new changes from cic

[GRITA.ABRAHAM]

New reforms are made by CIC to volunatrily give up permanent residency.
This approach is needs further reform.
The documents listed in checklist IMM 5783 are copy and not original.There are chances of somebody taking revenge and cancelling PR out of revenge.
For example abused spouses,step children,employees,vitims of identity theft..the list goes on...
This program needs further improvement like applicant should submit original instead of photo copies.there should be a fee and in person interview.the document checklist must also have affidavit of declaration to renounce pr.
If you have any concerns about this new law,please.express your concerns by reaching out to cic at 1800-242-2100 or cpc-Cic-ottawa@cic.gc.ca
Thanks,
Grita

 

[Donvalley]

New reforms are made by CIC to volunatrily give up permanent residency.
This approach is needs further reform.
The documents listed in checklist IMM 5783 are copy and not original.There are chances of somebody taking revenge and cancelling PR out of revenge.
For example abused spouses,step children,employees,vitims of identity theft..the list goes on...
This program needs further improvement like applicant should submit original instead of photo copies.there should be a fee and in person interview.the document checklist must also have affidavit of declaration to renounce pr.
If you have any concerns about this new law,please.express your concerns by reaching out to cic at 1800-242-2100 or cpc-Cic-ottawa @ cic.gc.ca
Thanks,
Grita

I don't get it clear but feeling a bit uneasy about suggesting to mail the originals though. Originals can be verified at personal interview as an alternate but what in case if the person is living abroad? I don't know.

How to get a photograph dated/signed, in case of revenge? or isn't it too much exaggeration?

 

[GRITA.ABRAHAM]

We read everyday in the newspapers about thefts.how difficult is it for a husband to get the photographs when living under one roof.

If a person is abroad then their pr status is automatically revoked if they dont return to canada for more than 3 years.why do we even need such a process.

When the process of getting pr card so difficult why is the renounciation process so easy?

 

[rayman_m]

We read everyday in the newspapers about thefts.how difficult is it for a husband to get the photographs when living under one roof.

If a person is abroad then their pr status is automatically revoked if they dont return to canada for more than 3 years.why do we even need such a process.

When the process of getting pr card so difficult why is the renounciation process so easy?

If a person does not comeback to Canada within 3 years of continuous absent out of 5 years upon becoming a PR then why that person need to be a PR of Canada? However, there is a exception and if a person became sick, family issues or other valid reason and like to maintain PR there is a consulate assistance..

Yes, govt need to keep this process. Otherwise one can live outside as much as can while having PR status of Canada. That is why Canada has citizenship process and a PR becomes citizen after 4-5 years and has option to live outside as much as he/she wants.. So..PR always comes with condition..

 

[GRITA.ABRAHAM]

If you read this process again,it's voluntarily giving up PR status and the documents requested are photo copies.There has to be some original documents as well.This process has a lot of negativity and needs improvement.There has to be an in person interview with the visa officer for people voluntarily giving up PR status residing inside canada.

 

[CanadianCountry]

Well you can try to explain, but usually it's quite difficult to make someone understand. Good luck!

I haven't checked but if the process is as you say it is, then definitely it needs a reform.

I have seen many people giving a photocopy of their PR cards as proof of legal status to landlords. Who knows what can happen if you annoy your landlord.

If you read this process again,it's voluntarily giving up PR status and the documents requested are photo copies.There has to be some original documents as well.This process has a lot of negativity and needs improvement.There has to be an in person interview with the visa officer for people voluntarily giving up PR status residing inside canada.

 

[Donvalley]

We read everyday in the newspapers about thefts.how difficult is it for a husband to get the photographs when living under one roof.

If a person is abroad then their pr status is automatically revoked if they dont return to canada for more than 3 years.why do we even need such a process.

When the process of getting pr card so difficult why is the renounciation process so easy?

1. How can you live under one roof if don't trust each other? If that is the case, there are many more issues to address then.

2. PR status is not automatically revoked as you said just because they are out of the country for three years. CIC has to revoke it. Only case of automatic revoking is when a person is becoming citizen.

3. The process may need reviews but your points of theft or revenge etc. etc. seems too fictitious at this time until there is some real data presented to support.

 

[Canadiandesi2006]

New reforms are made by CIC to volunatrily give up permanent residency.
This approach is needs further reform.
The documents listed in checklist IMM 5783 are copy and not original.There are chances of somebody taking revenge and cancelling PR out of revenge.
For example abused spouses,step children,employees,victims of identity theft..the list goes on...
This program needs further improvement like applicant should submit original instead of photo copies.there should be a fee and in person interview.the document checklist must also have affidavit of declaration to renounce pr.
If you have any concerns about this new law,please.express your concerns by reaching out to cic at 1800-242-2100 or cpc-Cic-ottawa @ cic.gc.ca
Thanks,
Grita

I completely agree, such system is open to abuse. The CIC should ensure that innocent people are protected by asking them to personally come to CIC office or Canadian Embassy in foreign country.

 

[era1521]

New reforms are made by CIC to volunatrily give up permanent residency.
This approach is needs further reform.
The documents listed in checklist IMM 5783 are copy and not original.There are chances of somebody taking revenge and cancelling PR out of revenge.
For example abused spouses,step children,employees,vitims of identity theft..the list goes on...
This program needs further improvement like applicant should submit original instead of photo copies.there should be a fee and in person interview.the document checklist must also have affidavit of declaration to renounce pr.
If you have any concerns about this new law,please.express your concerns by reaching out to cic at 1800-242-2100 or cpc-Cic-ottawa @ cic.gc.ca
Thanks,
Grita

You are in a wrong place; this part of forum is regarding Citizenship (Canadian one, if I figure right).
Beside that the topic wherever involves terms like "revenge", "victim of identity theft" is a police matter. So again, you are in a wrong place.

 

[GRITA.ABRAHAM]

1. How can you live under one roof if don't trust each other? If that is the case, there are many more issues to address then.

2. PR status is not automatically revoked as you said just because they are out of the country for three years. CIC has to revoke it. Only case of automatic revoking is when a person is becoming citizen.

3. The process may need reviews but your points of theft or revenge etc. etc. seems too fictitious at this time until there is some real data presented to support.

"Until there is real data presented to support"--So someone`s life and hard work has to get screwed up for people to believe this can happen in real?
And this is not just restricted to husband and wife..It can be anyone..your boss,landlord,loan lender anyone who has possession of your PR Card Xerox...

 

[aed]

1. How can you live under one roof if don't trust each other? If that is the case, there are many more issues to address then.

Sometimes people have no other option. I wish it was different, but it's just life. I've seen it before.

3. The process may need reviews but your points of theft or revenge etc. etc. seems too fictitious(...)

Unfortunately, it is not a fiction at all. If the process looks like OP describes it, it's completely open to abuse. I do know a couple that divorced and there's a kid from this relationship. Long story short, mother doesn't want a father around because he was abusive. He was booted out of the country, but let back in, I'm assuming on compassionate grounds. I can imagine a situation when a person might abuse this process.

 

[greeki78]

1. How can you live under one roof if don't trust each other? If that is the case, there are many more issues to address then.

2. PR status is not automatically revoked as you said just because they are out of the country for three years. CIC has to revoke it. Only case of automatic revoking is when a person is becoming citizen.

3. The process may need reviews but your points of theft or revenge etc. etc. seems too fictitious at this time until there is some real data presented to support.

People will give deaf ear unless they themselves become the victims.There will many people who give read this topic and do nothing about it because they don't care.

 

[AnaMaria]

You are in a wrong place; this part of forum is regarding Citizenship (Canadian one, if I figure right).
Beside that the topic wherever involves terms like "revenge", "victim of identity theft" is a police matter. So again, you are in a wrong place.

This may be better discussed in PR section but it is very much relevant in this forum. There are many cases in the news and in this forum, particularly in PR section, in which people report immigrants become victim of abusive relationships, marriage/common-law, or employers and else. It is very much immigration matter, not just a police matter. Even if the relationship started with so much love, it can turn into hatred, particularly in hard life in Canada, I must add...

Grita, thanks for bringing up this topic. I think it is important that more people become aware of the reality of immigration in Canada.

 

[greeki78]

This may be better discussed in PR section but it is very much relevant in this forum. There are many cases in the news and in this forum, particularly in PR section, in which people report immigrants become victim of abusive relationships, marriage/common-law, or employers and else. It is very much immigration matter, not just a police matter. Even if the relationship started with so much love, it can turn into hatred, particularly in hard life in Canada, I must add...

Grita, thanks for bringing up this topic. I think it is important that more people become aware of the reality of immigration in Canada.

Many don't know about these changes yet,including the CIC call centre guys.I called them,I was put on hold for 20 minutes for them to take a look at this new procedure.