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Bert32

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Need help regarding eligibility rule specifically:

- You must satisfy an immigration officer that you will leave Canada at the end of your authorized stay.

Me & my wife are currently working here in the Middle East, I'm planning to get Diploma in Health Information in Toronto next year. We are having trouble deciding if she will come with me on open work permit, because she has a health problem(Thyroid Cancer). Would that satisfy the Immigration Officer that I will come back here in the Middle East with my wife? or would it be better if she would be included in my application in an open work permit?

If ever it would be good for us to go there together, my only argument left that I would leave Canada after my visa expire is that I have a land property in our home country :-\

Please help.

Thank you very much!
 

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Bert32 said:
Need help regarding eligibility rule specifically:

- You must satisfy an immigration officer that you will leave Canada at the end of your authorized stay.

Me & my wife are currently working here in the Middle East, I'm planning to get Diploma in Health Information in Toronto next year. We are having trouble deciding if she will come with me on open work permit, because she has a health problem(Thyroid Cancer). Would that satisfy the Immigration Officer that I will come back here in the Middle East with my wife? or would it be better if she would be included in my application in an open work permit?

If ever it would be good for us to go there together, my only argument left that I would leave Canada after my visa expire is that I have a land property in our home country :-\

Please help.

Thank you very much!

Every applicant must satisfy an immigration officer that he/she will leave Canada at the end of his/her authorized stay. In your case, you can either apply together with your wife or apply separately. I would say considering her medical condition, you should apply first and later should help her with application (for open work permit). However, whatever the the outcome of your application is, you MUST keep in mind, as you will be International student, so you will be covered under group medical coverage from your college/uni, However what I am wondering is that if your wife needs medical attention which is damn expensive here who will be covering it?
 

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sabby2612 said:
Every applicant must satisfy an immigration officer that he/she will leave Canada at the end of his/her authorized stay. In your case, you can either apply together with your wife or apply separately. I would say considering her medical condition, you should apply first and later should help her with application (for open work permit). However, whatever the the outcome of your application is, you MUST keep in mind, as you will be International student, so you will be covered under group medical coverage from your college/uni, However what I am wondering is that if your wife needs medical attention which is damn expensive here who will be covering it?
i agree with u ....serious condition like cancer may cause rejection not sure.....better u apply alone first....as for insurance it is very expensive to buy dependent insurance and in ur case an insurance that will cover cancer is very difficult to find as it could be considered as a pre-existing condition and many insurance will not cover cancer treatments and drugs. but again i am not completely sure .
 

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mead said:
i agree with u ....serious condition like cancer may cause rejection not sure.....better u apply alone first....as for insurance it is very expensive to buy dependent insurance and in ur case an insurance that will cover cancer is very difficult to find as it could be considered as a pre-existing condition and many insurance will not cover cancer treatments and drugs. but again i am not completely sure .
Thank you guys for the reply

Right now she is under my sponsorship here in UAE, and my medical insurance would be covering her operation this coming December or January after 3 months she would be undergoing Radio-iodine Therapy for one time and her maintenance drug would cost around $6.00. I've read some of the post in the other forums & some got PR approval for their spouse with other types of cancer.

I guess it would be better to follow sabby2612's suggestion. I'll file my application this April 2014 for the September 2014 school year, and after maybe 6 months I'll file for her application.

Thank you sabby & mead!
 

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Any kind of approval to stay in Canada for more than 6 months needs to be accompanied by a medical exam. So if your wife is to be allowed into Canada through any means (visitor, worker etc), temporary as it may be, she will still need to go through a medical exam. Here is where it may cause problems. They will weigh your wife's current (and future) health condition against if it can become a burden on the Canadian health system. They may also consider that if you later become a PR of canada through any means, that means Canada will be on the hook for treatments.

consider this, they require non-accompanying family members to go through medical exams for people applying for PR and even reject applications if someone is found in-admissible due to medical reasons. Because they consider that the person may not accompany you to Canada right now but you may very well apply for them in the future and special considerations may have to made if its an immediate family member. So they try to avoid the whole scenario by rejecting the principal applicant first time around.

Not trying to scare you or anything, but you have to consider every little detail and be prepared.
 

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Bert32 said:
Thank you guys for the reply

Right now she is under my sponsorship here in UAE, and my medical insurance would be covering her operation this coming December or January after 3 months she would be undergoing Radio-iodine Therapy for one time and her maintenance drug would cost around $6.00. I've read some of the post in the other forums & some got PR approval for their spouse with other types of cancer.

I guess it would be better to follow sabby2612's suggestion. I'll file my application this April 2014 for the September 2014 school year, and after maybe 6 months I'll file for her application.

Thank you sabby & mead!

It's not a bad idea at all. Though what you should or can also do is, during the time when you submit your wife's file, you will need to disclose if she has any serious ailment or had any in the past. Though with God's grace, she will be all fine insha allah, but then even if there is any issue at that time at all, get her insurance cover done before you apply which should cover her even in Canada and do attach relevant documents and also provide detail explanation in SOP to avoid any delays in processing.

Wish you Luck!
 

Bert32

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just_do_it said:
Any kind of approval to stay in Canada for more than 6 months needs to be accompanied by a medical exam. So if your wife is to be allowed into Canada through any means (visitor, worker etc), temporary as it may be, she will still need to go through a medical exam. Here is where it may cause problems. They will weigh your wife's current (and future) health condition against if it can become a burden on the Canadian health system. They may also consider that if you later become a PR of canada through any means, that means Canada will be on the hook for treatments.

consider this, they require non-accompanying family members to go through medical exams for people applying for PR and even reject applications if someone is found in-admissible due to medical reasons. Because they consider that the person may not accompany you to Canada right now but you may very well apply for them in the future and special considerations may have to made if its an immediate family member. So they try to avoid the whole scenario by rejecting the principal applicant first time around.

Not trying to scare you or anything, but you have to consider every little detail and be prepared.
Then it would be better to apply directly with her in my application, since I don't want to leave her here for more than a year. Besides her condition has good prognosis, at least that what every doctors says, she'll have her full treatment by December. Hopefully by April or March I'll file for our visa.

I'm still confused though with the rule "You must satisfy an immigration officer that you will leave Canada at the end of your authorized stay". I have a land property back in our home country, would it satisfy the visa officer?
 

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just_do_it said:
Any kind of approval to stay in Canada for more than 6 months needs to be accompanied by a medical exam. So if your wife is to be allowed into Canada through any means (visitor, worker etc), temporary as it may be, she will still need to go through a medical exam.
Really? they must have forgotten that when they approved my application and gave me three years.

seriously, it depends on which country you are from so don't say it as a fact. Information on who needs and do not need a medical is on the CIC website. It also depends on what type of program you would be studying.

Here is where it may cause problems. They will weigh your wife's current (and future) health condition against if it can become a burden on the Canadian health system. They may also consider that if you later become a PR of canada through any means, that means Canada will be on the hook for treatments.
This, on the other hand, is true.
 

Bert32

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itstime said:
seriously, it depends on which country you are from so don't say it as a fact. Information on who needs and do not need a medical is on the CIC website. It also depends on what type of program you would be studying.
Im planning to take 2 years diploma in health information management, were from the philppines currently working in united arab emirates for 6 years now.

United Arab Emirates is not on the list, but if she'll apply for open work permit she will be required to have a medical exam. :(

Its is also written on CIC website regarding PR:

"(3) Some groups of permanent resident applicants are exempt from the excessive demands assessment:

•family class sponsored spouses, common-law partners and dependent children"
 

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Bert32 said:
Its is also written on CIC website regarding PR:

"(3) Some groups of permanent resident applicants are exempt from the excessive demands assessment:

•family class sponsored spouses, common-law partners and dependent children"
There is a massive, huge, humungos, HUGE, gigantic, HUGE (Did I say HUGE?) difference between PR applications and study permit applications. HUGE!