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[soj]

yemkik,u are almost there.keep ur fingers crossed.

 

[dreamteam]

soj,how is the new experience out there,hope u r coping well?

 

[tito]

Way above that range sir, the quota for Accra has hovered around 9,000 visas for a few years now. What CiC has been doing is to play around with the allocation of the visas among the various classes. Emphasis is being laid on promoting Family class and the Provincial nominee schemes at mo, as the CiC believes that applicants under such categories integrate quicker into the Canadian system. At some point in the past, the refugee class was allotted a greater share in sympathetic response to the wars going on in some countries along the west african coast.

Below is the number of PR visas issued to Nigerians from 1999.........2008

Nigeria 916 1,088 1,325 1,281 931 1,369 2,034 2,481 2,255 1,837

Those are the statistics from the CiC website. The Accra visa quotas can be assessed on some editions of the lexbase journal.

I don't think the situation is as bad as it was two years ago. One sure way of reducing the wait time which you mentioned is increasing the visa quotas, another way is by ensuring that the number of eligible applicants waiting in the queue does not increase and the latter is exactly what CiC has done under bill C-50. It was an all comers affair prior to C-50, with quite a large no of invalid applications clogging up the system at Accra. Ineligible applicants and invalid applications now get weeded out at CIO-Sydney, thereby freeing up valuable processing time for Accra officials under the skilled worker class.

Anyone who had applied under the old rules, may now reapply under the new rules(c-50) provided they have experience in any of the “list of 38” jobs.

ok, thanks for the figures but a total of 1,837 for all the PR visas for Nigeria (skilled, family, ) is nothing to be happy about. You need to compare that figure to that of number of applicants and also consider a conservative estimate of average of 4 family members per skilled applicant to get the true picture.
Making this academic exercise more interesting, let us assume that the 1,837 PR visas is for skilled applicants alone, this number will be snapped up by just 400-500 applicants and their family members! So you see where I am coming from with my 500-600 estimate??? It is even worsened by the fact that the number of family/spousal applicants have gone up over the years and encroaching on the few PR visas available!!

Would like to see what the data looks like after operating under the new rules; although the new rule weeds out many people with the restriction based on occupation, it cannot have the kind of effect I would like to see especially if "river is still rough in naija".

For the benefit of readers, the link here provide the data for permanent residents by source country: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/statistics/facts2008/permanent/10.asp

 

[oceana]

oceana!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! long time,have u landed there?where?hope u r good,so hard to read from u online.
quick one, where did u do ur medicals, vi or yaba? how early do they send the specimen to Paris?
thanks

Dreamteam: Not landed yet. I'm fine thanks, and you?.
We had our medicals done separately, one of us had it done in VI, and the others in UK. I don't think the DMPs are allowed to hold on endlessly to applicants test results, and this is why
1. The xray has to be interpreted by the Regional med officer within a month of the test, otherwise it has to be retaken and ofcourse the applicant will raise some dust if asked to retake xray and pay a second time if it turns out the DMP had wasted time in sending it.
2. The DMP handbook insists that DMPs have to respond to CiC requests sharpish.
3. They are also allowed to charge courier fees to ensure prompt dispatch of test results.

It is for that reasons that DMPs shy away from booking in applicants for IMEs without having their med forms to hand. It is not uncommon for applicants to request for tests bookings in anticipation of medical docs coming thru the post, if a dmp books in an applicant for med tests and the med forms fail to arrive on time, the DMP cannot forward the test results and the applicant would have to pay for another xray(GBP100) after the first one expires. This was what happenned to that applicant you sent a message to, who had to wait for so long after taking her meds on the other site...she retook the xray, paid another fee and she got her PPR a week after she took the second xray. For some funny parts of the world - it could also leave room for abuse.

DMPs are always being assessed, and they go thru rigorous screening exercise before getting licensed, so they wouldn't want to mess up. Some of their staff might want to take the piss every now and again if they see how desperate applicants coming for test are, doing yes sir yes sir for a bloody maiguard, nurse, or cleaner working for a DMP. lol. They make so much money out of it - you can just do a simple calc to illustrate this.

Average of 1900 PRs every year multiplied by say 25k/head
1900PRs x 25000 = 47.5million naira
Assumming the 2 DMps in lagos have at least 90% of the naija market to themselves, with say 10% going to Abuja.
.9 x 47.5M = 42.75M
if you then split that in two = 21M
and thats almost 2M monthly for each DMP. That's just to illustrate, its by no means accurate.

and thats just for PR alone, factor in students, visitors, temporary workers, live-in-caregivers etc and you begin to see how lucrative it is for the DMPs. The steady income stream/cashflow is a life saver for them. Other clinics in naija must be green with envy when they look at the VI and Yaba DMPs.

 

[oceana]

ok, thanks for the figures but a total of 1,837 for all the PR visas for Nigeria (skilled, family, ) is nothing to be happy about. You need to compare that figure to that of number of applicants and also consider a conservative estimate of average of 4 family members per skilled applicant to get the true picture.
Making this academic exercise more interesting, let us assume that the 1,837 PR visas is for skilled applicants alone, this number will be snapped up by just 400-500 applicants and their family members! So you see where I am coming from with my 500-600 estimate??? It is even worsened by the fact that the number of family/spousal applicants have gone up over the years and encroaching on the few PR visas available!!

Would like to see what the data looks like after operating under the new rules; although the new rule weeds out many people with the restriction based on occupation, it cannot have the kind of effect I would like to see especially if "river is still rough in naija".

For the benefit of readers, the link here provide the data for permanent residents by source country: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/statistics/facts2008/permanent/10.asp

Tito, thanks for the clarification. Your initial post just said "accra centre" and "600 visas" thereby leaving room for one to assume that you meant 600 visas for all applicants under Accra. Much clearer now, and i'm sure others who might have been stunned by that initial figure may now begin to ease the creases on their foreheads.

It all depends on how you look at it. Someone who has had to wait for upwards of 5yrs+ may not be happy about it, but others who, by sheer luck, happened to be experienced in the list of 38 would eternally be grateful - i being one of them. Canada is offering within a year what it has taken some 6years to acquire in the Uk and US. Thing is, if we compare what obtained few years back with what obtains now - the wait time was on the way up as applications were increasing under the previous arrangements, but now it won't get any longer but would begin to decrease gradually.

2ndly, if one now looks at the options out there for would be 9ja migrants - The UK has practically shut its door with its constant tinkering of its HSMP or tier whatever its called these days. No M.SC, no show. No maintenance funds in your name for 90days or more, no show. Even when you scale thru those, renewal is another uphill task as goalpost is being constantly shifted by the authorities. The US also have a limit on their annual kalokalo green card, and going in as a student on H1 offers no assurances of a transition towards gaining the green card. But this is where Canada trumps all the others, there are lots of options here, lots of shortcuts, Intl students have a far better chance of transiting into PR. Nurses may go in as a live in caregiver. List of 38 is there. PNP is there. And my heart bleeds each time i remember how Nigerians blew their chances under the Manitoba PNP, some Nigerians fought hard to for the Nomination license, they got it, then allegations and counter allegations started flying in from all angles to the manitoba provincial government about favoritism, corruptions, tribalism etc(yoruba vs Ibo Vs Middle belt) and straightaway they revoked the license - i think our problem is just that of greed and ignorance. The phillipinos milked theirs and utilised it judiciously, but we blew ours.

Thanks for taking the time to share your experiences with folks on here, i have benefited from one or two of the tips you've been sharing. On the G-license, did you have any other license for another country apart from 9jas?

 

[dreamteam]

oceana and tito thank the Lord for u guys men,u have so much knowledge which is where real wealth is anyway not surprised u are all moving to a place where knowledge is rewarded.manitoba? well the Lord help some of us still lagging behind in knowledge,those who gain from these balkanisation of the nation are not the ones on their way to Canada,they've forgotten that like soludo said some years ago that we get abt $4b from our bros abroad thru western Union and tht he feared that once this generation goes,we will lose such contrib ution to our GDP,cos those kids will only be niger by name not by affliation.men let's just keep going on.

 

[igbehinadara]

Helo evry naija,

I say HAPPY NEW YEAR to you all and may the good lord answer each and evry1 of us whose allpication is in process or about to apply.

To Tito,Soj,oceanic and all those who have contributed their wealth of knowledge and experience,l say God bless and increase you as you share with all naijas.I applied in 2004 and hoping things will move faster this year by his grace.Let keep the spirit of oneness and continue to be there for one another irrespective of our ethnic group.

I love you all and God bless.

Ig

 

[tito]

Tito, thanks for the clarification. Your initial post just said "accra centre" and "600 visas" thereby leaving room for one to assume that you meant 600 visas for all applicants under Accra. Much clearer now, and i'm sure others who might have been stunned by that initial figure may now begin to ease the creases on their foreheads.

It all depends on how you look at it. Someone who has had to wait for upwards of 5yrs+ may not be happy about it, but others who, by sheer luck, happened to be experienced in the list of 38 would eternally be grateful - i being one of them. Canada is offering within a year what it has taken some 6years to acquire in the Uk and US. Thing is, if we compare what obtained few years back with what obtains now - the wait time was on the way up as applications were increasing under the previous arrangements, but now it won't get any longer but would begin to decrease gradually.

2ndly, if one now looks at the options out there for would be 9ja migrants - The UK has practically shut its door with its constant tinkering of its HSMP or tier whatever its called these days. No M.SC, no show. No maintenance funds in your name for 90days or more, no show. Even when you scale thru those, renewal is another uphill task as goalpost is being constantly shifted by the authorities. The US also have a limit on their annual kalokalo green card, and going in as a student on H1 offers no assurances of a transition towards gaining the green card. But this is where Canada trumps all the others, there are lots of options here, lots of shortcuts, Intl students have a far better chance of transiting into PR. Nurses may go in as a live in caregiver. List of 38 is there. PNP is there. And my heart bleeds each time i remember how Nigerians blew their chances under the Manitoba PNP, some Nigerians fought hard to for the Nomination license, they got it, then allegations and counter allegations started flying in from all angles to the manitoba provincial government about favoritism, corruptions, tribalism etc(yoruba vs Ibo Vs Middle belt) and straightaway they revoked the license - i think our problem is just that of greed and ignorance. The phillipinos milked theirs and utilised it judiciously, but we blew ours.

Thanks for taking the time to share your experiences with folks on here, i have benefited from one or two of the tips you've been sharing. On the G-license, did you have any other license for another country apart from 9jas?

Wow! Never heard or read about the Manitoba PNP and all the wars! Why am I not surprised at the foolishness of man?

Nope, didn't have any other license aside that from naija; actually was not going to get that of Canada too but for the need to get auto insurance and plating the vehicle. I used my international drivers permit from naija all through the drivetest strike in Ontario.

 

[oceana]

Wow! Never heard or read about the Manitoba PNP and all the wars! Why am I not surprised at the foolishness of man?

Nope, didn't have any other license aside that from naija; actually was not going to get that of Canada too but for the need to get auto insurance and plating the vehicle. I used my international drivers permit from naija all through the drivetest strike in Ontario.

That's very good. Most people i know had to wait upwards of 2 years to get your full grade of G - license, and had to endure orisirisi funny restrictions like passenger limits, night time driving ban etc during the long wait.

 

[Right]

Yemkik,tito,badmus,abeniokin,fathertee,barkinado et al.

Please i need your urgent advice/reply.

How do they calculate marks for education?

This is my qualifications: HND (Acctcy), M. Sc (Finance), MBA (Finance) and ACIB (Professional qualification of the Institute of Bankers of Nigeria)

Do I stand to get the 25 points for education? Do I need a letter saying my HND is BSc equevalent?

I just want to be sure and on the right track.

Thank you for your promt anticipated reply and comment

Regards,

9ija o ni baje o

 

[Sir K]

Hi everyone,
This is a nice thread, keep it going.
Cheers

 

[Right]

My bos and sis,

Am still expecting your advise pls..

regards.

 

[Oloye]

Right,
If you add up the total years of full education and it amounts to 17 years with these qualifications, go ahead and claim 25. That is what you are entitled to.

Oloye

 

[barsindoo]

Right,

I wan concur with Baba Oloye. If you have 17 yrs of full time education plus all your listed pali then you can claim 25points no shaking.

Barsindoo

 

[Right]

Oloye,

Thanks so much for your prompt reply. O tojo meta, Have you gotten it yet or you are already in Canada? whatever the case, I wish you the best of luck.

I guess it goes like this:
primary education 6yrs
secondary 5yrs
HND 4yrs
MSc 2yrs
17yrs

Thanks and God Bless.

Second issue is that of my baby I posted earlier, He was born in USA and di bobo na yanke pikin, do I need to inform the CIC Accra now or when they ask me to update???

Please reply.

Regards,