Need help regarding Reapplication of Visitor visa

[Sudhamk]

Hi
My husband is currently doing his PhD in Montreal, Canada. I am working in Bangalore as Senior Engineer and resigned on 24th March. I have applied for Visitor visa on 15th March 2017. I have received the decision in 19days and was rejected with following reasons:
You have not satisfied that you would leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident. In reaching the decision, I considered several factors including:
1. Family ties in Canada and in country of residence
2. Length of proposed stay in Canada
3. Purpose of visit
4. Personal assets and financial status
I am not satisfied that you have sufficient funds, including income or assets, to carryout your stated purpose in going to Canada or to maintain yourselfwhile in Canada and to effect your departure

I have provided the following documents while applying:
1. Education documents
2. 6 month payslip from company and 1yr IT return
3. Property document from my father with an affidavit
4. My father's retirement letter as proof of return to India
5. 6 month bank statement with amount 546000 transferred from my father and husband around 10 days before appying
6. Letter from bank approving the funds available
7. Medicals required
8. Invitation letter, university ID, utility bills from my husband
9. Marriage certificate, photos and wedding card as proof of marriage

I have stated my length of stay as 4 months and the financial support from myself and accomodation from my husband.

Still, what could be the reason behind the rejection that states about the personal funds.
What supporting documents should I provide to overcome the rejection and satisy the officer for above mentioned things?
Can someone who faced the above or know some info could please help? All the suggestions will be really useful. Thanks v much

 

[Anwers]

Hi
My husband is currently doing his PhD in Montreal, Canada. I am working in Bangalore as Senior Engineer and resigned on 24th March. I have applied for Visitor visa on 15th March 2017. I have received the decision in 19days and was rejected with following reasons:
You have not satisfied that you would leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident. In reaching the decision, I considered several factors including:
1. Family ties in Canada and in country of residence
2. Length of proposed stay in Canada
3. Purpose of visit
4. Personal assets and financial status
I am not satisfied that you have sufficient funds, including income or assets, to carryout your stated purpose in going to Canada or to maintain yourselfwhile in Canada and to effect your departure

I have provided the following documents while applying:
1. Education documents
2. 6 month payslip from company and 1yr IT return
3. Property document from my father with an affidavit
4. My father's retirement letter as proof of return to India
5. 6 month bank statement with amount 546000 transferred from my father and husband around 10 days before appying
6. Letter from bank approving the funds available
7. Medicals required
8. Invitation letter, university ID, utility bills from my husband
9. Marriage certificate, photos and wedding card as proof of marriage

I have stated my length of stay as 4 months and the financial support from myself and accomodation from my husband.

Still, what could be the reason behind the rejection that states about the personal funds.
What supporting documents should I provide to overcome the rejection and satisy the officer for above mentioned things?
Can someone who faced the above or know some info could please help? All the suggestions will be really useful. Thanks v much

What i see is payment transferred 10 days before you applied and your length of stay with respect to amount you have
And this thing weaken your case badly

Rest seniors can guide you better specially Bryanna

Regards

 

[Sudhamk]

Hi
Thanks for the reply. I have showed funds close to 546000 INR i.e 11000 CAD. I shall increase the amount of funds(Still the funds have to be added to the account before applying or taken in the form of FIxed deposit) and few property documents with and affidavit statement stating it can be utilised during my stay if required. Also i shall reduce the length of stay to say 2-3 weeks. Would this help to satisfy the officer.

Please help

 

[Bryanna]

Hi,

Sorry to say this: Your application guaranteed a refusal.


1. You resigned from your job = No intention to return to India.

BTW you should have kept IRCC informed about the changes in your employment (resigned) while your TRV was being processed. IRCC mistakenly processed your application on the presumption that you were still employed.

2. Short-term employment of one year (?) = ITR for one year

3. Property documents of your dad will not help your application. You do not own the property = You should not include these documents

4. How does your dad's retirement ensure that you will return to India?

5. Funds transferred by your dad and husband

6. Copies of your qualifications = You may work illegally on a TRV

7. A visit of four months = Not a visitor


To be approved, you must be able to prove that you have reasons to return to India i.e. employment, enrollment in a study program, finances of your own, property ownership, family ties (you will not be able to do much about this one) + previous travel history


Cheers

 

[Sudhamk]

Hi,

Sorry to say this: Your application guaranteed a refusal.


1. You resigned from your job = No intention to return to India.

BTW you should have kept IRCC informed about the changes in your employment (resigned) while your TRV was being processed. IRCC mistakenly processed your application on the presumption that you were still employed.

My company has not agreed to give leave for 1-2 months for the purpose of visit and so had to resign
2. Short-term employment of one year (?) = ITR for one year

Havenot received the ITR for the current year yet. I have been on the current job from July 2015, provided the offer letter from the company as a proof for this.

3. Property documents of your dad will not help your application. You do not own the property = You should not include these documents

I have provided this affixing an affidavit from my dad stating, this property can be used incase of any financial circumctances during my stay in Canada
4. How does your dad's retirement ensure that you will return to India?

I thought this way I would be able to ties to home country saying my father is old and retired and I should be there to take care of him
5. Funds transferred by your dad and husband

My Annual income is 630000 INR per annum. Please help me how I can show liquid funds as I do not hold higher amounts in my bank account but rather in a fixed deposit.

6. Copies of your qualifications = You may work illegally on a TRV

Do I have to not submit my qualifications?

7. A visit of four months = Not a visitor

I shal reduce the length of stay to say 2-3 weeks. Can you sugggest if that helps

To be approved, you must be able to prove that you have reasons to return to India i.e. employment, enrollment in a study program, finances of your own, property ownership, family ties (you will not be able to do much about this one) + previous travel history

1. I can provide employment offer from the company I would be joining after returning
2. Finances, Providing a Fixed Deposit of the req amount would help?
3. I dont have property documents on my own
4. I have travelled previously on Student visa to UK

It would be really helpful if you can advice me on what documents to be added to get it approved

Cheers

 

[Sudhamk]

Bryanna,
Can you advice me if applying for a Spouse Open Work Permit will help me in joining my husband in Canada. What are the chances of apprfor a work permit?

Any suggestions would be really appreciated, thanks v much

 

[Sudhamk]

Hi,

Thanks for the response. Can you please address on the below


1. You resigned from your job = No intention to return to India.

BTW you should have kept IRCC informed about the changes in your employment (resigned) while your TRV was being processed. IRCC mistakenly processed your application on the presumption that you were still employed.

My company has not agreed to give leave for 1-2 months for the purpose of visit and so had to resign
2. Short-term employment of one year (?) = ITR for one year

Have not received the ITR for the current year yet. I have been on the current job from July 2015, provided the offer letter from the company as a proof for this.

3. Property documents of your dad will not help your application. You do not own the property = You should not include these documents

I have provided this affixing an affidavit from my dad stating, this property can be used incase of any financial circumstances during my stay in Canada
4. How does your dad's retirement ensure that you will return to India?

I thought this way I would be able to ties to home country saying my father is old and retired and I should be there to take care of him
5. Funds transferred by your dad and husband

My Annual income is 630000 INR per annum. Please help me how I can show liquid funds as I do not hold higher amounts in my bank account but rather in a fixed deposit.

6. Copies of your qualifications = You may work illegally on a TRV

Do I have to not submit my qualifications?

7. A visit of four months = Not a visitor

I shall reduce the length of stay to say 2-3 weeks. Can you suggest if that helps

To be approved, you must be able to prove that you have reasons to return to India i.e. employment, enrollment in a study program, finances of your own, property ownership, family ties (you will not be able to do much about this one) + previous travel history

1. I can provide employment offer from the company I would be joining after returning
2. Finances, Providing a Fixed Deposit of the req amount would help?
3. I dont have property documents on my own
4. I have travelled previously on Student visa to UK

It would be really helpful if you can advice me on what documents to be added to get it approved

Cheers

 

[Bryanna]

My company has not agreed to give leave for 1-2 months for the purpose of visit and so had to resign

Your employment was the only strong tie/reason to return to India. By resigning, you don't have a reason now to return.

You application should have included a leave approval letter from your employer.

Have not received the ITR for the current year yet. I have been on the current job from July 2015, provided the offer letter from the company as a proof for this.

Offer letters/letters offering employment have no meaning.

As stated above, you should have included a leave approval letter + 4-6 months salary slips + 6 months bank statements to confirm you have received your salary (and the ITRs/income declared matches the salaries).

I have provided this affixing an affidavit from my dad stating, this property can be used incase of any financial circumstances during my stay in Canada

If you don't own the property, you cannot sell/take loans against it. This affidavit does not help your application.

Besides, not sure what type of financial crisis you were anticipating in Canada that would require you to sell/take loans against your dad's property? Did you want to buy a property when you're in Canada? Were you likely to default in credit card payments? Or maybe default in payments for medical treatments? This, in itself, is a red flag concerning the intentions of your visit.

thought this way I would be able to ties to home country saying my father is old and retired and I should be there to take care of him

As you had stated a visit/stay of four months, this indicates that your dad can take care of himself without you being around. A shorter visit of 2-3 weeks would have convinced the visa officer about this reason to return.

More importantly, does your dad live alone? Or with some other family members? Does he have any medical condition which requires someone to take care of him? Did you include any evidence if this is the case?

My Annual income is 630000 INR per annum. Please help me how I can show liquid funds as I do not hold higher amounts in my bank account but rather in a fixed deposit.

Are these fixed deposits owned solely by you? Or are they owned by you and your dad/your husband?

Are these FDs locked-in? Or is interest credited regularly to your bank account?

Do I have to not submit my qualifications?

No, proofs of your qualifications are not required for a TRV.

Presently, you are unemployed + submitting your qualifications would give the wrong impression that you're coming to look for employment/may work illegally on a TRV.

I shal reduce the length of stay to say 2-3 weeks. Can you sugggest if that helps

This significant drop from a four months visit to 2-3 weeks will not convince the visa officer.

I can provide employment offer from the company I would be joining after returning

Offer letters are meaningless. To have any chance of getting approved for a TRV, you must be employed.... work for 6-8 months (to indicate stable employment).... and then apply.

I have travelled previously on Student visa to UK

That was for a long stay. So unfortunately it will not help. However, you must submit details of your UK student visa/UK stay when you apply.


Unfortunately, you have a weak application. I recommend that you do NOT reapply until your circumstances and your financial situation changes significantly.

1. You can request your recent employer to allow you to rejoin. This way, you do not have to work for 6-8 months at another workplace before you reapply.

2. Do work at your recent employer for another couple of months. Then request for leave approval for 2-3 weeks only. Anything beyond this means your employment ties are weak.

3. Save up and apply with your own finances. Financial dependence on your husband/your dad means you can overstay your visit

4. You must demonstrate other reasons to return to India

 

[Sudhamk]

Can I apply for a spouse work permit ? Will I have an advantage at this point of time over the visitor visa ?

 

[rj2301]

Can I apply for a spouse work permit ? Will I have an advantage at this point of time over the visitor visa ?

You can definitely apply for spouse work permit, this application is totally different than just regular visitor visa.
However given your refusal before, your chances of getting work permit is really low.
Sorry to say but I think your best chance is that your husband apply for spouse visa after he establish himself in Canada i.e. Open Work permit or Full-time permanent Job

 

[Sudhamk]

Thanks for all the responses rj2301, specially Bryanna. Can someone still respond on the case if Appying for a Open Work Permit post Visitor Visa refusal is a better option? May be if they are succesful in doing so and how?
This is really important for me. All your suggestions would help a lot in arriving to a decision. Please help!! Thanks v much

 

[Bryanna]

Can someone still respond on the case if Appying for a Open Work Permit post Visitor Visa refusal is a better option? May be if they are succesful in doing so and how?

Here's the link:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/work/apply-who-permit-result.asp?q1_options=1i&q2_options=2d

 

[Sudhamk]

Thanks for all the responses rj2301, specially Bryanna. Can someone still respond on the case if Appying for a Open Work Permit post Visitor Visa refusal is a better option? May be if they are succesful in doing so and how?
This is really important for me. All your suggestions would help a lot in arriving to a decision. Please help!! Thanks v much

 

[Bryanna]

Thanks for all the responses rj2301, specially Bryanna. Can someone still respond on the case if Appying for a Open Work Permit post Visitor Visa refusal is a better option? May be if they are succesful in doing so and how?
This is really important for me. All your suggestions would help a lot in arriving to a decision. Please help!! Thanks v much

There's no way of guessing whether or not you'll be successful for a SOWP after a TRV refusal.

Have you gone through the link?