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New rule coming from 21 February 2015

Hamid khan

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Notice – Changes to strengthen employer accountability under the International Mobility Program
February 9, 2015 —

Employer compliance system and fee
Starting February 21, 2015, employers hiring foreign nationals who are exempt from the Labour Market Impact Assessment (LMIA) process will be required to submit information about their business or organization, the Offer of Employment form, and pay a fee to Citizenship and Immigration Canada.
As of that date, a foreign national who is exempt from the LMIA process will not be able to get an employer-specific work permit if their employer has not submitted the required information and paid the fee before the work permit application is submitted.
The employer compliance fee has been set at $230 and must be paid online. The fees collected will offset the cost of introducing robust employer compliance activities featuring inspections of thousands of employers.
When an inspection finds that an employer is non-compliant, the employer could face an administrative monetary penalty, a ban from hiring foreign workers and, in serious cases, a criminal investigation and prosecution. The adoption of this system will mean that all employers, whether they are hiring LMIA-exempt foreign nationals or temporary foreign workers through the LMIA process that has determined that there are no Canadians available for the job, will face the same level of scrutiny in their hiring and treatment of foreign workers.
The employer compliance fee does not apply to employers hiring foreign nationals who have open work permits. Open work permits allow the holder to work for any Canadian employer.
 

happygarcha

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Will this happen in PNP also... M in bc and currently working as a assistant manager so will they do that new thing with my employer too... Or its pnly for new ones...
I Am an international graduate who have open work permit and I already got a permanent job offer letter from my employer and going to apply bc pnp in few days will this effect me in any way?

Thanks
 

happygarcha

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Jan 15, 2011
1,282
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British Columbia
Category........
PNP
Visa Office......
Sydney
NOC Code......
0621
Job Offer........
Yes
App. Filed.......
11 May 2016 | App Received: May 16, 2016
Doc's Request.
November 18, 2016 December 16, 2016. Updated Schedule A request
Nomination.....
Approved
AOR Received.
24th August 2016
IELTS Request
N/A
File Transfer...
N/A
Med's Request
May 02, 2017
Med's Done....
May 08, 2017
Interview........
N/A
Passport Req..
BG: 20 September, 2017 | DM: 02 December, 2017 | PPR: 07 December, 2017 (@5.30 PM Pacific Standard Time)
VISA ISSUED...
20-12-2017
LANDED..........
11-01-2018
The following information found on cic.gc.ca and they are the original owner of this post and they have right to change it... Any kind of information you get after reading this post that will be totally your knowledge I won't be LIABLE that what you get and what you have done after reading this post.... Please refer to cic website for further information... Thanks

Starting February 21, 2015, employers hiring foreign nationals who are exempt from the Labour Market Impact Assessment (LMIA) process will be required to submit information about their business or organization, the Offer of Employment form, and pay a fee to Citizenship and Immigration Canada.

As of that date, a foreign national who is exempt from the LMIA process will not be able to get an employer-specific work permit if their employer has not submitted the required information and paid the fee before the work permit application is submitted.

The employer compliance fee has been set at $230 and must be paid online. The fees collected will offset the cost of introducing robust employer compliance activities featuring inspections of thousands of employers.

When an inspection finds that an employer is non-compliant, the employer could face an administrative monetary penalty, a ban from hiring foreign workers and, in serious cases, a criminal investigation and prosecution. The adoption of this system will mean that all employers, whether they are hiring LMIA-exempt foreign nationals or temporary foreign workers through the LMIA process that has determined that there are no Canadians available for the job, will face the same level of scrutiny in their hiring and treatment of foreign workers.

The employer compliance fee does not apply to employers hiring foreign nationals who have open work permits. Open work permits allow the holder to work for any Canadian employer.
 

liisa227

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Feb 25, 2014
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Category........
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CPP-Ottawa
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30-06-2014
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04-02-2014
AOR Received.
27-08-2014
IELTS Request
not required
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27-08-2014
Med's Done....
07-10-2014
happygarcha said:
The following information found on cic.gc.ca and they are the original owner of this post and they have right to change it... Any kind of information you get after reading this post that will be totally your knowledge I won't be LIABLE that what you get and what you have done after reading this post.... Please refer to cic website for further information... Thanks

Starting February 21, 2015, employers hiring foreign nationals who are exempt from the Labour Market Impact Assessment (LMIA) process will be required to submit information about their business or organization, the Offer of Employment form, and pay a fee to Citizenship and Immigration Canada.

As of that date, a foreign national who is exempt from the LMIA process will not be able to get an employer-specific work permit if their employer has not submitted the required information and paid the fee before the work permit application is submitted.

The employer compliance fee has been set at $230 and must be paid online. The fees collected will offset the cost of introducing robust employer compliance activities featuring inspections of thousands of employers.

When an inspection finds that an employer is non-compliant, the employer could face an administrative monetary penalty, a ban from hiring foreign workers and, in serious cases, a criminal investigation and prosecution. The adoption of this system will mean that all employers, whether they are hiring LMIA-exempt foreign nationals or temporary foreign workers through the LMIA process that has determined that there are no Canadians available for the job, will face the same level of scrutiny in their hiring and treatment of foreign workers.

The employer compliance fee does not apply to employers hiring foreign nationals who have open work permits. Open work permits allow the holder to work for any Canadian employer.
In addition to all of this, please note that while the Employer Compliance Fee does not apply to open work permits, CIC is also introducing an additional fee to open work permits.

So anyone applying for an open work permit will be required to pay $155 processing fee, plus another $100 to "offset the cost of new initiatives to improve data collection on the role of open work permit holders in the Canadian labour market, as well as increased promotional activities to encourage open work permit holders to apply for permanent residence".
 

Hamid khan

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Apr 29, 2013
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I will apply work permit extension as a cook
I came 1.7 months before via LMO
My question when I will apply renew my WP do My employer need to pay $230
 

ragluf

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Hamid khan said:
I will apply work permit extension as a cook
I came 1.7 months before via LMO
My question when I will apply renew my WP do My employer need to pay $230
See this:
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/big-changes-to-how-wps-are-processed-starting-february-21-please-read-t269874.0.html;msg4019303#msg4019303

This answers your question.

.../atb
 

wang tzu

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Jul 29, 2014
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My work permit will expire 30 june 2015.
Im still waiting my AOR from CIC since my file reached 23 OCT.
Shoul i apply new permit right now??
Or wait AOR ??
 

R1982

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Sep 13, 2014
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Vancouver BC
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?
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Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
PNP-30Apr.14
Doc's Request.
18Oct.2014
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11NOV.2014
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30April2015
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06May2015
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KAURENOUGHTOKNOW said:
im in same situation as well :(
HI FRIEND
Which date your application received by CIC NS, Sydney? and Which Province has nominated you ?
check other formula CEC category. Applicant's of Oct.2014 month now they start to get AOR from CIC.
wish you good luck......!!!!
 

happygarcha

Champion Member
Jan 15, 2011
1,282
241
British Columbia
Category........
PNP
Visa Office......
Sydney
NOC Code......
0621
Job Offer........
Yes
App. Filed.......
11 May 2016 | App Received: May 16, 2016
Doc's Request.
November 18, 2016 December 16, 2016. Updated Schedule A request
Nomination.....
Approved
AOR Received.
24th August 2016
IELTS Request
N/A
File Transfer...
N/A
Med's Request
May 02, 2017
Med's Done....
May 08, 2017
Interview........
N/A
Passport Req..
BG: 20 September, 2017 | DM: 02 December, 2017 | PPR: 07 December, 2017 (@5.30 PM Pacific Standard Time)
VISA ISSUED...
20-12-2017
LANDED..........
11-01-2018
liisa227 said:
In addition to all of this, please note that while the Employer Compliance Fee does not apply to open work permits, CIC is also introducing an additional fee to open work permits.

So anyone applying for an open work permit will be required to pay $155 processing fee, plus another $100 to "offset the cost of new initiatives to improve data collection on the role of open work permit holders in the Canadian labour market, as well as increased promotional activities to encourage open work permit holders to apply for permanent residence".
i want to know that I already have open post graduate work permit (almost one year passed) and already have an employer working there.... will this effect me in any way? or this is only for new work permits ?
 

Mbgirlfriend

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Nov 3, 2014
358
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Category........
Visa Office......
Sydney, Nova Scotia
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
April 19, 2015
AOR Received.
July 9, 2015
Med's Request
January 19, 2016
Med's Done....
February 1,2016
Passport Req..
April 15,2016
VISA ISSUED...
April 27,2016
LANDED..........
April 28,2016
happygarcha said:
i want to know that I already have open post graduate work permit (almost one year passed) and already have an employer working there.... will this effect me in any way? or this is only for new work permits ?
I am wondering about this too for my boyfirend. He is already working for his employer on an open work Permit (IEC) but it will expire in April and with his PNP nomination and no AOR yet he can only get the employer specific WP. This is the statement that makes it unclear "The employer compliance fee does not apply to employers hiring foreign nationals who have open work permits. Open work permits allow the holder to work for any Canadian employer.". Because he is already employed by his employer and got that job with an Open WP will this make a difference?

What is so annoying is that my BF already requested the Support Letter from the MPNP office but it looks like that will take a few weeks. He had just requested his LOE last week and got that Tuesday. We didn't start sooner because it says on the MPNP site not to bother asking for a support letter until 3 months before your current WP expires.

We went to the PNP office and they were unaware of this change my bf showed the girl the update on his phone. She left and came back with an answer that it didn't affect him. But it was clear in her explanation that she wasn't talking about the same thing. She said there is no fee to the employer and the fee is only for open work permits. When I tried to explain that the notice (that she had already read) clearly states a fee to the employer she got very rude and said "I already told you that there is no fee to the employer and that he will be fine to get a WP with just the support letter"

I asked her about how long it would take to get the letter and she said there was no rush because he has until middle of April on his current WP and then talked about implied status. I told her that he is on an IEC visas and can not get implied status and she told me he could. I tried to explain that he couldn't get implied status because it is a rule on IEC visas and she was very rude again and said she didn't know where I read this but that a PNP nominee can get implied status on any kind of WP. When I tried to speak up again she cut me off and said "I already told you he can have implied status he is PNP nominee"

This woman was very rude and clearly thought she knew everything but didn't. When we asked her if my bf will loose his PNP nomination if he doesn't get the new WP and has to quit his job
she replied with- "PNP has nothing to do with WP that is a separate thing"
I said- I know its separate but will not having a job affect his PNP nomination?"
She said -"I already told you PNP has nothing to do with a WP its a separate thing"

Was was even more annoying is that she had an accent so clearly she had immigrated to Canada at some point and must have known stressful it is. She was rude and clearly did not know anything but seemed to think she did.
 

Phil89

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Sep 11, 2014
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Mbgirlfriend said:
I am wondering about this too for my boyfirend. He is already working for his employer on an open work Permit (IEC) but it will expire in April and with his PNP nomination and no AOR yet he can only get the employer specific WP. This is the statement that makes it unclear "The employer compliance fee does not apply to employers hiring foreign nationals who have open work permits. Open work permits allow the holder to work for any Canadian employer.". Because he is already employed by his employer and got that job with an Open WP will this make a difference?

What is so annoying is that my BF already requested the Support Letter from the MPNP office but it looks like that will take a few weeks. He had just requested his LOE last week and got that Tuesday. We didn't start sooner because it says on the MPNP site not to bother asking for a support letter until 3 months before your current WP expires.

We went to the PNP office and they were unaware of this change my bf showed the girl the update on his phone. She left and came back with an answer that it didn't affect him. But it was clear in her explanation that she wasn't talking about the same thing. She said there is no fee to the employer and the fee is only for open work permits. When I tried to explain that the notice (that she had already read) clearly states a fee to the employer she got very rude and said "I already told you that there is no fee to the employer and that he will be fine to get a WP with just the support letter"

I asked her about how long it would take to get the letter and she said there was no rush because he has until middle of April on his current WP and then talked about implied status. I told her that he is on an IEC visas and can not get implied status and she told me he could. I tried to explain that he couldn't get implied status because it is a rule on IEC visas and she was very rude again and said she didn't know where I read this but that a PNP nominee can get implied status on any kind of WP. When I tried to speak up again she cut me off and said "I already told you he can have implied status he is PNP nominee"

This woman was very rude and clearly thought she knew everything but didn't. When we asked her if my bf will loose his PNP nomination if he doesn't get the new WP and has to quit his job
she replied with- "PNP has nothing to do with WP that is a separate thing"
I said- I know its separate but will not having a job affect his PNP nomination?"
She said -"I already told you PNP has nothing to do with a WP its a separate thing"

Was was even more annoying is that she had an accent so clearly she had immigrated to Canada at some point and must have known stressful it is. She was rude and clearly did not know anything but seemed to think she did.
Why don't you apply online for the closed WP RIGHT NOW before the new rule using the nomination certificate??
 

ragluf

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Mbgirlfriend said:
I am wondering about this too for my boyfirend. He is already working for his employer on an open work Permit (IEC) but it will expire in April and with his PNP nomination and no AOR yet he can only get the employer specific WP. This is the statement that makes it unclear "The employer compliance fee does not apply to employers hiring foreign nationals who have open work permits. Open work permits allow the holder to work for any Canadian employer.". Because he is already employed by his employer and got that job with an Open WP will this make a difference?
Hi,

It does not apply to your BFs current WP.

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/international-mobility-program-employer-compliance-system-and-new-fees-t269753.0.html;msg4017003#msg4017003

This applies only to WP applicants AFTER 21 Feb.

If your BF (as well as applicants for WPs under LMIA-exempt classes and open work permits), applies for a WP AFTER 21 Feb, then these new fees and employer document requirements apply.

liisa227 also explained as such:
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/big-changes-to-how-wps-are-processed-starting-february-21-please-read-t269874.0.html;msg4019303#msg4019303

.../atb
 

Mbgirlfriend

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Sydney, Nova Scotia
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App. Filed.......
April 19, 2015
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July 9, 2015
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January 19, 2016
Med's Done....
February 1,2016
Passport Req..
April 15,2016
VISA ISSUED...
April 27,2016
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April 28,2016
Phil89 said:
Why don't you apply online for the closed WP RIGHT NOW before the new rule using the nomination certificate??
We thought about that, but the processing time will make things close . He is required to give his boss one month notice. If he gets declined then he likely would not be able to give him that. I suppose its worth a chance if he ends up being a few days short of being about to give his boss one month notice. He just doesn't want to throw away a perfectly good reference for by leaving his boss hanging. There is a chance he will get decline even on line with out the support letter. But maybe he would be more likely to get approved on line with out the support letter than at the border without the support letter.

The thing we are really most worried about is if he does have to leave his job because of not having a WP then he could loose his PNP nomination. He could find another job especially once he gets the AOR comes and him not having a pay cheque for a while wouldn't really hurt us. But if he looses his nomination then we have to start the whole process over again.

Worst case for us would be he looses his nomination and goes on visitor visa. Then we decided this time I would sponsor him as a common law. We didn't want to take this rout before because we didn't feel our relationship was at that point even if legally we could have. Now we are both comfortable with this.

He could also apply to the EE and would have just over 400 points. Right now that is low however eventually I am sure 400 will be a good score. I just have a feeling that it will be a year before they start taking people with those kind of scores. I think right now they are only taking the best of the best until they catch up on years of backlog.

He could also re-apply to MPNP again and would likely get another nomination even without a job because of his experience in Manitoba and because he scores high on their assessment.

If he doesn't loose his PNP nomination then he can get an open work permit when he gets his AOR and with that there isn't the $220 fee for the employer. He could find another job or maybe try to get this one back if by then they haven't replaced him.

Its just that we were almost at the sit back and wait part of things (we have sent in his application to CIC). If this new rule had just a few weeks more before starting then he would have his support letter and a new WP good for two years. Now we may have to start all over or at the worst or at the least (if he doesn't loose his nomination) he will have to sit at home and wait for AOR and then look for another job.
 

KAURENOUGHTOKNOW

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R1982 said:
HI FRIEND
Which date your application received by CIC NS, Sydney? and Which Province has nominated you ?
check other formula CEC category. Applicant's of Oct.2014 month now they start to get AOR from CIC.
wish you good luck......!!!!
Hi R1982
CIC received my file on 26 oct . and BC nominated me . My work permit is about to expire in May . But still no AOR :(