Need advice: Filipino Nurse to take assessment in BC

[mark021202]

Hi! Im new to this forum and I can see that people here provide great advice to us who need help with regards to visiting/working in Canada. I would love to hear your advice on my case.

Im a Filipino, currently working as an endoscopy/GI nurse here in the Philippines. My father pushed me to apply for registration to both Saskatchewan and British Columbia. I already passed everything for assessment, and Im now waiting for SaskatchewanRNA to finish the assessment and give me both a permission to take the CRNE and a graduate nurse license. BC, on the other hand, requires me to complete the Substantially Equivalent Competenct (SEC) assessment for General/Medical Nursing. I plan on scheduling it on February so Im currently in the process of getting all my documents ready and applying for a TRV, which CRNBC requested the Visa Office to approve/provide me with.

My question is, do I have a good chance of getting employment in Canada as a Graduate Nurse, or even as an RN "if" I pass the exam, given that I have no PR/Work permit for Canada? I have good scores in IELTS, and a job offer will land me 76 points for immigration. I think my anxiety lies in the fact that I'm not so sure if there are a number of hospitals/medical institutions there who offer sponsorship...

Any help/information regarding the employment opportunities there as an IEN without PR/Work permit will be so highly appreciated.

Oh, and thanks for reading my long post! Have a nice day!

 

[rogue2578]

Hello there, based from a lot of nurses forum you have a very slim chance of getting a TRV. I've read plenty of cases where they were denied especially if you will provide proofs or specific details about your SEC or CRNE.

Best thing you should do is to apply for TRV but establish provide evidence of genuine tourist intentions. Such as tour itinerary , proofs of hotel accommodations, invitations to a wedding etc.. or something like that.

There are lot of opportunities in BC, but all you need to search and then send a good resume. Thus everything will follow which includes work sponsorship.

 

[job_seeker]

Hi! Im new to this forum and I can see that people here provide great advice to us who need help with regards to visiting/working in Canada. I would love to hear your advice on my case.

Im a Filipino, currently working as an endoscopy/GI nurse here in the Philippines. My father pushed me to apply for registration to both Saskatchewan and British Columbia. I already passed everything for assessment, and Im now waiting for SaskatchewanRNA to finish the assessment and give me both a permission to take the CRNE and a graduate nurse license. BC, on the other hand, requires me to complete the Substantially Equivalent Competenct (SEC) assessment for General/Medical Nursing. I plan on scheduling it on February so Im currently in the process of getting all my documents ready and applying for a TRV, which CRNBC requested the Visa Office to approve/provide me with.

My question is, do I have a good chance of getting employment in Canada as a Graduate Nurse, or even as an RN "if" I pass the exam, given that I have no PR/Work permit for Canada? I have good scores in IELTS, and a job offer will land me 76 points for immigration. I think my anxiety lies in the fact that I'm not so sure if there are a number of hospitals/medical institutions there who offer sponsorship...

Any help/information regarding the employment opportunities there as an IEN without PR/Work permit will be so highly appreciated.

Oh, and thanks for reading my long post! Have a nice day!

You can't work legally in Canada without a work permit. You can come as an immigrant though since RN is one of the 38 jobs under the Federal Skilled Workers category or the PNP route:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/apply-who-instructions.asp#list
http://www.aved.gov.bc.ca/provincialnominee/strategicoccupations/welcome.htm

 

[mark021202]

@rogue2578

Hmm.. But I will be going there just for the SEC, and CRNBC even gave me a Letter of Invitation for me to present to the Visa Officer when I apply for a TRV. Does that mean I have to book for tours and such in order to be given a TRV? I will just be staying there for a month, and I will be declaring that I am just on-leave from my job. Oh and I ticked Multiple Entry, so that if ever I pass the assessment, I can go back on a later date to take the CRNE. I really have no other reason to go there besides my nursing registration, really. Any advice on this?

There are lot of opportunities in BC, but all you need to search and then send a good resume. Thus everything will follow which includes work sponsorship.

Ok, thank you for lifting my spirits there. I passed the NCLEX and gave up on the idea on working in the US in the near future because of the retrogression issue with the Philippines.


@job_seeker

Thank you for the reply. I apologize if I what I said was kind of vague. What I meant to say was, I have no Work Permit/PR there "currently", but I will definitely work on that in the future once I pass the CRNE. I was asking that given my circumstances, are employers there entertaining IEN job seekers who have a Graduate Nurse license OR has already passed the CRNE even if they "currently" dont have Work Permits/PR status?

Or in short, are my chances of getting a sponsorship ok?

 

[job_seeker]

@ rogue2578

Hmm.. But I will be going there just for the SEC, and CRNBC even gave me a Letter of Invitation for me to present to the Visa Officer when I apply for a TRV. Does that mean I have to book for tours and such in order to be given a TRV? I will just be staying there for a month, and I will be declaring that I am just on-leave from my job. Oh and I ticked Multiple Entry, so that if ever I pass the assessment, I can go back on a later date to take the CRNE. I really have no other reason to go there besides my nursing registration, really. Any advice on this?

There are lot of opportunities in BC, but all you need to search and then send a good resume. Thus everything will follow which includes work sponsorship.

Ok, thank you for lifting my spirits there. I passed the NCLEX and gave up on the idea on working in the US in the near future because of the retrogression issue with the Philippines.


@ job_seeker

Thank you for the reply. I apologize if I what I said was kind of vague. What I meant to say was, I have no Work Permit/PR there "currently", but I will definitely work on that in the future once I pass the CRNE. I was asking that given my circumstances, are employers there entertaining IEN job seekers who have a Graduate Nurse license OR has already passed the CRNE even if they "currently" dont have Work Permits/PR status?

Or in short, are my chances of getting a sponsorship ok?

Don't buy any ticket yet. Get your tickets when you have your visa. As long as you have ties in the Philippines- stable job, properties, family, and you had a record of travels, your chances of getting a visa are good. Get a "feel" of the need. Browse job sites in Canada. Employers are more inclined to entertain applicants who are already in Canada, because sometimes they don't want to wait.

 

[mark021202]

@job_seeker

GREAT advice! Thank you so much for that. Im much much less anxious now about the visa application and the employment opportunity. Ill make sure to look for jobs both online and on-site "if ever" I get there. I will do everything legally so that there will be no problems in the future. All I can do now is pray that my application will push through when I submit it, so that the only thing I'll be worrying about is the assessment exam and my review for the CRNE. Thank you SO much for lifting my anxiety. Godbless!

 

[pongkay23]

hi there, im new to the forum and i happen to read your concerns. I hope im not too late to give my advice. I m also a filipino nurse and like you i applied for a tourist visa to take my crne in manitoba. I was granted a visitor visa two years ago, provided proofs to come back to philippines after the exam. It was a bonus that my sister is a permanent resident here. She wrote an invitation letter stating i am coming here for the exam. I did not book tours as my intention was not for vacation. My sister pledge for support while i was here in canada. After i passed my exam, i applied for a job. One was willing to sponsor me. They are in dire need of nurses. As long as your registered, you will not have a problem in looking for a sponsor.

Anyway, i went home and processed by working visa in the Philippines. You dont have to go home if you have a sponsor. You can apply for work visa here in canada.

However, my boyfriend did the same processed as i did. But he was refused TRV. They said he did not provide sufficient proofs to convince the consul. Even when there was a letter from CRNM that he was scheduled to take the exam. But my boyfriend did not loose hope. He sent an application letter to all regional health authorities in manitoba and applied for a job through email. In less than a month, many replied. He chose one employer and they sponsored his work visa as Graduate Nurse (those who are not registered but waiting to write the exam). So he came to canada with work permit and was employed in a hospital while waiting for the exam.

Goodluck, hope all ends well

 

[rn_2009]

hello again i was really enlightened with ur posts and the link you gave me. Im just confused with this:

Is work experience as a registered nurse a requirement for registration?
Applicants are required to have worked a minimum of 1125 hours as an RN in the past five years. We do not require practice hours from applicants who have graduated from a basic nursing education program within the past four years.

I just graduated Last MArch 2009, so does it mean I dont need an experience?

 

[lovelen]

hi there, im new to the forum and i happen to read your concerns. I hope im not too late to give my advice. I m also a filipino nurse and like you i applied for a tourist visa to take my crne in manitoba. I was granted a visitor visa two years ago, provided proofs to come back to philippines after the exam. It was a bonus that my sister is a permanent resident here. She wrote an invitation letter stating i am coming here for the exam. I did not book tours as my intention was not for vacation. My sister pledge for support while i was here in canada. After i passed my exam, i applied for a job. One was willing to sponsor me. They are in dire need of nurses. As long as your registered, you will not have a problem in looking for a sponsor.

Anyway, i went home and processed by working visa in the Philippines. You dont have to go home if you have a sponsor. You can apply for work visa here in canada.

However, my boyfriend did the same processed as i did. But he was refused TRV. They said he did not provide sufficient proofs to convince the consul. Even when there was a letter from CRNM that he was scheduled to take the exam. But my boyfriend did not loose hope. He sent an application letter to all regional health authorities in manitoba and applied for a job through email. In less than a month, many replied. He chose one employer and they sponsored his work visa as Graduate Nurse (those who are not registered but waiting to write the exam). So he came to canada with work permit and was employed in a hospital while waiting for the exam.

Goodluck, hope all ends well

Hi there... I’m also new in the forum. I’d like to know if both of you were asked to undergo a SEC assessment in Manitoba? Knowing that your boyfriend was denied of a TRV, I just got curious on how he could have been allowed to take the CRNE without going to Canada to do the SEC assessment first? I actually applied for my elgibility in British Columbia and I was told to undergo a General Sec Assessment before I can be scheduled to take the CRNE. Can I go ahead and apply for a job in Manitoba by sending my application thru email too?

 

[celo]

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TRV denied.Please help
« on: January 30, 2008, 02:04:12 am »

My daughter is a Registered Nurse and currently employed on a permanent status as OR Staff Nurse III in one of the biggest Cardiology Specialist hospital in the Philippines for more than two years now. She applied and was confirmed by CRNBC to write the examination on February 6, 2008.She applied for TRV last November 2007 planning to go to Canada earlier, to do some review, but her first application for TRV was denied.

She filed a new application on January 11, 2008 attaching some other documents; Letter of confirmation from CRNBC confirming her to write the exam on Feb. 6, 2008; copy of her Letter request to the Head of Office requesting for 15 days leave to go to Canada to write the exam, committing herself to go back to work after Feb 16. which was approved; Original copy of her Duly approved leave(Feb. 1-15, 2008) by her Head of Office, specifying that she will travel to Canada to write the exam; Copy of her schedule of duties after her approved leave (duly signed by the Head Nurse); Employment certification, specifying her salary, length of service and status as permanent employee; copy of her income tax return; Letter of invitation from her sister, married to a Canadian (notarized ,both signed by her sister and her husband)specifying that they will look after all her needs and give her a place to stay while she is in Canada to take the exam, they attached copies of their passport, marriage certificate, notice of assessment from Canada Revenue Agency; original bank certifications of her proof of funds, enough to cover her all expenses for her travels......

On January 17 her application for TRV was again denied with the same reasons as in her first application for TRV; that the Officer ,Temporary Resident Unit was not satisfied that she meet the requirements of Regulation 179, that she will leave Canada at the end of her temporary period if authorized to enter.

Because she was not granted a TRV, She will repeat the whole process again in applying for exam at CRNBC as she will not be able to take the exam on Feb 6.

May I then solicit the kind indulgence of members of this forum if they have any idea or tips on what other documents that must be submitted to satisfy the requirements for a TRV aside from the documents specified above.

We will be very grateful for any comments, suggestions and recommendations/tips for our reference in her future application for a TRV. Thank you and more power to this very informative forum

thaiguy
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« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2008, 02:30:14 am »
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The only purpose your daughter could possibly have in writing this test is to become a registered nurse in BC.

So it is clear, whatever evidence she shows to the contrary, that her intent is to go to BC and work.

That's probably why she'll never get a TRV to take the test.

celo

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« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2008, 10:31:35 pm »
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Thank you for your comments...So, therefore, we are made to understand that applications of Internationally trained nurses to take the Canadian Registered Nurse exam,( paying a fee of CAD 485.00) is a futile exercise and waste of time and money as the VISA Officer will not grant them TRV to take the test, because their ultimate purpose is to work as nurse in BC if they pass the exam.Then why does the CRNBC still accept applications of internationally trained nurses to take the exam? I am just confused and wondering why? I reiterate my thanks for your prompt reply..Regards to everybody
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thaiguy
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« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2008, 11:05:23 pm »
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I don't think they bother themselves with the specifics of TRVs and whether the applicants will be allowed into Canada. They are only concerned with eligibility to sit for the exam.

If you think about it, it makes sense. If they told you you're not allowed to register for the exam because they didn't think you'd be allowed in the country, you might reply "but that isn't your decision to make." And you'd be right.

So they allow you to register, and let you figure out how to get into the country.

Probably not all international applicants are denied. I'm thinking that visitors from visa-exempt countries would be allowed to visit for this purpose. But those from non-exempt countries would face higher scrutiny. (I don't know this for sure)
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JM_of_d_East
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« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2008, 02:56:04 pm »
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Let analize all the documents forwarded to Canadian Visa Section:

1. She filed a new application on January 11, 2008 attaching some other documents;
2.Letter of confirmation from CRNBC confirming her to write the exam on Feb. 6, 2008;
3.copy of her Letter request to the Head of Office requesting for 15 days leave to go to Canada to write the exam, committing herself to go back to work after Feb 16. which was approved; Original copy of her Duly approved leave(Feb. 1-15, 2008) by her Head of Office, specifying that she will travel to Canada to write the exam;
4. Copy of her schedule of duties after her approved leave (duly signed by the Head Nurse);
5. Employment certification, specifying her salary, length of service and status as permanent employee;
6. copy of her income tax return; Letter of invitation from her sister, married to a Canadian (notarized ,both signed by her sister and her husband)specifying that they will look after all her needs and give her a place to stay while she is in Canada to take the exam, they attached copies of their passport, marriage certificate, notice of assessment from Canada Revenue Agency;
7. original bank certifications of her proof of funds, enough to cover her all expenses for her travels......


It is very clear that there is one missing link in the application i face same Visa Refused Before but then i submitted one document that gave way for granting me to visit in Canada. Come on just think .
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« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2008, 04:51:05 pm »
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please clarify, what is that missing link/document? Thank you.
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JM_of_d_East
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« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2008, 07:21:20 pm »
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Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations
PART 9: TEMPORARY RESIDENTS
DIVISION 1: TEMPORARY RESIDENT VISA
179. An officer shall issue a temporary resident visa to a foreign national if, following an examination, it is established that the foreign national

(a) has applied in accordance with these Regulations for a temporary resident visa as a member of the visitor, worker or student class;

(b) will leave Canada by the end of the period authorized for their stay under Division 2;

(c) holds a passport or other document that they may use to enter the country that issued it or another country;

(d) meets the requirements applicable to that class;

(e) is not inadmissible; and

(f) meets the requirements of section 30.


This are the contents of regulation 179 the documents above submitted is irrelevant when you will take consideration of 179. So please analyze well. This is my last reply to this post.
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« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2008, 07:52:22 pm »
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JM_of_d_East nice attitude when someone is asking for help!! Thsi forum is for people who have specific needs and need staight up answers..not someone who gives a little but not all because they had to figure it out for themselves so why shouldn't the others! Moderator??

If she's married to a Canadian and has been denied for the TRV, then apply for PR. Thai-guy has mentioned before that the percentage is higher to be accepted, and sometimes quicker.

CANADA NEEDS NURSES!!!!! What's the problem here?
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« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2008, 09:58:47 am »
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to jaydazed:

First of all the reason why the canadian immigration is not giving all the informations is for them to filter the deserving ones to visit and migrate to thier country thus its includes good thinking and resourcefulness on how you will convince the Visa Office to approve for youre application. It doesnt matter if you are a lawyer or something its the documents that counts when applying for TRV or for immigartion status. Thai-guy is correct nurse has a high demand in canada but there is an "if" clause on it. And that is "if you passed the NCLEX licensure exam".
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« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2008, 07:19:16 pm »
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Do you think that she has not shown that she has family ties in her own country that she will leave Canada at the end of the period authorized for their stay under Division 2;

DIVISION 2 has differents Conditions.

CONDITIONS ON TEMPORARY RESIDENTS

General conditions
183. (1) Subject to section 185, the following conditions are imposed on all temporary residents:
(a) to leave Canada by the end of the period authorized for their stay;
(b) to not work, unless authorized by this Part or Part 11; and
(c) to not study, unless authorized by this Part or Part 12.
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« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2008, 10:15:55 pm »
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HI THERE.. well im in the same situation perhaps.. id like to take the college of registered nurses in manitoba examination.. i am about to appply for a tourist visa. id be staying in canada for pn;y 3 days and will go back to the philippines immediately after the 3rd day... is is possoble that theyll grant me a visitor visa with no much difficulty?
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« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2008, 05:10:33 am »
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The only way to be granted with TRV visa is a Letter of Assurance from work or from school the you are with mentioning that they will take the responsibiliy that you will return right away once youre TRV expires.
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« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2008, 05:42:27 am »
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Hello!!!
JM _of _d _East:
My mom has been applied twice but it was refused.
She send a lot of documentation but her visa was denied because they are no convince that she is going to return at the end of her stay for the following reasons: "Family ties in Canada and her country".
My mom is widow, I have2 sisters but they are merried, my mom only take care her mom but they did not send anything that she takes care of her because we did not understand very well what they want.

What do you think we can do?
Thanks a lot for your help