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I am a Canadian citizen working in the USA for many years. Here I have met the girl I want to marry but unfortunately she is not legal in the USA. She is an undocumented Mexican immigrant. My company is now talking about transferring me to Canada in the spring of 2009. What steps do I need to take to get her into Canada legally? Should I marry her first in the USA (this will probably ruin my status in the USA on H1-B) or do we have to go to Mexico, marry and leave her there until all paperwork is in order. Leaving her in Mexico is not a safe option.
I’m desperate, running out of time and need to be pointed in the right direction. Is this a situation that can only be helped with a good lawyer?
 

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If you have lived with her for 12 months, you qualify as common law and if you are on a work permit in Canada, you can apply for an open work permit for her as your common law wife.
 

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Thank you for your reply.
I have lived with her for 4+yrs and have been hesitant on getting married because of the negative effect it may have on me applying for PR here in the USA (her not being legal). I am still approx 4 years from that. I feel it way too unfair to her to wait that much longer with no commitment. Then the market crash here has opened my eyes to what is really important in my life. She does not have legal status here, surly that will complicate things when applying for any visa.
Thanks for any help.
 

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If you are considered a skilled worker and your employer lets you stay in Canada, he can help you apply for a PR card here via provincial nominee program and you apply for your spouse at the same time. If your employer doesn't want to help you but you are still on a skilled work permit, if you are here two years on a skilled permit, you can apply for permanent residency by yourself via Canadian experience class.
 

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I am a Canadian citizen. There is no problem with me working in Canada. I work in the USA on a H1-B visa. The -problem is with how do I bring in my girlfriend to Canada after we marry. She does not currently have legal status here in the USA so how do I go about getting a Canadian visa for someone in that situation. If she were legal here it would be much easier through the normal channels but this is not as simple as it may first seem.
Thank you again.
 

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Since you are a citizen, sorry I missed that, you can't get an open work permit for her right away but you can sponsor her for PR instead. You could actually have done that from the US already. Her status in the US is not a problem for Canada. You could start your sponsorship application for her right now. You just have to prove that you intend to settle in Canada which will be easy because your company is transferring you. If you start your sponsorship now, it would be an outland type sponsorship. If she had legal status in the US at some point, you might be able to do it through the US, otherwise it would have to go through Mexico. If they want her to interview, she would have to go there but they don't always call people for interview. Another option, take her with you on a tourist visa when you go to Canada and apply inland. It takes longer than outland, 1-2 years to get PR for her but she can get open work permit after about 6 months.
 

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I’m not sure it’s that easy because of her status here. It was just in the past couple of week’s work started talk of me being sent back to Canada and I‘m looking forward to it. The USA is ok but it’s not home. They won’t transfer me for a few months so I have some time. I really don’t want any part of going to Mexico. Most likely I will have to speak to a lawyer in Canada. I can’t afford any surprises at the border. Has anyone on here been highly satisfied with their lawyer at a reasonable cost and willing to give a recommendation?
Thanks for reading my post Leon and offering advice.
 

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Do you think she would not be able to cross the border to Canada? Mexicans do not need a visa to visit Canada.
 

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If we were coming in from Mexico perhaps but if we try to enter from the US and there is a problem, then we are screwed because she would not be able to just turn around and re-enter the US. She would be deported to Mexico and then we start the long process of trying to get her in from there.
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Then if you can sponsor her for PR through the US, maybe it would be safer because she could stay in the US until she has her PR visa, then come to Canada. Other illegals have applied through the US and been successful. Maybe you should look into that.
 

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What do you think the timeframe for all that would be? I am totally ignorant of the whole process but currently trying to learn all I can. This transfer to Canada may happen in March or April. Does that give me enough time?
I really appreciate you taking the time to reply, thanks again.
 

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If you can apply through the US, your file is first in Canada for ca. 7 weeks for sponsorship approval, then goes to Buffalo where the average is 5 months.
 

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I am a Canadian citizen. There is no problem with me working in Canada. I work in the USA on a H1-B visa. The -problem is with how do I bring in my girlfriend to Canada after we marry. She does not currently have legal status here in the USA so how do I go about getting a Canadian visa for someone in that situation. If she were legal here it would be much easier through the normal channels but this is not as simple as it may first seem.
Thank you again.
The fact that she does not have legal status in the US will not have any impact on her qualifying to be sponsored by you, as a spouse, for permanent status in Canada. What is impacted is her ability to stay in the States . . . so, if Mexico is not a "safe" solution, my suggestion would be that you marry in the States (or in Mexico if she can't marry in the States for some reason) when it's not an issue with your HB1 status anymore, and then you follow the directions at this US2Canada link for bringing her into Canada with you - paying special attention to the part about "Visitor Records".

You have two choices for filing a PR application - inland or outland. I'd suggest an outland PR application that will be processed through Mexico City because it's faster and you have the right of appeal. They are currently finalizing applications in 5-9 months, where it takes 12-18 months to be finalized via an inland application. If she has any family in Mexico she can use their address as her residential address, and use your Canadian address as her mailing address on the application, and she can file to extend her temporary status in Canada, by mail using this extension application, if her PR is not finalized by the time her temporary status in Canada is due to expire. Just be sure that CIC receives her extension application BEFORE her temporary status expires and then she's good to stay in Canada until they make a decision on the extension, or her PR is approved.

Even though filing outland means that any interview will be held in Mexico City and that she may have to travel there to get her Confirmation of Permanent Residence documents so that she can "land" in Canada, it takes much less time than the inland ap to be done and there is no residency requirement for outland applicants.

If you want to file inland and have the entire process happen in Canada, even though it takes longer, be sure to file the inland application prior to expiration of the status she receives when she enters Canada with you. File the extension application linked to above WITH the PR application, and select "initial work permit". That will protect her status in Canada until after the first stage of assessment is completed on the PR application (appx 6 months). After she receives first stage approval (AIP), she'll be issued an open work permit and can get a job. It will be another 6-12 months from there until PR is finalized, but she will be able to stay in Canada with you, work and in most cases, have healthcare. She can't leave Canada, though, during the processing of the inland ap because if she is refused re-entry, the inland application is forfeited and you'd have to start over again with an outland ap.
 

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Thanks RobsLuv.
I just logged on and reading your reply. Looks like a lot of useful info. I still have to go through all of the links you provided. Our hope is that we can take care of all the requirements needed to get into Canada from inside the US. If she leaves the US she won’t be able to get back into the US and then if my company changes their mind about transferring me to Canada (quite possible) then we would be screwed. She doesn’t work here in the US or have a driver’s license and unless Obama rewrites some laws after being elected she might never be able to do any of these things. Canada is where we want to settle so we need to get this sorted soon.