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Need Help - original and up-to-date letters of reference

PankajK

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NOC Code......
0213
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November 2010
Med's Done....
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Hi Friends,

I am collecting documents for the full application to CHC SINGAPORE, My NOC Code is 0213.

In the Embassy Specific Instructions they ask for:

7. WORK EXPERIENCE
For you and your spouse or common-law partner:
• notarized employment contracts from your present and past employers,
accompanied by an English or French translation
original and up-to-date letters of reference from your past and current employers.
Letters must be written on company letterhead and show the company’s full
address, telephone and fax numbers, and be stamped with the company’s official
seal.
Letters must include all of the following information:
• the specific period of your employment with the company
• the positions you have held during the period of employment and the time spent
in each position
• your main responsibilities in each position
• your total annual salary plus benefits
• the signature of your immediate supervisor or the personnel officer of the
company
• a business card of the person signing
If you cannot provide a reference from your current employer, provide a
written explanation.


As from the above they ask for original letters of references from past and current employers, I have worked with total 3 employers where 3rd is the current employer, I can not ask any of them for any reference letter as they are not aware of my application, for my current employer i don't want to simply tell them. In that case can i just sent my employment history details notarized copies, with giving same reason in the cover letter?

Please reply,
Regards,
Pankaj
 
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rupeshhari

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NOC Code......
4131
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Dec 2008 to CIO
Doc's Request.
Jan 2009
AOR Received.
Feb 2009 from VO
IELTS Request
Didn't do IELTS.
File Transfer...
Not transfered to regional office.
Med's Request
July 2010 with RPRF and another PCC.
Med's Done....
Meds - September 2010. PCC - Late Oct 2010
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
Early November 2010
VISA ISSUED...
December 2010 - Exactly days shy of 2 years since I sent in my application to CIO.
LANDED..........
2011
This is what i would do.

In the case of the first two, i would get originals because you shouldnt care if they know.
In the case of your current, show all the proof of job responsibilities, salary, etc, using contract, salary slip, etc.
 

PankajK

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Mar 22, 2009
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Vancouver, BC CANADA
Visa Office......
SINGAPORE
NOC Code......
0213
App. Filed.......
July 2009
AOR Received.
November 2010
Med's Done....
June 2012
Passport Req..
September 2012
VISA ISSUED...
September 2012
LANDED..........
November 2012 Vancouver, BC
Hi rupeshhari,

Thanks for the answer, Yes I am more concerned about the past employment because my past employment was NOC 0213.

Can you please tell me what should be the content of the reference letter?

Should it be addressed to CHC SINGAPORE by my past employer?

As my experience letter has all about my salary duration job title job responsibilities etc, should the reference letter contain all of these items?

Please explain it to me, i can get it from my past employer but i don't know what should be the content of this letter?

Regards,
Pankaj
 

rupeshhari

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Sep 15, 2008
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Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
NOC Code......
4131
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Dec 2008 to CIO
Doc's Request.
Jan 2009
AOR Received.
Feb 2009 from VO
IELTS Request
Didn't do IELTS.
File Transfer...
Not transfered to regional office.
Med's Request
July 2010 with RPRF and another PCC.
Med's Done....
Meds - September 2010. PCC - Late Oct 2010
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
Early November 2010
VISA ISSUED...
December 2010 - Exactly days shy of 2 years since I sent in my application to CIO.
LANDED..........
2011
check appendix A, it has a list of stuff that should be shown on by the employers. Also you can check FAQ on this forum
 

PankajK

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Mar 22, 2009
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Vancouver, BC CANADA
Visa Office......
SINGAPORE
NOC Code......
0213
App. Filed.......
July 2009
AOR Received.
November 2010
Med's Done....
June 2012
Passport Req..
September 2012
VISA ISSUED...
September 2012
LANDED..........
November 2012 Vancouver, BC
Thanks for a quick reply,

I have worked in Comapnies

1. Company A
2. Company B
3. Company A NOC 0213
4. Company C

So My question is can i get just single reference letter from Company A for my two work durations also during (3. Company A NOC 0213) my second term with Company A i was appointed as Team Lead and then got promoted as Project Manager.

and Should it be addressed to CHC SINGAPORE by my past employer or it can be generic?
 

rupeshhari

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Sep 15, 2008
3,686
255
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
NOC Code......
4131
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Dec 2008 to CIO
Doc's Request.
Jan 2009
AOR Received.
Feb 2009 from VO
IELTS Request
Didn't do IELTS.
File Transfer...
Not transfered to regional office.
Med's Request
July 2010 with RPRF and another PCC.
Med's Done....
Meds - September 2010. PCC - Late Oct 2010
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
Early November 2010
VISA ISSUED...
December 2010 - Exactly days shy of 2 years since I sent in my application to CIO.
LANDED..........
2011
Well you need letters for two reasons. For showing ministerial list compliance, you can do that with letter from A.
For points, i dont know if you have enough years just from company A, and if you do, then its good else you might need some proof from other companies

I guess its also important in the sense that you were not doing anything else during the time you claim against a company.

But if you can't get for a company, then you can't. It shouldnt be because you dont want to try.
 

PankajK

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Vancouver, BC CANADA
Visa Office......
SINGAPORE
NOC Code......
0213
App. Filed.......
July 2009
AOR Received.
November 2010
Med's Done....
June 2012
Passport Req..
September 2012
VISA ISSUED...
September 2012
LANDED..........
November 2012 Vancouver, BC
Thanks for your answer but I wanted to know that as I have worked with "company A" for two durations:

Jan 2005 to May 2006
Sep 2006 to August 2008 (NOC Code 0213)

My question is can I get only ONE Reference Letter for the above two employments with same employer "company A", though i have my appointment letters and experience letters for both employment durations with "company A".

Also Should the reference letter be addressed to CHC SINGAPORE by my past employers or it can be generic who so ever it may concern type?

Regards,
Pankaj
 

qorax

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Pankaj,

Simple answer... It is 'not' always possible to get reference letters. What if the employer/s do not care to give u one? Will that be a red flag in ur immigration processing?

No. Till the time u have ur appt letters, exp certs (if any), pay stubs, promotion letters etc. It would suffice with CHC. Notarize them & send them accross.

Note: Read the Clause-7, Last Point again. "If you cannot provide a reference from your current employer, provide a written explanation". That's the deal, my friend.

Regards.
Ps: I never had any reference letters. And I faced no problems.
 
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rupeshhari

VIP Member
Sep 15, 2008
3,686
255
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
NOC Code......
4131
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Dec 2008 to CIO
Doc's Request.
Jan 2009
AOR Received.
Feb 2009 from VO
IELTS Request
Didn't do IELTS.
File Transfer...
Not transfered to regional office.
Med's Request
July 2010 with RPRF and another PCC.
Med's Done....
Meds - September 2010. PCC - Late Oct 2010
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
Early November 2010
VISA ISSUED...
December 2010 - Exactly days shy of 2 years since I sent in my application to CIO.
LANDED..........
2011
PankajK said:
Thanks for your answer but I wanted to know that as I have worked with "company A" for two durations:

Jan 2005 to May 2006
Sep 2006 to August 2008 (NOC Code 0213)

My question is can I get only ONE Reference Letter for the above two employments with same employer "company A", though i have my appointment letters and experience letters for both employment durations with "company A".

Also Should the reference letter be addressed to CHC SINGAPORE by my past employers or it can be generic who so ever it may concern type?

Regards,
Pankaj
Yep, one letter from company A is fine.
 

PankajK

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Mar 22, 2009
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Vancouver, BC CANADA
Visa Office......
SINGAPORE
NOC Code......
0213
App. Filed.......
July 2009
AOR Received.
November 2010
Med's Done....
June 2012
Passport Req..
September 2012
VISA ISSUED...
September 2012
LANDED..........
November 2012 Vancouver, BC
Thanks Friends,

@ qorax

I agree with you and with the same understaing i didn't ask my Past Employers for the reference letter, but if i ask them I think he will provide the one.

"If you cannot provide a reference from your current employer, provide a written explanation". Only say about current employer does that mean CHC will expect a reference letter from the past employer of if i just send the notarized copies of appointment letter and experience letter that would be ok.

Regards
Pankaj
 

qorax

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Brother,

Current or Past, it's all the same. U r lucky that your past employers would still be interested in helping u. In this big-bad world all are not that amicable. I repeat again, what if a past employer refuses, or dilly-dallies?

Thus, if u can get one or two, pretty good. But, if u can't, not an issue. CIC/CHC understands that.

Regards.
 

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Reference letter is an extremly important evidence, you need to subject all relevant but pay close attention to the one which qualifies under 0123.
Good luck and happy holidays!
 

PankajK

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Mar 22, 2009
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Vancouver, BC CANADA
Visa Office......
SINGAPORE
NOC Code......
0213
App. Filed.......
July 2009
AOR Received.
November 2010
Med's Done....
June 2012
Passport Req..
September 2012
VISA ISSUED...
September 2012
LANDED..........
November 2012 Vancouver, BC
Thanks Friends,

Happy Holidays and Good Luck
 

PankajK

Hero Member
Mar 22, 2009
665
34
Vancouver, BC CANADA
Visa Office......
SINGAPORE
NOC Code......
0213
App. Filed.......
July 2009
AOR Received.
November 2010
Med's Done....
June 2012
Passport Req..
September 2012
VISA ISSUED...
September 2012
LANDED..........
November 2012 Vancouver, BC
Should reference letter be addressed to CHC SINGAPORE by my past employer or it can be generic who so ever it may concern?
 

PankajK

Hero Member
Mar 22, 2009
665
34
Vancouver, BC CANADA
Visa Office......
SINGAPORE
NOC Code......
0213
App. Filed.......
July 2009
AOR Received.
November 2010
Med's Done....
June 2012
Passport Req..
September 2012
VISA ISSUED...
September 2012
LANDED..........
November 2012 Vancouver, BC
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