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Esstee

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Hi,
I've got refusal for my TRV with following reasons:
1.Your travel history
2.Your family ties in Canada and in your country of residence
3.Purpose of visit
4.Limited employment prospects in your country of residence

Regarding Limited employment prospects in country of residence, my husband has left the job and started a restaurant in Dubai six months ago with an initial investment of 400,000AED. It's quite a big investment. doesn't it satisfy the VO or it means something else?
Regarding Family ties, my husband is taking care of the buisness in dubai and he is not applying for the TRV,is this not enough to show my family ties in the country of residence?we're also legal residents here what else would be required to satisfy the VO?
What is the best thing to mention as the purpose of visit?(i do not have any friends or relatives in canada)
I have applied for my four kids too, aged between 6 to 15.
 

torontosm

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Esstee said:
Hi,
I've got refusal for my TRV with following reasons:
1.Your travel history
2.Your family ties in Canada and in your country of residence
3.Purpose of visit
4.Limited employment prospects in your country of residence

Regarding Limited employment prospects in country of residence, my husband has left the job and started a restaurant in Dubai six months ago with an initial investment of 400,000AED. It's quite a big investment. doesn't it satisfy the VO or it means something else?
Regarding Family ties, my husband is taking care of the buisness in dubai and he is not applying for the TRV,is this not enough to show my family ties in the country of residence?we're also legal residents here what else would be required to satisfy the VO?
What is the best thing to mention as the purpose of visit?(i do not have any friends or relatives in canada)
I have applied for my four kids too, aged between 6 to 15.
What did you say was the purpose of your visit? Did you include an invitation letter and proof of financial support from Canada?
 

Esstee

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torontosm said:
What did you say was the purpose of your visit? Did you include an invitation letter and proof of financial support from Canada?
i wrote the purpose of visit to take my children for 10 days vacation.and as i mention above that i do not have any friend or relative there, so no invitation letter was included.
 

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Esstee said:
i wrote the purpose of visit to take my children for 10 days vacation.and as i mention above that i do not have any friend or relative there, so no invitation letter was included.
Perhaps the VO doesn't think that you are going on vacation without your husband. Anyway, if you just wanted to come to Canada as tourist, does it really trouble you too much to not get the visa? Seriously, does it? There are many warmer countries you can visit. The temperature at night is already dropping to single digits in most of Canada.
 

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I agree with O-guy.

Esstee, is it really worth the trouble reapplying for a visit visa while you can spend the 10 day vacation somewhere else.

Frankly, before my parents moved to Canada few years back, I never thought of visiting Canada for pleasure.
 

Esstee

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bonitaellada said:
I agree with O-guy.

Esstee, is it really worth the trouble reapplying for a visit visa while you can spend the 10 day vacation somewhere else.

Frankly, before my parents moved to Canada few years back, I never thought of visiting Canada for pleasure.
you Are rite.but two daughters best friends r there, they were together in american school.now we have shifted to Dubai,my daughters wants to meet them, unfortunately i don't have any friendship with their parents.so i can not ask them to send me the invitation letter. And it was my promise with my daughters that if they will achieve good result in their study,i will take them to Canada.and they really worked hard to achieve a good result.
 

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i guess i understand where esstee is coming from. you don't have to have a family in France to visit Paris; or anywhere else in the world to be able to see what's in another country. she mentioned about taking her kids with her and i think what she wants here is to have a good quality time with them. or to be able to establish that she/her family can afford to travel and has no intentions of staying in another country illegally to probably jumpstart the ability to apply for other visas such as tourist visa to the US or anywhere else.

@esstee - are you employed? also, it would help if you present proof that your kids are studying/will study in a school based in Dubai and that they are expected to return and continue schooling. present properties that are under your name. i am thinking that properties under your husband's name may not be much of help since he's not coming with you although it would be a good idea if he applies for a TRV with you as well, not necessarily go with you in Canada - to lessen the possibilities of being questioned. this way, you could use your business as one of the things to prove that you have all the intentions to go back to Dubai after the 10 days vacation.

 

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Esstee said:
you Are rite.but two daughters best friends r there, they were together in american school.now we have shifted to Dubai,my daughters wants to meet them, unfortunately i don't have any friendship with their parents.so i can not ask them to send me the invitation letter. And it was my promise with my daughters that if they will achieve good result in their study,i will take them to Canada.and they really worked hard to achieve a good result.
zac989 is right, people do visit Paris. However, France doesn't face the kind of immigration situation that Canada faces. There is an average of 250,000 new immigrants who arrive in Canada every year. In the past, many came on tourist visa and remained in the country illegally. Not many people have friends or relatives in Paris to stay with but many foreigners have friends and relatives in Canada. Visa officers are tasked with giving visitor visa to only people whom they are sure will return to home country by the end of their visitor visa.

Now,lets focus on your situation. Perhaps you can get Invitation Letter from the friends of your two daughters. This is a valid reason and believable reason to visit Canada rather than just saying in your application that you want to come to Canada as a tourist.

What to do next? I think you should apply for the visitor visa again and include a Letter of Invitation saying your daughters friends are inviting them to visit Canada. Also, include "Explanation Letter" saying you have very strong ties to your country of residence...after all, your husband will still be there. Yes, the Visa Officer can know that your husband will remain in your country of residence by simply reading through your visa application, but it helps spelling it out for him or her.

Good luck.
 

Pippin

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Did you include an itinerary with your app? I can see why the VO might question the purpose of visit. Explaining the use of a trip as reward for hard work at school and providing proof of improved grades to backup the statement might help. The other thing that makes me question is that my children's best friends parents are known to me. If the children's relationships were that important then I would ask for the invitation letter if that was required to get the visa. The VO would wonder why you would travel all that way for such a short time with four children if you didn't know the family well enough to get a simple letter. I hope this helps you see this from the VO perspective so you can prepare a strong application.
 

Esstee

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zac989 said:

i guess i understand where esstee is coming from. you don't have to have a family in France to visit Paris; or anywhere else in the world to be able to see what's in another country. she mentioned about taking her kids with her and i think what she wants here is to have a good quality time with them. or to be able to establish that she/her family can afford to travel and has no intentions of staying in another country illegally to probably jumpstart the ability to apply for other visas such as tourist visa to the US or anywhere else.

@ esstee - are you employed? also, it would help if you present proof that your kids are studying/will study in a school based in Dubai and that they are expected to return and continue schooling. present properties that are under your name. i am thinking that properties under your husband's name may not be much of help since he's not coming with you although it would be a good idea if he applies for a TRV with you as well, not necessarily go with you in Canada - to lessen the possibilities of being questioned. this way, you could use your business as one of the things to prove that you have all the intentions to go back to Dubai after the 10 days vacation.

dear Zac989,thank you so much for your good advise,definitely i will convince my husband to apply with us, i think this is a good idea.i will update you later.pray for me. :)
 

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ESSTEE : You really need to have an invitation letter, they simply don't give visa's to anyone who are going for "JUST TOURISM"
That's not true. My wife's relatives got their visit visas without any invitation letter.
 

Pippin

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I don't understand how the husband's trv application "not to travel with them" will help. I would think having your husband staying back improves your ties. Having property in BOTH your names would strengthen your ties by showing you have assets in country of residence as well as close family to pull you back home.
 

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Pippin said:
I don't understand how the husband's trv application "not to travel with them" will help. I would think having your husband staying back improves your ties. Having property in BOTH your names would strengthen your ties by showing you have assets in country of residence as well as close family to pull you back home.
Pippin, in terms of ties, you are absolutely right about the fact that having your husband back in that country would show the VO you will return to your country of residence. However, there is another issue here......."I'm just going to Canada on vacation without my spouse" may not be believed by the VO.

And in terms of the invitation letter....well, it is not a required document. But it helps tremendously.
 

zac989

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File Transfer...
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Med's Request
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Med's Done....
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Interview........
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VISA ISSUED...
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LANDED..........
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O_guy said:
Pippin, in terms of ties, you are absolutely right about the fact that having your husband back in that country would show the VO you will return to your country of residence. However, there is another issue here......."I'm just going to Canada on vacation without my spouse" may not be believed by the VO.

And in terms of the invitation letter....well, it is not a required document. But it helps tremendously.

thanks for clarifying, O_guy, that's what I was trying to convey. :)
it is easier to convince the VO that the trip is to travel as a family and that the husband will have to go back to the business they have heavily invested on
of course it will be a different hurdle later on at the POE but we'll deal with that later 8)


Esstee said:
dear Zac989,thank you so much for your good advise,definitely i will convince my husband to apply with us, i think this is a good idea.i will update you later.pray for me. :)

you're welcome Esstee, good luck! Canada is a good place to visit, a good experience for the family especially the kids. :)
 

Esstee

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zac989 said:

thanks for clarifying, O_guy, that's what I was trying to convey. :)
it is easier to convince the VO that the trip is to travel as a family and that the husband will have to go back to the business they have heavily invested on
of course it will be a different hurdle later on at the POE but we'll deal with that later 8)



you're welcome Esstee, good luck! Canada is a good place to visit, a good experience for the family especially the kids. :)
.zac989 and O_guy, thanx alot for your opinions, one more thing if you guys help me. What if we apply for december(for new year and x-mas). Is it going to help?Further more should we apply now for the new year or what do you suggest ??