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NOC 4131 - Inputs here!

barundutta76

Star Member
Oct 19, 2010
109
1
124
India
Category........
Visa Office......
New Delhi
NOC Code......
4131
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
01-12-2009
Doc's Request.
08-02-2010
AOR Received.
08-02-2010
IELTS Request
17-02-2011
File Transfer...
17-02-2010
Med's Request
13-01-2011
Med's Done....
18-01-2011
Interview........
17-02-2011
Passport Req..
13-01-2011
hi,

i'm under the noc 4131....training manager in an insurance company....got my 2nd AOR on 7th june...waiting for medical...
 

CALOVER

Member
Sep 22, 2010
17
1
Category........
Visa Office......
Singapore
NOC Code......
4131
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
06-01-2010
Doc's Request.
25-02-2010
AOR Received.
30-06-2010
File Transfer...
03-03-2010
Med's Request
watin
Please provide me some good advise


Dear experts,
I need your valuable reply.

My E-cas shows in process.
I got a letter from CHC that expressed:

You have got the pass mark 67.
According to section 76(3) the officer believes the point total is not a sufficient indicator of whether or not the applicant may become economically established in Canada.

The letter also marked on my IELTS score which is 3 Moderate and one basic.

I have 60 days to send my opinion ti the CHC.

What can I do??????
 

Drooza

Hero Member
Sep 9, 2009
702
22
Edmonton, Alberta Canada
Category........
Visa Office......
LONDON
NOC Code......
2253
Job Offer........
Yes
App. Filed.......
15 Sep. 2009
Doc's Request.
17 Nov. 2009
AOR Received.
18 FEB. 2010
File Transfer...
17 Nov. 2009
Med's Request
20 March 2013
Med's Done....
09 April 2013
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
17 june 2013
VISA ISSUED...
18 July 2013
LANDED..........
sept 29 2013
please past letter on website after reading we my help you but bottom line they need high score in ielts you have to set for onther test in coming days so good luck i have been in same problem and i dont know what to do?
 

Drooza

Hero Member
Sep 9, 2009
702
22
Edmonton, Alberta Canada
Category........
Visa Office......
LONDON
NOC Code......
2253
Job Offer........
Yes
App. Filed.......
15 Sep. 2009
Doc's Request.
17 Nov. 2009
AOR Received.
18 FEB. 2010
File Transfer...
17 Nov. 2009
Med's Request
20 March 2013
Med's Done....
09 April 2013
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
17 june 2013
VISA ISSUED...
18 July 2013
LANDED..........
sept 29 2013
Dear Heemu
Thats good you have got medicals please can you tell me what was your ielts score?
 

CALOVER

Member
Sep 22, 2010
17
1
Category........
Visa Office......
Singapore
NOC Code......
4131
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
06-01-2010
Doc's Request.
25-02-2010
AOR Received.
30-06-2010
File Transfer...
03-03-2010
Med's Request
watin
Drooza said:
please past letter on website after reading we my help you but bottom line they need high score in ielts you have to set for onther test in coming days so good luck i have been in same problem and i dont know what to do?
Did u got same letter from the CHC, What you did? how many days did they gave u? pls share
 

Language Instructor

Full Member
Oct 28, 2010
21
0
Hi,
I have a question regarding my exprience. in 2007 when I was applying I had 3 years' exprience (part-time) but I was not aware of full-time or part-time stuff, so I checked 3 years instead of 1.5 years...... Do you think that's gonna be a problem? should I inform them about the mistake? one more thing.... now that I have 4 years' exprience, would that add to my score?
 

rupeshhari

VIP Member
Sep 15, 2008
3,686
255
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
NOC Code......
4131
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Dec 2008 to CIO
Doc's Request.
Jan 2009
AOR Received.
Feb 2009 from VO
IELTS Request
Didn't do IELTS.
File Transfer...
Not transfered to regional office.
Med's Request
July 2010 with RPRF and another PCC.
Med's Done....
Meds - September 2010. PCC - Late Oct 2010
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
Early November 2010
VISA ISSUED...
December 2010 - Exactly days shy of 2 years since I sent in my application to CIO.
LANDED..........
2011
i am not sure, that is why i deleted my earlier post. wait for others to answer. The question of your full time experience may arise.

The applicant must have at least one year of continuous full-time paid work experience, or the
continuous part-time equivalent, in the category of Skill Type 0, or Skill Level A or B, according to
the Canadian National Occupational Classification (NOC).

i guess tell them now.
 

rupeshhari

VIP Member
Sep 15, 2008
3,686
255
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
NOC Code......
4131
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Dec 2008 to CIO
Doc's Request.
Jan 2009
AOR Received.
Feb 2009 from VO
IELTS Request
Didn't do IELTS.
File Transfer...
Not transfered to regional office.
Med's Request
July 2010 with RPRF and another PCC.
Med's Done....
Meds - September 2010. PCC - Late Oct 2010
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
Early November 2010
VISA ISSUED...
December 2010 - Exactly days shy of 2 years since I sent in my application to CIO.
LANDED..........
2011
saki said:
Hi,

Your experience after submitting the full docs will not be counted as the lock in date is when you have submitted your docs, about part-time they may come to know if they do the employment verification otherwise you might get through it.

Cheers
Saki
see page 40 of OP6. I haven't read the whole op6 so might have gotten the context wrong but it says they will take account new experience if the applicant updates them before assessment. I think this applicant is pre-2008 applicant so their applications usually take a long time.
 

saki

VIP Member
Apr 7, 2010
3,395
353
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
Maaties said:
see page 40 of OP6. I haven't read the whole op6 so might have gotten the context wrong but it says they will take account new experience if the applicant updates them before assessment. I think this applicant is pre-2008 applicant so their applications usually take a long time.
Hi Maaties,

Yea you got it write here is the exact wording:

take into account any years of experience that occur between application and assessment,
and for which the applicant has submitted the necessary documentation


So means any experience and qualifcation done in between application submission and assessment the points will be awarded.

Also its says,

be full-time work, which, according to R80(7), is equivalent to at least 37.5 hours of paid work
per week. Full-time work experience requirement may be met by the equivalent in part-time
paid work experience, e.g. more than one part-time job held simultaneously or one or more
part-time jobs held over the equivalent of one year of full-time work
. Experience can be
calculated by adding up the number of weeks of full-time work, i.e. 37.5 hours per week in one
job or a total of at least 37.5 hours per week in more than one job, in one or more of the NOC
categories. Periods of work of less than 12 months during the 10 years immediately preceding
the date of the application may be added together and divided by 12 to calculate the number
of years


Means applicant will get atleast 2 years experience points if he/she shows 4 years of part time experience.

Cheers
saki
 

saki

VIP Member
Apr 7, 2010
3,395
353
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
Re: Please provide me some good advise

CALOVER said:
Dear experts,
I need your valuable reply.

My E-cas shows in process.
I got a letter from CHC that expressed:

You have got the pass mark 67.
According to section 76(3) the officer believes the point total is not a sufficient indicator of whether or not the applicant may become economically established in Canada.

The letter also marked on my IELTS score which is 3 Moderate and one basic.

I have 60 days to send my opinion ti the CHC.

What can I do??????

HI,

You need to resit the IELTS , VO is not satisfied with your english skills so you must improve your score and submit the new result in 60 days.

Cheers
Saki
 

canadaforall

Champion Member
Aug 11, 2009
1,607
64
Category........
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
30th January 2009
Doc's Request.
February .12 .2009
AOR Received.
30. 08.2009
IELTS Request
no
File Transfer...
16.2.2009
Med's Request
march 27th 2012
Med's Done....
5 april 2012
Interview........
waved
Passport Req..
March 27th 2912
VISA ISSUED...
12.06.2012
LANDED..........
15.09.2012.
Re: Please provide me some good advise

saki said:
HI,

You need to resit the IELTS , VO is not satisfied with your english skills so you must improve your score and submit the new result in 60 days.

Cheers
Saki

Hi Saki,
I did not write IELTS, i am also 4131 NOC. English is my first language, i specialized in English language when completed my Bachelor's Degree, i am a Master's Degree holder and i was eligible to do doctoral studies in the English language and i speak French as a second language. I also have 4 years of working experience.

I hope i will be ok. My case is still in process since June 29 2010 and no medicals yet and no communication yet.

I am waiting for medicals.

Waiting for a response.

Thanks
 

saki

VIP Member
Apr 7, 2010
3,395
353
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
Re: Please provide me some good advise

canadaforall said:
Hi Saki,
I did not write IELTS, i am also 4131 NOC. English is my first language, i specialized in English language when completed my Bachelor's Degree, i am a Master's Degree holder and i was eligible to do doctoral studies in the English language and i speak French as a second language. I also have 4 years of working experience.

I hope i will be ok. My case is still in process since June 29 2010 and no medicals yet and no communication yet.

I am waiting for medicals.

Waiting for a response.

Thanks
Hi,

If you have not submitted your IELTS result then visa officer will give you the english language points according to your qualification and what he thinks you english level is and since you have done specialization in english language and know french as well i dont think it will be a problem and you will get good points. If by any chance (hope not) visa officer is not happy he/she will ask you to submit IELTS.

Cheers
Saki
 

Language Instructor

Full Member
Oct 28, 2010
21
0
dear Saki and Maaties,
Thanks indeed for your complete answers life savors...... it's such a relief to know that what I was doing during these 3/4 years can be valueable :)

Thanks again and best of luckkkkkkkkkkk
 

Heemu

Member
Jun 23, 2010
18
0
Category........
Visa Office......
Singapore
NOC Code......
4131
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
21-12-2009
Doc's Request.
12-02-2010
AOR Received.
14-06-2010
Med's Request
14-10-2010
Med's Done....
12-11-2010
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
02-12-2010
Drooza said:
Dear Heemu
Thats good you have got medicals please can you tell me what was your ielts score?
My ielts score was -

Speaking - 7.5
Writing - 7.5
Listening - 6.5
Reading - 6