NOC clarification, help please. 2171 or 2281?

[mhbin]

Hello everyone,

I was working as a LAN/WAN network specialist until 2012. On 2012, I branched out to the network security field and I have still been working as "Senior Network Security Specialist".

Here are my main duties, from an ad in Indeed:

Exhibits expert knowledge of endpoint security controls, including the deployment of next generation security controls for endpoints and mobile,
Completion of a Security related certification is considered an asset (CISSP, CISA, CISM, GIAC),
Demonstrates expert knowledge of endpoint security, mobile security and network security control environments and architecture,
Experience with Firewall Policy Modeling Tools - RedSeal, Tufin, Skybox etc.
Knowledge in engineering layered DoS and DDoS attacks network level protect solutions,
Experience in security components including:
Vulnerability Assessments
Anti-Virus and Spyware
Intrusion Detection/Protection Systems
Firewalls

So my NOC seems to be more like 2171 (Information systems analysts and consultants) rather than 2181 (Computer network technicians) since 2012.

It is an important change because the skill level also changes from B to A.

I tried to get an answer from NC-NOC-CNP-GD@hrsdc-rhdcc.gc.ca, but they always send me an automatic emails saying that I need to be more clear.

What are your thoughts? Thanks.

 

[Canada2425]

Hello everyone,

I was working as a LAN/WAN network specialist until 2012. On 2012, I branched out to the network security field and I have still been working as "Senior Network Security Specialist".

Here are my main duties, from an ad in Indeed:

Exhibits expert knowledge of endpoint security controls, including the deployment of next generation security controls for endpoints and mobile,
Completion of a Security related certification is considered an asset (CISSP, CISA, CISM, GIAC),
Demonstrates expert knowledge of endpoint security, mobile security and network security control environments and architecture,
Experience with Firewall Policy Modeling Tools - RedSeal, Tufin, Skybox etc.
Knowledge in engineering layered DoS and DDoS attacks network level protect solutions,
Experience in security components including:
Vulnerability Assessments
Anti-Virus and Spyware
Intrusion Detection/Protection Systems
Firewalls

So my NOC seems to be more like 2171 (Information systems analysts and consultants) rather than 2181 (Computer network technicians) since 2012.

It is an important change because the skill level also changes from B to A.

I tried to get an answer from NC-NOC-CNP-GD@hrsdc-rhdcc.gc.ca, but they always send me an automatic emails saying that I need to be more clear.

What are your thoughts? Thanks.

Frankly speaking, from the JD you have shared - I won't recommend to select 2171. Mine is 2171 and my R&R are way remote from what you have mentioned.
I'm not sure about 2181 but surely no for 2171. This is just my opinion.

 

[mhbin]

Hey, thanks for the reply.

2171 is a very interesting NOC, it has wide variety of titles from business management to IT consultancy. But in general, it more looks like a management level jobs, what do you think?

2281 is much more closer to my proficieny as I do not have a manager role, but there is no security related title there.

 

[Canada2425]

Hey, thanks for the reply.

2171 is a very interesting NOC, it has wide variety of titles from business management to IT consultancy. But in general, it more looks like a management level jobs, what do you think?

2281 is much more closer to my proficieny as I do not have a manager role, but there is no security related title there.

This description under 2171 seems on similar lines:
Systems security analysts confer with clients to identify and document requirements, assess physical and technical security risks to data, software and hardware, and develop policies, procedures and contingency plans to minimize the effects of security breaches.

I didn't read all the responsibilities earlier. As per above, 2171 looks ok. Dicey one though. Sorry, you need to try re-sending the email to NC-NOC-CNP-GD@hrsdc-rhdcc.gc.ca. Try for some time with more clarity if you can, else 2171 it is.

 

[varunreddys]

I am going file in for express entry , confused in selecting the NOC code .

My consultant is stating to select 2281 but the job roles and duties are not suitable as per my profile .

Any help is appreciated.

I have done my B Tech in Electronics and communications stream and have experience in cyber security

Roles and Responsibilities

Participate in security incident response by performing relevant investigation and forensic analysis of each incident and applying the necessary security mitigations.

Monitor, manage, and maintain the company’s SIEM.

Manage SIEM elements such as Log collection, Normalization, Correlation, and Aggregation.

Examine, appraise, and interpret correlation metrics, develop dashboards, and reports.

Tuning of rules, filters, and policies for detection-related security technologies to improve accuracy and visibility.

Provide detailed analysis and recommendations after monitoring security events from several sources, such as: IDS/IPS, DLP, Anti-Virus/Endpoint Protection, Network and web application firewalls.

Perform required compliance related activities and provide support for PCI DSS and other audit related requirements.

Participate in new security solutions evaluation, design and implementation.

Maintain documentation of tools, logic, policies, and procedures.

Participate in security risks, threats and vulnerabilities assessment.

On call, off-hours and/or shift work will be required

Manage day to day security tasks to identify risks and mitigate them.

Monitor alerts & logs for firewall, ePo and take actions accordingly.

Maintain various security tools used to monitor policy compliance as per Client

Monitor for emerging threat patterns and vulnerabilities which are provided by SIEM and Nexpose tools ,Establish and maintain intrusion detection and policies and offense rules

Active interest in cyber security, incident detection, network and systems security.

Familiarity with cyber-crime and cyber-attacks, responsible groups, motivations and techniques

Demonstrable experience in network, systems and security monitoring.

Thorough understanding of, and experience with, TCP/IP.

Knowledge of IT security best practices, common attack types and detection / prevention methods.

Demonstrable experience of analyzing and interpreting system, security and application logs in order to diagnose faults and spot abnormal behavior.

Responsible for taking action on alerts, events, and incidents reported from various security devices like IPS/IDS , Smart Events, McAfee ePO, SIEM etc and issue escalated from the service desk

 

[varunreddys]

As per the NOC website I feel 2171 is more suitable.

Request help

 

[mhbin]

My duties from my employer is as follows:

• Communicate with clients to identify network and security requirements, and perform technical solutions
  
  
• Analyzing the customer security needs and creating attack mitigation profiles accordingly
  
  
• Creating and maintaining secure and encrypted virtual private network (VPN) tunnels
  
  
• Reporting security risks and security incidents to the customers
  
  
• Creating and maintaining technical security documents and sharing them with the customers
  
  
• Implement the procedures during security breaches
  
  
• Install, operate, and upgrade security operating systems software and hardware to comply with customer requirements
  
  
• Monitoring network and security systems' performances
  
  
• Recommend security enhancements and purchases.

And my current title is Security Senior Specialist.

Do you people think it is suitable for 2171 as Security Analyst?

From the NOC 2171:
"Systems security analysts confer with clients to identify and document requirements, assess physical and technical security risks to data, software and hardware, and develop policies, procedures and contingency plans to minimize the effects of security breaches."

 

[monavy]

there is absolutely no difference if you select 2171 or 2281.

 

[mhbin]

That's what I thought too. Which one would be better you think?

 

[applicant_2016]

Hello All,

I worked as a fulltime intern for 1 year in US and was part of the SAP analysts team in the project. My responsibilities fell under NOC 2171/A but in the experience letter the HR has just wrote the generic roles and responsibilities outlined for the position at that time:

• Support project solution design and documentation including business requirements, process definition and process flow modeling.
• Support IT system configuration and/or ABAP development activities, including solutions in the SAP ERP system.
• Support IT system testing activities including test script creation, execution and documentation

Can you please tell if this holds valid for 2171/A ? I am confused as they are just generic for several positions they had across various teams. Please advice.
Thanks in advance.