New Member! :) CAn someone help me?!

[KOUKLA75]

Hi!

I'm new and I stumbled on the forum just now after days of trying to get some info! (Leon :I landed on your replies, tried to add you as a buddy cos you seem to know your way around 8)but I don't know how this buddy thing works and I cannot PM u Cheesy )

Here is my case...

and its complicated...! :-[

I have been living in Greece for a while (I am Greek-Canadian born and raised in Mtl)

I want to return and want to sponsor my Boyfriend, we have been residing together over 3 yrs.

He is not Greek, he is Albanian, but living in Greece. After days of Google-ing I cannot find the exact detailed info I need and I'm getting freaked out and stressed! Cry

1. I don't live in Canada "now" so I don't have a job "now" in order to show I have $ to support him(I have a place to stay there at my parents- for both of us)

2. Visas to Canada for Albanians are done in Italy (from what I read), I contacted them by email and they said they cannot reply individually to all emails. OK

3. My questions: How does he get a Visa? If he does can we both leave for Canada and do the sponsorship with him living there with me? ( I won't obviously have any income for the last year.. showing) If he gets a Visa how long does the actual Tourist./ Visitor Visa last?( I THINK 6mths) can he renew it?

I know, I have TOO many questions and I have Absolutely NO idea on how or where to begin. You all look like you know the procedures I hope someone can kindly help me!

Thanks! Smiley

Kathy

 

[bonitanita]

Hi!

I'm new and I stumbled on the forum just now after days of trying to get some info! (Leon :I landed on your replies, tried to add you as a buddy cos you seem to know your way around 8)but I don't know how this buddy thing works and I cannot PM u Cheesy )

Here is my case...

and its complicated...! :-[

I have been living in Greece for a while (I am Greek-Canadian born and raised in Mtl)

I want to return and want to sponsor my Boyfriend, we have been residing together over 3 yrs.

He is not Greek, he is Albanian, but living in Greece. After days of Google-ing I cannot find the exact detailed info I need and I'm getting freaked out and stressed! Cry

1. I don't live in Canada "now" so I don't have a job "now" in order to show I have $ to support him(I have a place to stay there at my parents- for both of us)

2. Visas to Canada for Albanians are done in Italy (from what I read), I contacted them by email and they said they cannot reply individually to all emails. OK

3. My questions: How does he get a Visa? If he does can we both leave for Canada and do the sponsorship with him living there with me? ( I won't obviously have any income for the last year.. showing) If he gets a Visa how long does the actual Tourist./ Visitor Visa last?( I THINK 6mths) can he renew it?

I know, I have TOO many questions and I have Absolutely NO idea on how or where to begin. You all look like you know the procedures I hope someone can kindly help me!

Thanks! Smiley

Kathy

My boyfriend and I were in the same situation. He is Canadian. I am English. We were living in Korea.

We came to Canada and I came on a tourist visa. He found a job and now we are in the process of getting our papers together. I had to extend my tourist visa.

If your boyfriend comes with you, he can come on a tourist visa and then extend it while he is here.

If you manage to put in your papers before his visa expires, then he will be eligible to stay until you hear back.

For the record - there is no minimum income required for sponsoring your spouse. You will have to show how you are supporting yourselves and show that you plan to establish yourself here again.

Hope that helps

 

[canadianwoman]

1. I don't live in Canada "now" so I don't have a job "now" in order to show I have $ to support him(I have a place to stay there at my parents- for both of us)

You don't need a job to sponsor him. You do need to show the visa officer plans for how you two will support yourselves once he lands in Canada. So you include in your application things like proof of savings or investments, a letter from your parents stating they will let you live in their home until you both get a good job, an outline of what jobs you expect to get and how you will search for them, any qualifications for a job your boyfriend might have, etc. If you get a job after you have sent in the application, you can then send proof of this to the embassy in Rome, once you get a file number, to be added to your file.

3. My questions: How does he get a Visa? If he does can we both leave for Canada and do the sponsorship with him living there with me? ( I won't obviously have any income for the last year.. showing) If he gets a Visa how long does the actual Tourist./ Visitor Visa last?( I THINK 6mths) can he renew it?

He can apply for a tourist visa. Once in Canada he can apply to extend it. You can then apply for his PR visa as your common-law spouse; when he is in Canada you can sponsor him inland or outland. Or you could apply to sponsor him right now while you are living in Greece. This will have to be an outland application. Canadian citizens can sponsor a spouse or common-law partner while they are living outside Canada, but you then have to include proof that you will return to Canada when he gets the PR visa.

The first post in the Family Class Sponsorship forum by Leon gives an overview of everything you need to know.

 

[KOUKLA75]

Hi Girls and thanks so much :-* !

However I added this post also under the Spousal Sponsorship thread and I got a few answers there also, missmymexi gave me the following text that she gathered(and I had read) on Canada's website:

"To be a sponsor:
•You and the sponsored relative must sign a sponsorship agreement that commits you to provide financial support for your relative, if necessary. This agreement also says the person becoming a permanent resident will make every effort to support her or himself.
•You must provide financial support for a spouse, common-law or conjugal partner for three years from the date they become a permanent resident.
•You must provide financial support for a dependent child for 10 years, or until the child turns 25, whichever comes first.

You may not be eligible to be a sponsor if you:
•failed to provide financial support you agreed to when you signed a sponsorship agreement to sponsor another relative in the past
•defaulted on a court-ordered support order, such as alimony or child support
•receive government financial assistance for reasons other than a disability
•were convicted of a violent criminal offence, any offence against a relative or any sexual offence—depending on circumstances such as the nature of the offence, how long ago it occurred and whether a pardon was issued
•defaulted on an immigration loan—late or missed payments
•are in prison or
•have declared bankruptcy and have not been released from it yet.
"

As for the embassy of Rome, that is just for his Visitor Visa :-X so he can enter Canada, if he does, then I think Inland would be the way to go.

Any other help would be appreciated and thanks again!! :-* :-* :-*

 

[bonitanita]

Hi Girls and thanks so much :-* !

However I added this post also under the Spousal Sponsorship thread and I got a few answers there also, missmymexi gave me the following text that she gathered(and I had read) on Canada's website:

"To be a sponsor:
•You and the sponsored relative must sign a sponsorship agreement that commits you to provide financial support for your relative, if necessary. This agreement also says the person becoming a permanent resident will make every effort to support her or himself.
•You must provide financial support for a spouse, common-law or conjugal partner for three years from the date they become a permanent resident.
•You must provide financial support for a dependent child for 10 years, or until the child turns 25, whichever comes first.

You may not be eligible to be a sponsor if you:
•failed to provide financial support you agreed to when you signed a sponsorship agreement to sponsor another relative in the past
•defaulted on a court-ordered support order, such as alimony or child support
•receive government financial assistance for reasons other than a disability
•were convicted of a violent criminal offence, any offence against a relative or any sexual offence—depending on circumstances such as the nature of the offence, how long ago it occurred and whether a pardon was issued
•defaulted on an immigration loan—late or missed payments
•are in prison or
•have declared bankruptcy and have not been released from it yet.
"

As for the embassy of Rome, that is just for his Visitor Visa :-X so he can enter Canada, if he does, then I think Inland would be the way to go.

Any other help would be appreciated and thanks again!! :-* :-* :-*

I am pretty new to this too. We came to Canada and just spent about 6 months sorting ourselves out. My partner found a job, we got a place to rent and settled in a bit.
After that, I printed off the document checklist for Outland. Even though I am in Canada, I am applying outland because it's faster.
After looking at the document checklist, I started making a "table of contents" for my supporting documents. For example:
Section 1 - Applicant ID:
1a. Passport copy
1b. Copy of birth certificate

etc...

Then, I started printing off and copying all the things that were easy to do.

After that, I sent off to apply for my police reports and made an appointment to have my medical done.

I now have almost everything ready... my medical is on the 28th of March. All I am waiting on is my police report from Australia and for my partner to sort out his taxes for this year which he is due to sort out on Friday.

As for the forms, I am going to fill them out, validate them and print them the same week as I do my medical. I have checked out all the information on the forms and made sure I have it all written down.

As far as the finances go, I would print off bank statements. I would also get affidavits from your parents if possible stating that they are willing to support you until you can be financially independent. You need to show that you have the ability to support him. We were in the same situation and so to make it as easiest as possible, we came back and he got a job. Now we can show he is working. We wrote a statement showing how he has been supporting himself for the last few years and stating that he intends to establish himself here in Canada.

I hope that helps you and give you some direction.

In my opinion, the first step is to come home and start making some plans for living. You don't HAVE to do that. But, that is how we did it so that we could feel more comfortable with our application. The forms are a bit of a hassle to fill out and the less complicated your life is, the less complicated your forms will seem.

 

[AllisonVSC]

Hi Girls and thanks so much :-* !

However I added this post also under the Spousal Sponsorship thread and I got a few answers there also, missmymexi gave me the following text that she gathered(and I had read) on Canada's website:

"To be a sponsor:
•You and the sponsored relative must sign a sponsorship agreement that commits you to provide financial support for your relative, if necessary. This agreement also says the person becoming a permanent resident will make every effort to support her or himself.
•You must provide financial support for a spouse, common-law or conjugal partner for three years from the date they become a permanent resident.
•You must provide financial support for a dependent child for 10 years, or until the child turns 25, whichever comes first.

You may not be eligible to be a sponsor if you:
•failed to provide financial support you agreed to when you signed a sponsorship agreement to sponsor another relative in the past
•defaulted on a court-ordered support order, such as alimony or child support
•receive government financial assistance for reasons other than a disability
•were convicted of a violent criminal offence, any offence against a relative or any sexual offence—depending on circumstances such as the nature of the offence, how long ago it occurred and whether a pardon was issued
•defaulted on an immigration loan—late or missed payments
•are in prison or
•have declared bankruptcy and have not been released from it yet.
"

As for the embassy of Rome, that is just for his Visitor Visa :-X so he can enter Canada, if he does, then I think Inland would be the way to go.

Any other help would be appreciated and thanks again!! :-* :-* :-*

The part of the quote you highlighted means that you, as sponsor, agree to bare some of the financial obligations for the PR in Canada. It means basically that if you sponsor someone who ends up on welfare in the first 3 years of life in Canada, then you the sponsor, will be required to repay the government for the welfare assistance.

 

[missmini]

hi Kathy i don't want to scare u, just to make u aware that even the application for his visit visa needs to b very seriously prepared....the way i see it (from my own experience and many others here) he does not have strong ties with Greece but he will have strong ties with Canada and they could reject it on the basis that "he will not leave Canada" (quote from their rejection letters )

there are people from visa exempt countries which could get refused at the border but it's more rare....when u talk to someone face to face is different than when u write forms and letters :...and there r also people who need to get a visa from before and who statistically if they go to visit their spouse/partner they r in big percentage rejected

so u really need to gather all his possible ties with Greece and yours too....they need to be convinced that he won't just move to Canada....

one more thing: when u read the sposorship guides u will see that some things, requirements, forms don't apply for Quebec residents (i assume u r returning to Montreal); if u r or will b again a resident of Quebec u don't need to show income proofs like the Option C, letter from employer, pay stubs....Quebec will do its own assessment after the federal but i never heard rejecting anyone....what u need to focus on is proving ur relationship including proving ur living together

good luck!!

 

[KOUKLA75]

Hi guys and thanks all for the replies. ;D


Ok I have to clear some details up, I am a Canadian citizen, My BF is an Albanian citizen, we are currently in Greece.

• He has ties in Albania
• We don't plan to pass customs saying we are a couple, I am Canadian, he will be a visitor/ family friend

My Bf as an Albanian needs a Visa to enter, I don't need anything from Greece etc, I am Canadian.
Montreal is the place yeah missmini, is that were u also went? So if we do get the Visa and he enters as a Tourist, in Mtl, there is an exemption for the Financial part and I can get a letter from my father stating he will support him/us? (I plan to get a job shortly after I arrive that won't be hard but I want to know that I can get through that condition if it is exempt in case it takes some time to get a job)
I can prove our relationship no issue.

AllisonVSC, I know what the condition means, I have done this sponsorship back in 2004(cancelled it cause my then BF and I separated and he departed in 2005 and I cancelled so nothing was processed) the only issues for me now that are not clear(maybe things have changed maybe I don't remember what we did back then)are:

1. get the Visa done, I checked the Rome Visa site for Albanians , Greeks etc. Directions not so clear to me, I emailed them and they REPLIED they can't give individual info by mail(they had TIME to reply :-\ lol but not what I asked)
2. If he gets the Visa, we can pass customs like we did with me ex back in 2003, he is visiting Canada not a couple
3. I guess I have to print and read all the forms unless someone has : a list of exemptions for Mtl,Quebec that they can paste here for me

 

[missmini]

Hi guys and thanks all for the replies. ;D


Ok I have to clear some details up, I am a Canadian citizen, My BF is an Albanian citizen, we are currently in Greece.

• He has ties in Albania
• We don't plan to pass customs saying we are a couple, I am Canadian, he will be a visitor/ family friend

My Bf as an Albanian needs a Visa to enter, I don't need anything from Greece etc, I am Canadian.
Montreal is the place yeah missmini, is that were u also went? So if we do get the Visa and he enters as a Tourist, in Mtl, there is an exemption for the Financial part and I can get a letter from my father stating he will support him/us? (I plan to get a job shortly after I arrive that won't be hard but I want to know that I can get through that condition if it is exempt in case it takes some time to get a job)
I can prove our relationship no issue.

AllisonVSC, I know what the condition means, I have done this sponsorship back in 2004(cancelled it cause my then BF and I separated and he departed in 2005 and I cancelled so nothing was processed) the only issues for me now that are not clear(maybe things have changed maybe I don't remember what we did back then)are:

1. get the Visa done, I checked the Rome Visa site for Albanians , Greeks etc. Directions not so clear to me, I emailed them and they REPLIED they can't give individual info by mail(they had TIME to reply :-\ lol but not what I asked)
2. If he gets the Visa, we can pass customs like we did with me ex back in 2003, he is visiting Canada not a couple
3. I guess I have to print and read all the forms unless someone has : a list of exemptions for Mtl,Quebec that they can paste here for me

hi Kathy
yes i understood ur point; the thing is u need an invitation letter for him, he needs to say who's visiting; it's not good to lie...since u'll make the sponsorship after and they will see that u did and maybe they will put the application under more scrutiny; back in the days my bf too applied for tourist visa in Ca and i was living with him (and still do) we wanted to go and visit my family together, no plans to stay; we both had work here, etc....but he is residing working in a different country where i'm the closest relative; so they didn't consider strong ties with his residence country; also they didn't consider strong ties with his citizenship country either from the fact that he does not live there anymore, from economical reasons and soo many others....
we were honest up front, although if i would have found this forum before and see how many like us get rejected i would have prepared it differently....maybe we would have had a slightly bigger chance....i'm v confortable that we didn't hide anything and now, when i was preparing the sponsorship, i actually used those rejections in our advantage....the thing is if u don't say it would look like u hide ur relationship and it shouldn't - it should b very clear for them that u lived together for at least 1 year continuously...plus in his application he needs to write his marital status if he writes single and does not declare u as common law partner then it's big problem later; if he writes common law (as he should) and he declares u they will see u r canadian and they will know he goes there cuz of u even if he says he visits...things got much stricter than 5 years ago

actually there r many requiremenets for both quebec and canada - some common, some checked only at federal side, others checked only at provincial side....the easiest is to download the federal forms and u will know what is asked where...i don't know them bu heart....

yes a letter from ur parents stating they will help u financially and u can live with them should be enough; it's better for the letter to be notarized...

Edit: u said u will not say at the customs that u r a couple; ooook but until the customs he will need a visa from before; i think Albania is not visa exempt country like Uk, Australia, etc....well when he fills in the visit visa forms there r many questions abt his status, who he's visiting, relationship, etc....misrepresenting himself could lead to serious problems later....if u want him to have a smooth immigration process i wouldn't start it in this way

i'm from montreal too, outside of Canada now, in a forced way, since i will not go back alone....i don't want to be apart from him during this process and even if it takes 1 year, 2 years at least we wait together....i miss my family a lot but i would miss him much more...

good luck!!

 

[KOUKLA75]

missmini merci :-*

Ok now I'm confused again just after spending 1hr reading that for Qc u don't need to show financial records ;D ;D ;D

The thing is,I don't remember (w/ my previous BF) the customs asking anything more but what is the purpose of his visit(or asking me if I was anything to him) but as you say, while applying for the Visa he will be asked that so I will appear there and that may cause probs when sponsorship begins, am I right up to here?

So if i consider outland, and he stays back here, I get settled there get a job etc, and start the process, is it easier for him to get a Visa to come see me since we are in Sponsorship process? I read here somewhere ppl pointing out that w/ Outland , he may have to give an interview (where he is staying) what are the chances of that? I mean if I Sponsor outland, he comes Visa tourist and we renew it or the process is on, then logically does he have to come back to Europe?

OR if we leave together and his visa is done honestly(lol) and at customs for some reason they ask us, and we say we are BF/GF, will they refuse him passing THERE?

I thought of another thing, I have both citizenships, Greek and Canadian, since the Visa will be applied to in Europe, and if he has to add his common law spouse on it, my citizenship can be "Greek" as IT IS (and my name differs in Greek too lol)

How's all this sound have I made your day more complicated? :-*

 

[missmini]

de rien Kathy, pas de probleme my days r complicated already but yeah trying to clarify things might give me a little headache i'll do my best

missmini merci :-*

Ok now I'm confused again just after spending 1hr reading that for Qc u don't need to show financial records ;D ;D ;D

The thing is,I don't remember (w/ my previous BF) the customs asking anything more but what is the purpose of his visit(or asking me if I was anything to him) but as you say, while applying for the Visa he will be asked that so I will appear there and that may cause probs when sponsorship begins, am I right up to here?

ok, the process became stricter than a few years ago....they r much more careful at who visits, on what grounds and any immigration in general...they don't like AT ALL people overstaying their visa (which used to happen a looot) and if there is even the smallest chance they will just not give the visa....all this immigration stuff change so much, even every month, don't think at how it was a few years ago...those were good days.... it will not cause problems if he declares u as his common-law partner....

OR if we leave together and his visa is done honestly(lol) and at customs for some reason they ask us, and we say we are BF/GF, will they refuse him passing THERE?

the visit visa part has 2 steps: step 1 applying for it to local office (i guess Rome, right, or Athens?) and when he gets it then it's step 2 passing the customs; of course at the customs he could say he wants to visit Montreal but of course they might see in their system ur name too; so better be honest both when u apply and at the customs; have proofs ready like return ticket, the ties with Greece (from case to case employment, bank accounts, car, property, apt lease, university enrollment, u name it; if u plan to return with him or u said like that, have same proofs for u; all it matters for them is that he won't overstay; if u won't b there and plan to go back then why would he ) with all those proofs handy and both talking nicely i don't think they will reject him entry....getting the visa is the hard part :

So if i consider outland, and he stays back here, I get settled there get a job etc, and start the process, is it easier for him to get a Visa to come see me since we are in Sponsorship process? I read here somewhere ppl pointing out that w/ Outland , he may have to give an interview (where he is staying) what are the chances of that? I mean if I Sponsor outland, he comes Visa tourist and we renew it or the process is on, then logically does he have to come back to Europe?

i definitely encourage outland; even if he is in Canada with u during the process, still outland is the faster route and has soo many other advantages; currently inland takes around 20 months while outland Rome office takes around 10 i think; if u r together in Canada and apply outland and he has an interview then he needs to go back to Europe for the interview; no one can tell u what chances r for the interview; it could b 50/50 it could b just 10% chance; each case is different and each visa office is different

as for getting the visit visa during the process again it's like playing the lottery : they consider the same reasons as i explained before (with sponsorship in process, it is even more clear the applicant's intent to settle in Canada; i don't know in this case how a successful visit visa application should b prepared, I'll definitely look into it and try it later again); for sure try but noone can guarantee....noone also can be sure if a visit visa will have a higher chance of approval before starting the sponsorship or during...u can try it before u start the sponsorship (but be honest!!) and u'll see....

also maybe u didn't notice but as Canadian citizen u don't need to live in Canada during the sponsorship; u can wait together and once he gets his PR visa u will go together; it's much easier for a couple i think; of course u need to show proofs of return to Canada but it's not that difficult for u since ur family is in Canada (good time to do ur taxes this year, it's good proof, even if u didn't work, it still shows ur ties with Canada)...it looks to me that u might have a job already ready, so u can also show the job offer, approximate starting date etc....

I thought of another thing, I have both citizenships, Greek and Canadian, since the Visa will be applied to in Europe, and if he has to add his common law spouse on it, my citizenship can be "Greek" as IT IS (and my name differs in Greek too lol)

loool honey ok but it's not like u talk with a guy in the street who knows nothing abt this stuff....yes the visa will b processed in Europe but it;s processed by Canadian embassy in Europe right....u think if they type ur name in their system they won't know? (birth certificate, taxes, passport, u do have Canadian passport too, or applied for it at least once, NO?)...although i don't work there, i assume they have all in a system and once they type someone's name they can find the basic stuff the need....u don't have 2 names right?

now the reading part:

forms for the visit visa: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/visa.asp
(the common-law declaration form does not apply in ur case; it applies if the common-law partner would not b Canadian citizen and would need travel visa too; u can avoid saying it if no forms ask but u cannot say u r not, misrepresentation is very serious offense; he could be banned for any entrance to Canada for 2 years, it's something which noone should joke with)

forms and guides for sponsorship application OUTLAND (full package sent together at Missisauga first): http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/fc.asp
(don't think for now at the Quebec forms and requirements; they r common with the Canadian ones and once u complete all the federal forms u'll see that the Quebec ones r easy; plus u need first to sent the forms mentioned up and only after u can apply for QC)

very important manual to read (again OUTLAND): http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/op/op02-eng.pdf
(here u will understand what they follow when they asses the sponsor, the relationship, etc....more proofs u show from the examples there => less chances for an interview, possibly faster processing times)

lastly, here r the processing times (inland, outland for the sponsor and then u can see for each embassy): http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/times/perm-fc.asp

welcome to the confusing world of immigration : : : bonne chance!! :-* pfiiiu i'm still alive after all this writing
(by the way do make more research and reading from other members too; we all here share our own ideas, experience, which might not be the most correct one, and also this experience could b very different from region to region)

 

[KOUKLA75]

Ok...

I read all u said

So here is what I'm thinking now, OK so I start Outland, (from Greece say) it takes 10mths, during those 10mths (give or take) Can I depart before?

What ur saying if I understood it all, is we can be here , do Outland then once he gets PR, we leave, anything changes if I LEAVE before? and he waits the remaining time for PR? or is it a condition that we BOTH wait here?
I'd like to think of it this way, is that a feasible option? ( I WILL ASSUME that if he gets PR we DON'T need a VISA TOO eh? hahaha lol! ;D ;D )

Another thing that confuses me is, WHY does an Inland option exist if the person cannot get a Visa to be Inland for the purpose of PR?



***As for the Greek/ Canadian issue, let me explain smt to you, My name as all Greek names have a version for women and one for men(if u have Greek friends u can check ) for example, John Papadopoulos - female: Maria Papadopoulou, in my case -also my FIRST name, which is KATERINA in Greek this name is( AIKATERINI) so my first and last name in Greece is not the same as my First and last name in Canada. I don't use any Canadian ID's here in Greece, I have all my Greek papers with my Greek name, that's why I brought that up when it dawned to me I mentioned it. The only thing that is the same is the Bday lol.

 

[missmini]

kalimera aikaterini ;D

thanks for all those explanations abt the names it's really interesting; i actually have family in Greece and i love it there and the people (i'm not Greek)...i think it would b easier to move there than in Canada but we won't have anything to do ??? anyway, even if u put ur name as in the Greek id's they could search from ur bday (and i think they also know all this name thing which u told me....they know every country specifics, they r not stupid LOL )

i'm glad u got everything right from my essay and yes u can definately go back to Canada before him....u don't need to wait for his PR visa...it's actually better: u go before a few months, start working, maybe rent smthg just for u 2, send all these udates to the embassy and they won't have new questions abt income, re-settling intentions, etc; once re-settled u can definately go back and visit him too as much as u want; or u go before, settle, send the application (u r in Canada so no need to proof the ties with Canada, return, etc) and go back and wait with him....depends on ur situation

and NO once he gets the PR visa he does not need other visa to enter....hihihi

abt ur inland question, well there r soo many people already in Canada in one way or the other (legal or overstaying), they meet the Canadian in Canada and they can apply inland from diff reasons (many don't know they can apply outland while in Canada, for others inland is faster, for others going back to their country in case of interview, deportation, is not an option, and so many other issues....there r soo many threads abt this around here to read)

glad things r more clear for u now good luck preparing!!

 

[KOUKLA75]

miss don't call me :-X Aikaterini hahahhaha They don't call you that here, they call you Katerina it's just the ACTUAL name, like William=Bill ( don't like it)

Trust me you don't wanna live HERE. Greece is made for vacations, if you love the people (generally speaking of course) it's because you don't know them I was the type of person with a Greek flag on her wall(in Canada) until I started living here. And this coming from a Greek Anyhow

So I'd like to sum up my thoughts ( I posted it also in the Fam Sponsorship thread cos Leon replies there and here I come for you ;D )

I couldn't be more confused as to what to do :'( :'( :'(

My options are: PLEASE tell me if they are correct-

1. He gets a Visa, we travel together say the truth(were common-law) we do Inland : HE MAY OR MAY NOT PASS CUSTOMS RIGHT?
I gather probably not...

2. I leave, I start OUTLAND from Canada(that is possible right?) and he gets PR and comes : our relationship IS genuine etc- FROM WHAT I GATHER IF ALL IS DONE CORRECTLY 10-12MTHS HE IS THERE RIGHT?

3. I thought...we start Outland from Greece, and since I don't plan to leave YET, when I'm ready I go to Canada and WAIT for him to get the PR? IS THAT FEASIBLE?


I tried reading that !@#^&& guide (1st link you gave me) I feel like I don't know English or I'm stoned now hahahhahaha My head hurts.

 

[missmini]

miss don't call me :-X Aikaterini hahahhaha They don't call you that here, they call you Katerina it's just the ACTUAL name, like William=Bill ( don't like it)

Trust me you don't wanna live HERE. Greece is made for vacations, if you love the people (generally speaking of course) it's because you don't know them I was the type of person with a Greek flag on her wall(in Canada) until I started living here. And this coming from a Greek Anyhow

So I'd like to sum up my thoughts ( I posted it also in the Fam Sponsorship thread cos Leon replies there and here I come for you ;D )

I couldn't be more confused as to what to do :'( :'( :'(

My options are: PLEASE tell me if they are correct-

1. He gets a Visa, we travel together say the truth(were common-law) we do Inland : HE MAY OR MAY NOT PASS CUSTOMS RIGHT?
I gather probably not...

2. I leave, I start OUTLAND from Canada(that is possible right?) and he gets PR and comes : our relationship IS genuine etc- FROM WHAT I GATHER IF ALL IS DONE CORRECTLY 10-12MTHS HE IS THERE RIGHT?

3. I thought...we start Outland from Greece, and since I don't plan to leave YET, when I'm ready I go to Canada and WAIT for him to get the PR? IS THAT FEASIBLE?


I tried reading that ! @ #^&& guide (1st link you gave me) I feel like I don't know English or I'm stoned now hahahhahaha My head hurts.

loooooooool sorry i won't call u like that again!!!!!!!!! actually i fully understand ur feeling abt living there; i feel the same of my own home country (also in balcans, many Greeks used to go and study there, especially medicine ) it has lovely places and nature, nice food, very nice to visit but i would never live there again!!

yes very good that u ask Leon he really knows everything, i used to ask him too i don't follow that thread so no idea what u talked...but abt ur options:

1. if he gets the visa he WILL pass the customs, let's say 90%...just have return ticket and other proofs prepared....u'll know what to have when the time comes the issue is getting the visit visa!! but let's say u r part of the lucky few and he is in Canada with u why do u consider inland? u can still take the outland route....or r u afraid he might not be able to go back in case of an interview? i don't think he has to go back Greece, he could have the interview in Albania (from what i know Rome processes people from both countries)....but if u prepare a strong application he won't probably need interview

2. yes u r correct u can do like that also; remember the processing times r for 80% of the cases....usually Rome could finish faster than 10 months but also slower depending from case to case

3. this also is correct and feasible; we already applied and our plan is like that too....the only thing is our possible embassy is very slow so no clue when i should leave; i don't want to move back and then wait alone other 6 months or who knows....

loooool yes it could b hard to understand and no not everything is clear; it's like they say yes that object is red but it could b yellow too and there's exception when it could b green.....from my experience it needs to be read more times - first get used with the terms!! i also read it in english, then in french and then in english again....just to make sure i understand full....

u r mostly welcome to ask more or send me message good luck!! it will take a few months to have all ready join the club