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Jamesah

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Today my Visa Office asked me to provide :

-Provide proof that you and your sponsor have lived together for 12 consecutive
months
-Proof of your common-law relationship.

The problem is we don´t have enough information with data to provide this, they gave me 30 days to comply, my question is: If we got marry between these lapse of time would they be suspicious about it? By the way we planned to get marry but not so soon.

Any Suggestion or ideas are welcomed
 

Pippin

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Mar 22, 2010
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From your post, it looks like you indicated you were living together for more than a year in your application. They need proof of that. If you get married in the next 30 days, it is not going to provide the proof they are asking for. What documentation do you presently have, back to what date? If you give us more information we may be able to help you. Bank accounts, travel expenses, photographs, utility bills?
 

Jamesah

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Aug 26, 2010
63
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Visa Office......
Mexico City
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0213
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Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
30-05-2010
Doc's Request.
05-11-2010
AOR Received.
30-09-2010
Med's Request
28-09-2011
Med's Done....
08-10-2011
Interview........
28-09-2011
Passport Req..
09-11-2011
VISA ISSUED...
24-11-2011
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Hi,

What we have is, travel tickets from previous trips together(for the past four years), I do have photographs from these trips and family, life policy that have her name as beneficiary, but I need something concrete that convince them that she is my partner.

That´s why I´m thinking to get the marriage certificate among these things what do you think?
Thank You
 

Pippin

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Do you have anything that proves you both live at the same address for at least the past 12 months? That's why I mentioned utility bills and bank accounts that would have been posted to your home. Having a joint account and getting a letter from the bank indicating the date that account was taken out may also be helpful. From what you have told me, IF I was the VO looking at your documents, I would think this was a couple of friends, possibly GOOD friends, but they do not live together. Come on...you've got to have something that will make me change my mind. LOL Keep digging and see what you can come up with. I am absolutely NOT an expert, but I would think a marriage certificate dated within the 30 day period would be the biggest red flag UNLESS you had proof that you were planning the wedding long before their request for proof was sent to you.
 

Jamesah

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Aug 26, 2010
63
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Category........
Visa Office......
Mexico City
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0213
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
30-05-2010
Doc's Request.
05-11-2010
AOR Received.
30-09-2010
Med's Request
28-09-2011
Med's Done....
08-10-2011
Interview........
28-09-2011
Passport Req..
09-11-2011
VISA ISSUED...
24-11-2011
LANDED..........
Waiting
You are absolutely right Pippin I thought the same It would be very stange to get marry exactly qhe they asked me for more proofs (but I had to ask somebody else`s opinion) mmm... I keep searching among my papers to see if I can find anything with my address with her name so I`ll keep searching and gathering everything at my disposal.



Thank You man If you think of something else I`ll appreciate it

May be a common in law certificate if it's available in my country
 

scylla

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Jun 8, 2010
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01-10-2010
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05-10-2010
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05-10-2010
Do you rent the place where you live together? What about including a letter from your landlord confirming that you both live there and have lived there together for a year. You could also include letters from friends and family confirming your status and the fact that you have been living together for at least one year. Also, do you have any old emails (i.e. older than a year) where you discuss and plan moving in together that mention specific dates?
 

qorax

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Nov 21, 2009
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Jamesah said:
Today my Visa Office asked me to provide :

-Provide proof that you and your sponsor have lived together for 12 consecutive
months
-Proof of your common-law relationship.

The problem is we don´t have enough information with data to provide this, they gave me 30 days to comply, my question is: If we got marry between these lapse of time would they be suspicious about it? By the way we planned to get marry but not so soon.

Any Suggestion or ideas are welcomed
All the above opinion/s being valid - I'd say, if u don't have anything to solidify that CL relationship - 'marriage' is your best bet. It doesn't matter if it was pre-planned or off-the-cuff, a 'proper' wedding - solemnized under the local laws, with documentary proof, is good enough for the spouse to be included in your apps.

Else, how does one, who got married yesterday, apply for the PR today? Similarly, how does a 'landed' PR, returns home, on vacation, gets to the altar [under family duress, or whatever], returns & imdtly sponsors his spouse under the FC stream?

Qorax
 

Pippin

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I understand what you are getting at Qorax, but it was my impression that the applicant stated they were CL in his forms. If he now says they are married and doesn't PROVE that he was CL when he said he was, could the VO not say it was misrepresentation in the first place even though they are now legally married (if that is what they chose to do this month)??
 

MCBoy

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Pippin, i would second Qorax.

"If he has NO other option to prove, then marry.". Send the marriage documents and relationship documents, probably some part of the application changed too, and write a cover letter to the VO that, we had been planning to marry for sometime now, and now that the marriage is done, request to change the relationship. All necessary docs attached.

Attach all sort of proofs that he may have, tons of photos etc. Just overwhelm the VO with info so much, that he/she has to believe that you were CL now married.
 

qorax

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Nov 21, 2009
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Pippin said:
I understand what you are getting at Qorax, but it was my impression that the applicant stated they were CL in his forms. If he now says they are married and doesn't PROVE that he was CL when he said he was, could the VO not say it was misrepresentation in the first place even though they are now legally married (if that is what the chose to do this month)??
Not a problem. The CL partner is equated to a spouse; the VO decided to probe whether s/he could be granted that status - for inclusion to the case file, as claimed by the PA; and if the partners get wedded, now, that probe gets conclusive... s/he gets to be that 'spouse', legally.

Qorax
 

Pippin

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So you don't see any possibility that this could increase the possibility the VO may think this is a marriage for the purpose of immigration if there is no evidence of the previous 12 consecutive months living together which is what they specifically requested?
 

Jamesah

Star Member
Aug 26, 2010
63
1
Category........
Visa Office......
Mexico City
NOC Code......
0213
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
30-05-2010
Doc's Request.
05-11-2010
AOR Received.
30-09-2010
Med's Request
28-09-2011
Med's Done....
08-10-2011
Interview........
28-09-2011
Passport Req..
09-11-2011
VISA ISSUED...
24-11-2011
LANDED..........
Waiting
Hi, I have the same concern as pippin I believe I have passed most of the process of the Visa(job,education, language etc.) and I believe this is the only red flag the VO had, so I don't want to blow my chance making it more confusing to the VO so I'm giving it a lot of time to think about this and taking all your opinions in mind.

I honestly don't know which is the best path to follow
 

MCBoy

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Oops! Good point actually. Damn! I did not think about it.

With the latest hue and cry about that could have made them even more paranoid!!!

Pippin said:
So you don't see any possibility that this could increase the possibility the VO may think this is a marriage for the purpose of immigration if there is no evidence of the previous 12 consecutive months living together which is what they specifically requested?
 

qorax

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Nov 21, 2009
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Pippin said:
So you don't see any possibility that this could increase the possibility the VO may think this is a marriage for the purpose of immigration if there is no evidence of the previous 12 consecutive months living together which is what they specifically requested?
No.
A marriage of convenience is a 'marriage' too.

Besides, the question here is not of misrepresantation... it's a question of including the spouse into the case file - whether s/he is 'fit' for it. The Marriage Cert. nails that. Why they got married 'now' becomes immaterial.

BTW, the OP has more to it than posted here... his paranoia could be genuine.

Qorax
 

Pippin

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Mar 22, 2010
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The VO is asking for proof you have been living together for at least 12 months. That is all they are asking for. Keep it simple and honest. Shared cell phone plan? Bank accounts? Credit cards in shared names? Mortgage or rental agreements? Names in the phone book or online directory. I am trying to think about it from my own perspective and it isn't easy to prove if one person pays the household bills and has the utilities in their name. Who keeps those sort of bills for a year anyway? I think the mortgage/rental agreements/bank statements are your best bet.