NOC - Salary: Does it come into consideration?

[wsmolind]

Hello!

I think this might have been poster before. If so, forgive me! But I have a question that I hope someone can help me with.

My husband and I are applying for PR under CEC. We both meet the requirements, and originally we were going to apply through him because his job is much better payed than mine. However, his job duties do not match the NOC code description we'd like to apply under. If I had to calculate, I'd say they match at 50% at best. His salary and education all match the requirements for the job, but the actual duties are different.

So now we're thinking of applying through me, under NOC 5241 (Graphic Designers and Illustrators). My job description matches exactly, and I have well over a year of full time employment. However, my salary is below average. I went to an official Service Canada website and it said the minimum in Toronto is 17.50 per hour, and an average of 34,600 a year. I'm payed 15 per hour, and avergae 30,600 a year plus benefits.

My question is, would this be a red flag in my application? I think job responsibilities matching is more important than salary, but if mine is lower than average by 4k, could they reject me based on it not meeting the minimum average?

Any help or personal experiences with this would be really appreciated!

And thank you!!

 

[Gurindar]

Hello!

I think this might have been poster before. If so, forgive me! But I have a question that I hope someone can help me with.

My husband and I are applying for PR under CEC. We both meet the requirements, and originally we were going to apply through him because his job is much better payed than mine. However, his job duties do not match the NOC code description we'd like to apply under. If I had to calculate, I'd say they match at 50% at best. His salary and education all match the requirements for the job, but the actual duties are different.

So now we're thinking of applying through me, under NOC 5241 (Graphic Designers and Illustrators). My job description matches exactly, and I have well over a year of full time employment. However, my salary is below average. I went to an official Service Canada website and it said the minimum in Toronto is 17.50 per hour, and an average of 34,600 a year. I'm payed 15 per hour, and avergae 30,600 a year plus benefits.

My question is, would this be a red flag in my application? I think job responsibilities matching is more important than salary, but if mine is lower than average by 4k, could they reject me based on it not meeting the minimum average?

Any help or personal experiences with this would be really appreciated!

And thank you!!

Yes i do have seen people getting and explanation demand from CIC regarding minimum wages for the NOC chosen and do have seen concerns raised by CIC not matching the job for which applicant is applying with the education achieved by applicant .

Please wait for more seniors to comment.

 

[wsmolind]

I've heard of both cases, too. I'm concerned, I don't know which of us has the better shot at getting the PR. We're both lacking in something.

But thank you for your help! I'll wait and see if someone else has had a similar experience or any other information.

 

[wssun]

My file was questioned by a VO because the salary was low..the minimum pay for my job on HRSDC is 14.5/hr..and I got paid for 13.5/hr...

But I think if every other factors of your case is fine, the VO can not simply reject you over the salary issue. And I think the salary also depends on other factors,

such as company size..years of your experience. So I guess as long as everything is logical and your job experience is genuine, then you have nothing to worry

about. Hope it helps..

 

[canadacec123]

One suggestion. Regardless the question you asked, I think you both can apply and would be dependent to each other. By doing this you would have double chance to get through. Of course, you have to pay double fee. If you like it then ask for some professional advice on this.

 

[wsmolind]

Thank you for both responses!

Yes, what you say makes sense. My company is small and this was my first full time job after graduation (apart from my part-time job while studying) in Canada, so I'm thinking maybe it'll make sense if the official looks at the bigger picture rather than just the salary.

And yes! That was also what we were thinking, maybe combining both applications, if possible? Show a combination of both of our incomes? We will probably end up consulting with a lawyer in the next few days to look over our options again. But thank you for your suggestion, I'm confident that's probably what we'll end up doing.

I really appreciate your help

 

[wssun]

Thank you for both responses!

Yes, what you say makes sense. My company is small and this was my first full time job after graduation (apart from my part-time job while studying) in Canada, so I'm thinking maybe it'll make sense if the official looks at the bigger picture rather than just the salary.

And yes! That was also what we were thinking, maybe combining both applications, if possible? Show a combination of both of our incomes? We will probably end up consulting with a lawyer en the next few days to look over our options again. But thank you for your suggestion, I'm confident that's probably what we'll end up doing.

I really appreciate your help

I think it also depends on different VO, my friend's salary is lower than the minimun also but she got her RPRF request last month.

Good luck.

 

[mesumrizvi]

Salary shouldnt be that big of a concern. I had my friend got PR and she was getting paid like less than $13.5/ hour. So i guess it depends on multiple factors..

 

[yixiaop26]

Hello!

I think this might have been poster before. If so, forgive me! But I have a question that I hope someone can help me with.

My husband and I are applying for PR under CEC. We both meet the requirements, and originally we were going to apply through him because his job is much better payed than mine. However, his job duties do not match the NOC code description we'd like to apply under. If I had to calculate, I'd say they match at 50% at best. His salary and education all match the requirements for the job, but the actual duties are different.

So now we're thinking of applying through me, under NOC 5241 (Graphic Designers and Illustrators). My job description matches exactly, and I have well over a year of full time employment. However, my salary is below average. I went to an official Service Canada website and it said the minimum in Toronto is 17.50 per hour, and an average of 34,600 a year. I'm payed 15 per hour, and avergae 30,600 a year plus benefits.

My question is, would this be a red flag in my application? I think job responsibilities matching is more important than salary, but if mine is lower than average by 4k, could they reject me based on it not meeting the minimum average?

Any help or personal experiences with this would be really appreciated!

And thank you!!

I agree all of above,

and problem is not the low salary only, it is because they can question your work experience because of your low salary. so prepare other doc in best situation as you can to defend this become more necessary.

same thing for you husband situation: code and description should be matched , or else they can reject it because of it . about the code, suggest two ways:

send email to NOC code website with your duties to get suggestion, they will ask your job detail, then use that one.

or, convince his boss to give a better reference letter to make it much close to the noc code, e.g if currently if you 10 items, but only 5 match, consider remove some not matched . now it would be 7 in total, 5 matched. then you get a much better "major matched result" but of course, all of this must be agreed with his boss.

 

[cancecjan2013]

Yes Salary should be as per the Standard for NOC code chosen...
People gets mail to explain any anomalies in that...
You should be ready with your proper explanation to convince VO in that case with proper proof

 

[jes_ON]

My husband and I are applying for PR under CEC. We both meet the requirements, and originally we were going to apply through him because his job is much better payed than mine. However, his job duties do not match the NOC code description we'd like to apply under. If I had to calculate, I'd say they match at 50% at best. His salary and education all match the requirements for the job, but the actual duties are different.

So now we're thinking of applying through me, under NOC 5241 (Graphic Designers and Illustrators). My job description matches exactly, and I have well over a year of full time employment. However, my salary is below average. I went to an official Service Canada website and it said the minimum in Toronto is 17.50 per hour, and an average of 34,600 a year. I'm payed 15 per hour, and avergae 30,600 a year plus benefits.

My question is, would this be a red flag in my application? I think job responsibilities matching is more important than salary, but if mine is lower than average by 4k, could they reject me based on it not meeting the minimum average?

I would say overall, having job duties that do not fit the NOC is a bigger challenge than a slightly below "official" wage. But before you rule out your husband as Principal Applicant, you should first make sure that the problem is what you say it is - you can post the duties and the NOC here and get opinions.

Assuming you are on a BOWP and this is a "first' job, this would be taken into consideration. Someone on a closed work permit would be held to the wage/salary (at a minimum) identified on the LMO/LMIA.

I'm not sure what you mean by suggesting "combining" income, but there's really no scope for that within the CEC application - it is approved (or refused) based on whether or not the principal applicant meets the program requirements (and you both meet other entry requirements - medical, security, criminal...). If you apply as principal applicant, your husband's education, employment, income are totally irrelevant.