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meena

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Hi,

While revieiwng the Forum it shows that NOC 2171 is not there in teh list.
But I have seen it is still there. Please tell I am really confused as one of my NOC is 2171.

I am still in the process and would be able to submit my application in a week or so. And if one of my NOC would be 2171 will it be acceptable.

On the Site we have which shows:

Unit Group
2171 Information Systems Analysts and Consultants
Information systems analysts and consultants conduct research, develop and implement information systems development plans, policies and procedures, and provide advice on a wide range of information systems issues. They are employed in information technology consulting firms and in information technology units throughout the private and public sectors, or they may be self-employed.


Meena
 

rupeshhari

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Meena,

You can use 2171 to claim points. BUT if you are applying for FSW category 1, you cannot apply with 2171 alone. You MUST at least one year of experience in the last 10 years for a job in the list of 38. If not, then you do not qualify for FSW category 1.

In that case, look at category 2 or 3 or CSQ or PNP.
 

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Meena,

0111: Financial Managers
0213: Computer and Information Systems Managers
0311: Managers in Health Care
0631: Restaurant and Food Service Managers
0632: Accommodation Service Managers
0711: Construction Managers
1111: Financial Auditors and Accountants
2113: Geologists, Geochemists and Geophysicists
2143: Mining Engineers
2144: Geological Engineers
2145: Petroleum Engineers
3111: Specialist Physicians
3112: General Practitioners and Family Physicians
3141: Audiologists and Speech Language Pathologists
3143: Occupational Therapists
3142: Physiotherapists
3151: Head Nurses and Supervisors
3152: Registered Nurses
3215: Medical Radiation Technologists
3233: Licensed Practical Nurses
4121: University Professors
4131: College and Other Vocational Instructors
6241: Chefs
6242: Cooks
7213: Contractors and Supervisors, Pipefitting Trades
7215: Contractors and Supervisors, Carpentry Trades
7217: Contractors and Supervisors, Heavy Construction Equipment Crews
7241: Electricians (Except Industrial and Power System)
7242: Industrial Electricians
7251: Plumbers
7252: Steamfitters, Pipe fitters and Sprinkler System Installers
7265: Welders and Related Machine Operators
7312: Heavy-Duty Equipment Mechanics
7371: Crane Operators
7372: Drillers and Blasters – Surface Mining, Quarrying and Construction
8221: Supervisors, Mining and Quarrying
8222: Supervisors, Oil and Gas Drilling and Service
9212: Supervisors, Petroleum, Gas and Chemical Processing and Utilities

This is the list where you need to have min 1 year work exp to qualify....!If you have any of these, you can also show other NOC which are not there in this list for additional work exp

Source: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/apply-who-instructions.asp#list

Best of Luck
 

meena

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Hi,

For Computer Professionals Category is: 0213: Computer and Information Systems Managers

My current profile is Sr. Software Tester so accordingly my NOC is: 2283

My previous profile was Analyst so NOC is: 2171

other NOC is : 2282

So I think I shoudl be applicable.

Please reply.
 

rupeshhari

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IELTS Request
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Med's Request
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No Meena.

0213 is not a category. It is a NOC just like 2283 and 2171 but with different responsibilities. 2283 and 2171 doesn't come under 0213. Look at the duties of of 0213, if you do not perform those responsibilities, then you are not 0213.

If you do not have one of the jobs in the list of 38, you are wasting your time for FSW1.
 

meena

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In my Appoitmnet letter it shows as Sr. Software Tester but I am handling lots of duties which 0213 states.

Please tell if I mention the duties which I follow will this work.

Meena
 

rupeshhari

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Doc's Request.
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AOR Received.
Feb 2009 from VO
IELTS Request
Didn't do IELTS.
File Transfer...
Not transfered to regional office.
Med's Request
July 2010 with RPRF and another PCC.
Med's Done....
Meds - September 2010. PCC - Late Oct 2010
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
Early November 2010
VISA ISSUED...
December 2010 - Exactly days shy of 2 years since I sent in my application to CIO.
LANDED..........
2011
this is just my opinion.
If you are not a manager with managerial responsibilities, then chances are low.
Just to be sure, maybe you can ask people on this forum with the description of your job to see if they think you could be 0213.
 

meena

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Hey,

I am really tensed now. I was preparing all my documents and Forms according to FSW-1.

Please guide me someone.

Meena
 

New2Canada

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what guide do you want? By telling the seniors that you are a Sr. Software Developer, no one can say whether you qualify for FSW1 or not. Listen to what Rupeshri said. Write down your duties on this forum and maybe someone will be kind enough to evaluate that for you. No one can guide you with the information you have given thus far. If you don't want to post your duties here, maybe you can PM some seniors and ask them.
 

meena

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My JOb Role includes:

My Job Role includes:
*Handling a team of 4 Test Engineers.
*To Prepare testing strategy and to develop test cases and plans for system changes
*Doing complete Manual Testing for Inhouse Web Applications for different Clients.
*Preparing the Bug Report and involve in the Project till it becomes Bug Free and ready to be lived.
* Interacting with clients to discuss system requirements, specifications, timelines


Please see if this works and lies in NOC-0213
 

meena

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Waiting for Replies.

Meena
 

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hi!!

There are cases (rejected) in which job title doesn’t reflect “manager” but job description is same as manager.

Job title and job description both must match/reflect with 0213 which says “computer and information system manager”. MANAGER is key word.

The implementation duties of subordinate may be 80% same as duties of manager. But the difference will be in planning, decision making, leading etc.

That’s what they want LEADER / MANAGER


meena said:
Waiting for Replies.

Meena
 

meena

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Well I am working as a Leader but on papers it is Sr. Tester.

Please suggest what should I do.

Meena
 

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File Transfer...
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Med's Request
14-02-2012
Med's Done....
16-04-2012
Some time reference letter only mentioned job title, joining date, performance etc.

If reference letter from your employer describes the detailed duties you performed, than my personal opinion is “it should work”

But the best thing is don’t hesitate, don’t waste time just apply & prey

meena said:
Well I am working as a Leader but on papers it is Sr. Tester.

Please suggest what should I do.

Meena
 

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as far as i understand, the key main roles for 0213 are like managing staff, authority to recruit new staff, developing and implementing procedures and policies, planning organizing evaluating team activities and IT systems etc etc...

if in your current role as a Sr. Software Test Engineer, you are performing above roles also, then try your luck and send your application. nobody will be able to give you a definite answer if this will be accepted or not but only CIU, Sydney.

on the other hand, if you claim NOC 2171, then that will be a straight rejection because 2171 does not fall under 38 eligible occupations. as you also understand, for computer professionals, only one NOC code falls under the list of 38 eligible occupations and that is NOC 0213. NOC 2171 can only help you claim more points under the experience factor, that also if one of your other NOC codes on your application is 0213 and CIU is happy enough to accept your application.

lots of prayers and best wishes for you.