New Citizenship Reform in Parliment on February 2014 - Chris Alexander
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This might be wishful thinking or me being extremely naive, however I think the law if passed will affect people that became permanent residents after a certain year and month. I might be wrong but I highly suspect it would be a progressive bill as opposed to a retroactive one. Like someone rightly mentioned this would not be business as usual as permanent residents have rights.
Minister Alexander said: "We want to give ourselves the tools to deal with the backlog we have.… We are victims of our own success. More people apply for citizenship than we ever expected,"
Liar. We, immigrants are the victims of your own stupidity, striking RQs right and left for unrealistic reasons that was amounted to 1/3 of applicants as I remember. That even CIC officers said they were astonished by the number of RQs they sent and that they could not handle afterwards. We, immigrants, are the victims not you.
Liar. We, immigrants are the victims of your own stupidity, striking RQs right and left for unrealistic reasons that was amounted to 1/3 of applicants as I remember. That even CIC officers said they were astonished by the number of RQs they sent and that they could not handle afterwards. We, immigrants, are the victims not you.
JH72 said:
My knowledge on Politics and Law Making is almost 0. So how long does it usually take for a Bill to become a Law... are we talking days? weeks? months? years... Being Harper's Govt. is Majority(?) will it be easier to pass this Bill? any estimates? thanks
sept15 said:
Took examples from someone's comments to that article:
Bill C-38
Three months from the time Bill C-38 was tabled in the HoC until Royal Assent. March 29th until June 29th.
http://www.parl.gc.ca/LegisInfo/BillDetails.aspx?billId=5514128
Bill C-45
Tabled March 29th
First Reading October 18th (6 and 1/2 months to study it)
Third Reading December 5th (1 and 1/2 months to debate it)
Royal Assent Dec. 14th (8 and 1/2 months after it was tabled)
http://www.parl.gc.ca/LegisInfo/BillDetails.aspx?billId=5754371
george123 said:
it was option (b) in my case. They returned the application and yet in online profile the received date is the time they opened the app. the very first time.
ramsfe said:
Well, supposedly, but due to the extreme discrepancy in processing times between various local offices, some people have to maintain PR status longer than others. If you are in Windsor, you might only have to maintain PR status for 4 years before you become a citizen. In Winnipeg, it might be six years or longer. This smacks of iniquity based on geography and is a real problem.
They operate like the Stone Age ! Get that $44 million working guys....your credibility has dangerously fallen over time ! You think PRs are some dorks over whose eyes you can forever pull the wool ? ! We are pumping precious hard-earned $$ into your coffers...smell the coffee...and deliver before you are booted out even faster ! 
EasyRider said:
Guys,
Once a bill is tabled, in case it is passed can they consider the dates prior to the passing of the bill or only future dates?
E.g: If this new bill is passed in Aug 2014 can they say that it applies to all applications from 2014 Jan or only after Aug 2014?
Felixo said:
Well Felixo,
If they do this, here is the kind of trouble they will get into :
What will happen to those who applied in september 2013 and became citizens ? What will happen to those who applied from Windsor and became citizens in record times and those who applied from Vancouver and who will probably wait more than everyone else? A law has to be fair, otherwise, it will get legally challenged and can be a huge burden for the torries. In politics, there is a principle called " Nimey" or, "Not in my election year", the citizenship law is a very important law that will have huge consequences on people's lives in Canada, so I really believe that they will take extra care before doing anything drastic, they are not fighting a fire, they are changing the way Canada thinks, so this takes loads of time : How will the people react ? How will the provinces react ? How will justice react ?...all of these are questions that they are probably thinking of and they will need to use a certain amount of fairness so that this doesnt become a bomb!
Today, if immigrants want my advice, they have two things to do : If they didn't apply for citizenship yet and fulfill all the requierments to do so, it is time to send the application ! The other thing that we all should do, and convince people to do, is to write to our MP's, to the minister of Citizenship and immigration, to PM Harper and to all the immigration critics out there, to voice our opinion as a group and not as individuals.
ramsfe said:
I would add that you should also write to the provincial minister in charge of immigration programs as well. For those in Manitoba, her name is Erna Braun. Ask her to get to the bottom of why citizenship processing takes so long in her province. Tell her that people are considering leaving Manitoba for other parts of the country, where they don't have to wait as long. Tell her that immigrants to other parts of the country can become citizens in less than four years, while it is taken six years or more in her province. Ask her what she thinks about that and what she can do to get her federal "partners" to level the playing field. Her job is to attract immigrants to her province. She should care about the discrepancies........
and with all their past and ongoing screws-ups ...theres a lot of "love" floating around it seems ! The Polls are speaking - lots of damage already done by them on many fronts - not just on immigration !
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/more-see-trudeau-as-excellent-prime-minister-than-harper-poll-1.2510713
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/more-see-trudeau-as-excellent-prime-minister-than-harper-poll-1.2510713