of science, engineering, sales, marketing or management.
 

Kshitij10

Full Member
Dec 20, 2018
21
0
Hello,
I need help in selecting my exact NOC code.
My Job title is Quality Associates. What would be the NOC code of this? Please help me.

Thank you.