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Karen111

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Apr 24, 2014
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NOC Code......
1123
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
30-04-2014
AOR Received.
12-06-2014
IELTS Request
Submitted with the application
Med's Request
Upfront
Med's Done....
18-11-2014
Interview........
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24-03-2015
I am working at a Canadian TV station as a Sales Coordinator. I would like to ask your opinion on NOC code based on the wording of my employment letter. Please see below for job descriptions:
• Prepare contracts and traffic orders for television commercials;
• Enter sales orders into the Broadcasting System. Maintain sales orders in the systems
• Communicate changes with advertisers, and negotiate make goods;
• Revise orders to indicate spot non-availability (and at times negotiate NA replacements);
• Organize and distribute reports that support the sales staff;
• Assist in the co-ordination and hosting of presentations at agencies with the sales executives

Would anyone give me some advises? It's hard to meet anyone applying under this job category... so I don't know where to ask...

I am thinking to apply under NOC 1123 - Professional occupations in advertising, marketing and public relations...Do you think this will be a good idea? any advises?
 

Matt the Aussie

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Mar 27, 2014
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28-01-2014
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18-02-2014
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12-03-2014
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11-04-2014
byrwus said:
in my opinion 1123 is for people who build marketing strategies.

What you do is pure sales coordination, something more into customer service.
Agreed. "Professional" as used in this sense is executive level and the job description given does not match that.
 

Karen111

Full Member
Apr 24, 2014
48
1
Toronto, Ontario
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
1123
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
30-04-2014
AOR Received.
12-06-2014
IELTS Request
Submitted with the application
Med's Request
Upfront
Med's Done....
18-11-2014
Interview........
N/A
Passport Req..
N/A (Visa Exampt Country)
VISA ISSUED...
N/A (Visa Exampt Country)
LANDED..........
24-03-2015
Thanks everyone...
Do you have any NOC codes recommended for my job descriptions?
 

jes_ON

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13-Aug-2010
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Karen111 said:
I am working at a Canadian TV station as a Sales Coordinator. I would like to ask your opinion on NOC code based on the wording of my employment letter. Please see below for job descriptions:
• Prepare contracts and traffic orders for television commercials;
• Enter sales orders into the Broadcasting System. Maintain sales orders in the systems
• Communicate changes with advertisers, and negotiate make goods;
• Revise orders to indicate spot non-availability (and at times negotiate NA replacements);
• Organize and distribute reports that support the sales staff;
• Assist in the co-ordination and hosting of presentations at agencies with the sales executives
Would anyone give me some advises? It's hard to meet anyone applying under this job category... so I don't know where to ask...

I am thinking to apply under NOC 1123 - Professional occupations in advertising, marketing and public relations...Do you think this will be a good idea? any advises?
Well... unfortunately, media sales representatives would be NOC 6411 (skill level C - not "skilled") ....

http://www5.hrsdc.gc.ca/NOC/English/NOC/2011/ProfileKeyword.aspx?val=6&val1=6411&val11=media+sales&val12=0&val13=0&val14=&val15=0&val16=0

... and it sounds like you are not a sales representative but support staff, so your position is unlikely to be classified as 'skilled.' Although administrative assistant (1241) and administrative officer (1221) are skilled, they are two of the small number of NOCs that are currently excluded from the CEC program.
 

Karen111

Full Member
Apr 24, 2014
48
1
Toronto, Ontario
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
1123
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
30-04-2014
AOR Received.
12-06-2014
IELTS Request
Submitted with the application
Med's Request
Upfront
Med's Done....
18-11-2014
Interview........
N/A
Passport Req..
N/A (Visa Exampt Country)
VISA ISSUED...
N/A (Visa Exampt Country)
LANDED..........
24-03-2015
so Here is what I do at work:

As a television station sales coordinator, I work with media buyers and advertising agencies who purchase televisions' and radio commercial spots to advertise their products. And I report to my sales executives who is my direct manager. The sales executives does most of the major negotiations such as annual commitment discount (if advertisers decide to commit more money annually, then they get more discount on their spots) and I do little minor negotiations in daily basis. For example, if their spots did not air due to a last minute program change, I negotiate makegoods (give them other programmings to make it up..)

Also, the buyers give me and my sales executives(my direct reporting manager) the projected budgets how much they can spend for the upcoming advertisement campaigns. Then, I find them suitable TV shows for their products... also negotiate the spot prices, book the spots, prepare contracts (contains the list of the programs they bought, # of estimated audiences, program information and time) to inform the buyers what programs they bought...

Also when there are discrepancies on the airing on spots, I negotiate discrepancies resolutions as well..


Any advises? I really don't know what to pick for the NOC code now... I don't have any friends working in the same industry. I tried to ask to my company HR and/or co-workers, they are not familier with any visa processes and NOC code (my company doesn't hire foreigners in general..) They are not so helpful.. :(

I will really appreciate if anyone can help me with the NOC issues...
 

Karen111

Full Member
Apr 24, 2014
48
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Toronto, Ontario
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
1123
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
30-04-2014
AOR Received.
12-06-2014
IELTS Request
Submitted with the application
Med's Request
Upfront
Med's Done....
18-11-2014
Interview........
N/A
Passport Req..
N/A (Visa Exampt Country)
VISA ISSUED...
N/A (Visa Exampt Country)
LANDED..........
24-03-2015
I am not sure if my hr will help me with putting the NOC code on the reference letter because even getting a letter with job descriptions caused so much trouble with HR already (as I mentioned, my company doesn't support foreigner workers and their visa processes..... I know this sucks..). But I guess I still have to try.....

If the HR says no, I will ask them to put some job qualifications as follows:

- Agency experience and University degree/equivalent is required..
- 2-3 years of experience in sales

I am also thinking to write a letter stating what I do (probably emphasize that I perform lots of sales executives roles) and attach it to Schedule 8 - Canadian Experience Class...

I would appreciate your feedback on my plans above....
 

Karen111

Full Member
Apr 24, 2014
48
1
Toronto, Ontario
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
1123
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
30-04-2014
AOR Received.
12-06-2014
IELTS Request
Submitted with the application
Med's Request
Upfront
Med's Done....
18-11-2014
Interview........
N/A
Passport Req..
N/A (Visa Exampt Country)
VISA ISSUED...
N/A (Visa Exampt Country)
LANDED..........
24-03-2015
As per your advises, I spoke with my HR manager and the kind lady promised me to help me with the NOC issue..

Here is the revised reference letter:

To Whom It May Concern,

We hereby confirm that Ms. XXXXXX has been employed by XXX Media since March 1, 2013. Her current position is Media Sales Coordinator (NOC 1123 – Professional occupations in advertising, marketing and public relations) with an annual base salary of $45,000 with full benefits. Ms. XXXX is a regular full-time employee working 37 hours per week.

Please see below for Ms. XXXXX s job description as a Media Sales Coordinator:
• Advise media buyers and advertisers on television and radio advertising and sponsorship strategies on XXXX Channels;
• Plan, organize and execute effective advertising campaigns suitable for products and ensure campaigns meet targeted audiences and markets
• Prepare contracts and traffic orders for television and radio commercials;
• Gather and research latest media and broadcasting materials for clients and distribute reports that support sales staff
• Maintain advertising campaign contracts on Broadcasting Management Systems
• Communicate campaign changes with advertisers, and negotiate make goods and discrepancy resolutions;
• Assist in the co-ordination and hosting of presentations at agencies with the sales executives.

Please see the following qualification for Media Sales Coordinator:
- Agency experience and University degree/equivalent is required
- 2-3 years of experience in Media

For further information, please contact the undersigned at XXXX or via email at XXXXXXXX@XXmedia.com.


do you think these revised job descriptions and qualifications finally fit into NOC 1123?
 

Karen111

Full Member
Apr 24, 2014
48
1
Toronto, Ontario
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
1123
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
30-04-2014
AOR Received.
12-06-2014
IELTS Request
Submitted with the application
Med's Request
Upfront
Med's Done....
18-11-2014
Interview........
N/A
Passport Req..
N/A (Visa Exampt Country)
VISA ISSUED...
N/A (Visa Exampt Country)
LANDED..........
24-03-2015
Should I ask the HR manager if I can take out "Sales" from job title so it will be just "Media Coordinator"?

because I think my job more related to providing media marketing strategies to the advertisers than sales...
Or should I emphasis on specialty sales and try 6221 Technical sales specialists – wholesale trade?

For the NOC 1123, I bolded the parts that match to my revised job descriptions.. would you please take a look and let me know if you still think I should go with the sales??

1123 - Professional occupations in advertising, marketing and public relations
This unit group includes specialists in advertising, marketing and public relations who analyse, develop and implement communication and promotion strategies and information programs, analyse advertising needs and develop appropriate advertising and marketing plans, publicize activities and events, and maintain media relations on behalf of businesses, governments and other organizations, and for performers, athletes, writers and other talented individuals. They are employed by consulting firms, advertising agencies, corporations, associations, government, social agencies, museums, galleries, public interest groups, and cultural and other organizations, or they may be self-employed. Agents such as entertainment, literary and sports agents are included in this unit group.

Illustrative example(s)

advertising consultant
communications officer
communications specialist
event marketing specialist
fundraising consultant
information officer
literary agent
media co-ordinator
media relations officer
museum educator
performers agent
press secretary
public affairs officer
public relations consultant
public relations officer
publicist
publicity agent
marketing co-ordinator
marketing specialist - advertising
media co-ordinator
media events co-ordinator
media relations co-ordinator
media relations officer
museum education officer
museum educator
musicians agent
officer, public relations
organizer, advertising campaign
performers agent
press agent
press agent, public relations
press secretary
press secretary, public relations
product manager - marketing
promotion strategies consultant
public affairs officer
public relations agent
public relations consultant
public relations co-ordinator
public relations officer
public relations practitioner
public relations press agent
public relations press secretary
public relations representative
public relations specialist
publicist
publicity agent
publicity co-ordinator
publicity information officer
recreation association information officer
sales and promotions co-ordinator
singers agent
specialist - e-media advertising
specialist, advertising
spokesperson
sports agent
stations-relations administrator
talent agent
talent representative
theatrical agent
theatrical business agent
tourism information officer
tourism information technician

Exclusion(s)

Authors and writers (5121)
Conference and event planners (1226)
Marketing consultants (See 4163 Business development officers and marketing researchers and consultants)
Public relations managers (See 0124 Advertising, marketing and public relations managers)
Main duties

Specialists in advertising, marketing and public relations perform some or all of the following duties:

Assess characteristics of products or services to be promoted and advise on the advertising needs of an establishment
Advise clients on advertising or sales promotion strategies
Develop and implement advertising campaigns appropriate for print or electronic media
Gather, research and prepare communications material for internal and external audiences
Develop, implement and evaluate communications strategies and programs designed to inform clients, employees and the general public of initiatives and policies of businesses, governments and other organizations
Conduct public opinion and attitude surveys to identify the interests and concerns of key groups served by their organization
Prepare or oversee preparation of reports, briefs, bibliographies, speeches, presentations, Web sites and press releases
Develop and organize workshops, meetings, ceremonies and other events for publicity, fundraising and information purposes
Prepare and deliver educational and publicity programs and informational materials to increase awareness of museums, galleries and other tourist attractions
Initiate and maintain contact with the media
Arrange interviews and news conferences
Act as spokesperson for an organization and answer written and oral inquiries
Co-ordinate special publicity events and promotions for internal and external audiences
Assist in the preparation of brochures, reports, newsletters and other material
Represent and act as an agent for talented individuals or individuals with specific occupational expertise
Prepare or oversee preparation of sports, literary, performance or other contracts.
Literary agents specialize in representing specific types of authors and writers. Performance agents specialize in representing singers, musicians, actors or other performers. Sports agents specialize in representing specific athletes or sports teams.

Employment requirements

A university degree or college diploma in business marketing, public relations, communications, journalism, museology or a discipline related to a particular subject matter is usually required.
Practitioners in public relations may require an APR (Accredited in Public Relations) designation.
Additional information

Progression to managerial positions in public relations, communications and fundraising is possible with additional training and experience.
 

shyrlen

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Jan 19, 2016
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NOC problem

hi i need help with my NOC i work as a local store marketing in a fast food chain an i dont know what is my NOC s i need help. u could search in web what Is LSM job dedescripti
 

Ko_ko_Ko

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Aug 28, 2014
170
7
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa (CEC) Nova Scotia (PNP)
NOC Code......
1123
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
September 9, 2014 (CEC), October 13, 2015 (OPNP)
Doc's Request.
-
Nomination.....
May 13, 2015
AOR Received.
29/01/2015 (For CEC) 22/01/2016 (PNP)
IELTS Request
Celpip Send with Application (CEC) (PNP)
File Transfer...
-
Med's Request
24th Feb 2016 (CEC)
Med's Done....
29th Feb 2016 (CEC)
Interview........
-
Passport Req..
9th Mar 2016 (CEC)
VISA ISSUED...
14th Mar 2016 (CEC)
LANDED..........
30th Mar 2016 (CEC)
Karen111 said:
I am working at a Canadian TV station as a Sales Coordinator. I would like to ask your opinion on NOC code based on the wording of my employment letter. Please see below for job descriptions:
• Prepare contracts and traffic orders for television commercials;
• Enter sales orders into the Broadcasting System. Maintain sales orders in the systems
• Communicate changes with advertisers, and negotiate make goods;
• Revise orders to indicate spot non-availability (and at times negotiate NA replacements);
• Organize and distribute reports that support the sales staff;
• Assist in the co-ordination and hosting of presentations at agencies with the sales executives

Would anyone give me some advises? It's hard to meet anyone applying under this job category... so I don't know where to ask...

I am thinking to apply under NOC 1123 - Professional occupations in advertising, marketing and public relations...Do you think this will be a good idea? any advises?
Seems good, but also depends on the salary level though, i yours is below 50k a year would not recommend using noc 1123
 

fperk_83

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Nov 1, 2016
213
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Hi All,

Could yourll please assist me for the NOC code for Sales Cordinator. I have 8 years plus experience in the same. From 1st Jan 2016, my company has given me the designation of Customer Service Manager. But still my duties and responsibilities are the same in my office.

At the moment I am creating my Express Entry Profile and I am not sure which NOC Code to use. I am not able to find sales coordinator, can i add the NOC code for Customer Service Manager. If yes, then which NOC code