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[Willson47]

Well, i understand everything. I decied to make a order now. Then i'll write you a result.

 

[YorkFactory]

I hope for your own sake that you're just trolling.

 

[angelbrat]

wilson...your fake passport will NOT work, no matter where you land in Canada, nor what fake Country you travel from.

For a start, if you have a fake passport from the US or UK and your spoken English is not that good...well that will send a red flag immediately.

Canadians are a clever bunch of people 'ya know'....and have figured this fake passport scam some time ago.....

Despite what toby says about people wanting to hide themselves from their Country....the only reason someone would try and use a fake passport was because they were inadmissible to Canada.

As PMM says.....go directly to jail...do not pass Go....do not collect 200

 

[toby]

Not quite, Angelbrat. There is at least one other, quite legitimate reason to want a fake passport to visit countries like Canada. If the person is from a "category four" country (Antigua, China, formerly Colombia, etc), he is required to get consular visas for each country he passes through, and visit. That can mean a lot of time, paperwork, and expense.

Some of these would-be travelers must be decent people, yet all are required to get consular visas. We've all read the posts complaining about the sheer arbitrariness of the Visa Officer who decides to reject an application for a temporary visa. It seems the VO simply concludes that the applicant has insufficient ties to the home country (despite the applicant's having a home there, financial assets, family job etc ) and presto -- decides "NO" without deigning to explain why.

If the applicant is a gangster, OK. Justice was served when the VO said "no". But let's say that the applicant is a decent person, and theoretically admissible to Canada. Unfortunately, he runs up against an inflexible VO who loves to reject applications on the merest pretext. This experience must be very, very aggravating, and I can certainly understand the temptation to use a fake passport to avoid the process.

This is not to say that one should evade the process by using a fake passport, but neither do I conclude that anyone so tempted is necessarily inadmissible. I find myself in the awkward position of defending the motives of some people who might use fake passports, while condemning the use of fakes themselves.

 

[angelbrat]

Sorry toby I don't buy that.

I doubt any VO would risk their job just because they are having a bad day. They are professional people whom have been trained and are more than capable of making proper decisions.

Without doubt, people get refused but in my opinion these people are the ones that unfortunately throw suspicion upon themselves.

Should they then resort to using a fake passport, well just shows you that Immigration was right the first time....they are potential criminals and resort to dishonest means to get what they want.

 

[toby]

I doubt any VO would risk their job just because they are having a bad day. They are professional people whom have been trained and are more than capable of making proper decisions.

Without doubt, people get refused but in my opinion these people are the ones that unfortunately throw suspicion upon themselves.

I guess we'll have to disagree on this, Angelbrat. I have read many posts lamenting the denial of a temporary visa because of 'insufficient ties to the mother country', where the applicant had bank assets, a house, family, and even a job in the mother country. What more could the VO want?

Other applicants get temporary visas with much weaker ties to the mother country.

How to explain the inconsistency? Until the VOs provide reasons for their conclusions, we cannot know whether their decisions are proper or just arbitrary. How do these apparently solid people (including my wife, recently denied a travel visa) manage to "throw suspicion on themselves" as you allege? They present simple documentation with their application, and would have to be very foolish to say anything that woudl cause a VO to be suspicious.

Do you have inside information about the factors that VOs consider? I'd love to hear it, because I surely don't.

 

[PMM]

Hi

I guess we'll have to disagree on this, Angelbrat. I have read many posts lamenting the denial of a temporary visa because of 'insufficient ties to the mother country', where the applicant had bank assets, a house, family, and even a job in the mother country. What more could the VO want?

Other applicants get temporary visas with much weaker ties to the mother country.

How to explain the inconsistency? Until the VOs provide reasons for their conclusions, we cannot know whether their decisions are proper or just arbitrary. How do these apparently solid people (including my wife, recently denied a travel visa) manage to "throw suspicion on themselves" as you allege? They present simple documentation with their application, and would have to be very foolish to say anything that woudl cause a VO to be suspicious.

Do you have inside information about the factors that VOs consider? I'd love to hear it, because I surely don't.

Read OP 11 http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/op/op11-eng.pdf

 

[toby]

Thanks, PMM.

Useful reading.

However, I remain mystified about why the Visa Officer (VO) suspected my wife would not return to China from Canada -- since we currently live together in China. If I lived in Canada, I can understand that a VO would be more cautious, because a wife might be more tempted to stay in Canada illegally with her husband already living there.

I guess the only way to really understand the reasoning is to order the CAIPS (not the FOSS?) notes. Right?

 

[Malmo]

I can't believe that such a website is in business! lol where is INTERPOL??

 

[Willson47]

I've recieved my new French passport and ID card today. All looks very impressive and real! Next week i will try to travel in Canada with this documents. If all be ok i'll keep you informed about it.

 

[PMM]

Hi

I've recieved my new French passport and ID card today. All looks very impressive and real! Next week i will try to travel in Canada with this documents. If all be ok i'll keep you informed about it.

Write from jail.

 

[lands]

Passports from Aussie or NZ are also good ones to have....

 

[angelbrat]

really really hopes this is a big joke...for everyone's sake.

 

[toby]

But if it is not a joke, won't that set the cat among the pigeons!??

 

[rob_187]

Don't drop the soap in prison, you will be caught.