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Decoy24601

Champion Member
Aug 13, 2015
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Vancouver, BC
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
06-04-2016
AOR Received.
28-04-2016
File Transfer...
SA 27-05-2016
Med's Done....
23-03-2016 Upfront
Interview........
Waived
VISA ISSUED...
07-06-2016
LANDED..........
06-07-2016
So, I just landed today at the Point Roberts/Boundary Bay entry. Yes, you can land there without an issue (for anyone wondering).

I had my mother-in-law drive my husband and I down to the border. We told the American side that I'm "flagpoling". He said he had to grab a sticker for my passport quickly and said "Don't go anywhere, I'll chase you down if you do!" in a heavily joking manner. He seemed to be in a very good mood. He came back with mine and handed us our passports and said we were free to turn around.

The Canadian side was a different story. We drove up and my MIL said we were flagpoling. The CBSA guy looked at our passports, scribbled on a piece of paper, and said "Here, take this inside". He looked absolutely unimpressed by everything around him and seemed like he hated his job, to be honest. He literally didn't say anything besides that. He didn't even look at us. So, we went inside and I brought the paper and my documents up to the side. The CBSA officer at the counter acted like it was odd that I had brought my own filled out BSF186 (B4) form. He also seemed to be in a "meh" mood and was the only one inside who wasn't in a good mood and joking/talking with other officers. His stoic face was that of a typical CBSA guy. He told me multiple times that they don't care about clothes, books, etc on the list and that I shouldn't have bother writing it on there. He said I should have only written items that were expensive by themselves. Then he focused on my clarinet. It's worth maaaaybe $800, and that's a generous estimate because that's what I paid for it (it's likely worth much less now that it's used more and damaged). I didn't have a serial number for it because it's in storage at a family member's house. He told me to call that family member and ask if they could look for my clarinet and give me the serial number. I did, but they weren't home, so I couldn't get it. He asked if I had any visitor records etc with me, and I said I had applied for a visitor extension, but I haven't heard anything. He replied in a very slightly irritated tone "Well, you're not going to hear anything about that now". For some reason it was typed on my COPR to ask me if I had ever been denied entry to Canada or refused a permit/visa. The guy asked me "have you had any issues with immigration before?". Because of how he worded it, I said "No, well I had a voluntary withdrawal a year ago" and I was obviously a little confused, since I had mentioned that in my PR application. He had to write it on my COPR. He asked me about 4 different times that I understood Condition 51 and asked me where my husband was, to which I replied "He's sitting down behind me". He had me sit back down again for a while. He called me back up to sign the documents and told me that I could write the serial number on the BSF186 later when I am actually going to bring my goods to Canada. All that hassle for a very simple and easy solution. He made a copy of my BSF186, stapled my COPR to my passport, told me my PR card would get there within 3-6 months (he might has well have just said that he didn't know).

He gave me back my passport and documents. No "Welcome to Canada", not a hint of a smile or congratulations in his face, just a hassle. I seem to be starting a tradition of worse-than-average border crossing experiences. Well, I'm officially a PR now, so I guess that hassle doesn't matter.

Edit: Sorry about my spelling. I've had 2 hours of sleep.
 
Wow, weird. What you describe was exactly what we feared it would be like with my spouse out of status. Instead we had no such issues, the guard was nice.
Is there something unusual about your situation or something? Or maybe they are just cracking down on it somehow.

But like you said you admitted everything on the PR so what the heck were they getting at? I swear these smaller crossings have the worst guards. Amazing how a little power can get to someone's head.



The clarinet issue could be because some instruments are known to be made with endangered species: "Parts or derivatives of endangered species can be found in many common souvenirs such as clothing, jewellery, musical instruments, herbal or traditional medicines, cosmetic creams or food products."
 
I've had bad experiences at the Peach Arch too, so I guess I just have the worst luck with CBSA officers. Every other officer in the room (besides the guy at the booth) seemed friendly. I just happened to have the worst one handling my landing. It wasn't a surprise, really, based on all of my... lovely experiences with the CBSA. On the other hand, I've only ever had one bad experience with an American officer. They're usually more lively than the CBSA guys.

There's nothing unusual about my situation in my opinion. I'm on the younger side, so maybe that's part of their attitude towards me. I honestly think that guy is probably like that with everyone and I wasn't being singled out. He wasn't overly rude either... just a pain and odd. Maybe because of my age they just assumed I had been into more trouble than I let on. Maybe the officer was making a bit of a judgement on my husband and I's age difference when he kept asking me if I fully understood Condition 51. He must not have had any serious concerns by the end, because I was allowed to land.

Oh well. At least they're obligated to let me into Canada now as long as there aren't any serious issues that pop up (which I'm sure there won't be any).
 
the only explanation i can think.. ps: for people who are not from the area like us.. Pt. Roberts is an unique place; isolated from the USA as a whole; due to the treaty of oregon, left to the US. pretty much an orphan land of the US.
this border crossing probably is not used to a complicated landing process like yours.. more like dealing with people like me, who drop off mail and fill up the tank.


Decoy24601 said:
So, I just landed today at the Point Roberts/Boundary Bay entry. Yes, you can land there without an issue (for anyone wondering).

I had my mother-in-law drive my husband and I down to the border. We told the American side that I'm "flagpoling". He said he had to grab a sticker for my passport quickly and said "Don't go anywhere, I'll chase you down if you do!" in a heavily joking manner. He seemed to be in a very good mood. He came back with mine and handed us our passports and said we were free to turn around.

The Canadian side was a different story. We drove up and my MIL said we were flagpoling. The CBSA guy looked at our passports, scribbled on a piece of paper, and said "Here, take this inside". He looked absolutely unimpressed by everything around him and seemed like he hated his job, to be honest. He literally didn't say anything besides that. He didn't even look at us. So, we went inside and I brought the paper and my documents up to the side. The CBSA officer at the counter acted like it was odd that I had brought my own filled out BSF186 (B4) form. He also seemed to be in a "meh" mood and was the only one inside who wasn't in a good mood and joking/talking with other officers. His stoic face was that of a typical CBSA guy. He told me multiple times that they don't care about clothes, books, etc on the list and that I shouldn't have bother writing it on there. He said I should have only written items that were expensive by themselves. Then he focused on my clarinet. It's worth maaaaybe $800, and that's a generous estimate because that's what I paid for it (it's likely worth much less now that it's used more and damaged). I didn't have a serial number for it because it's in storage at a family member's house. He told me to call that family member and ask if they could look for my clarinet and give me the serial number. I did, but they weren't home, so I couldn't get it. He asked if I had any visitor records etc with me, and I said I had applied for a visitor extension, but I haven't heard anything. He replied in a very slightly irritated tone "Well, you're not going to hear anything about that now". For some reason it was typed on my COPR to ask me if I had ever been denied entry to Canada or refused a permit/visa. The guy asked me "have you had any issues with immigration before?". Because of how he worded it, I said "No, well I had a voluntary withdrawal a year ago" and I was obviously a little confused, since I had mentioned that in my PR application. He had to write it on my COPR. He asked me about 4 different times that I understood Condition 51 and asked me where my husband was, to which I replied "He's sitting down behind me". He had me sit back down again for a while. He called me back up to sign the documents and told me that I could write the serial number on the BSF186 later when I am actually going to bring my goods to Canada. All that hassle for a very simple and easy solution. He made a copy of my BSF186, stapled my COPR to my passport, told me my PR card would get there within 3-6 months (he might has well have just said that he didn't know).

He gave me back my passport and documents. No "Welcome to Canada", not a hint of a smile or congratulations in his face, just a hassle. I seem to be starting a tradition of worse-than-average border crossing experiences. Well, I'm officially a PR now, so I guess that hassle doesn't matter.

Edit: Sorry about my spelling. I've had 2 hours of sleep.
 
yijiequ said:
the only explanation i can think.. ps: for people who are not from the area like us.. Pt. Roberts is an unique place; isolated from the USA as a whole; due to the treaty of oregon, left to the US. pretty much an orphan land of the US.
this border crossing probably is not used to a complicated landing process like yours.. more like dealing with people like me, who drop off mail and fill up the tank.
Actually, I've heard of at least a few people who have landed there within the last 1-2 weeks without any issues.
 
Decoy24601 said:
Actually, I've heard of at least a few people who have landed there within the last 1-2 weeks without any issues.

that's horrible.. anyway.. at least it's done. tomorrow is a new day..
lol.. did you celebrate with your husband? i am looking forward to that day.. i was telling my wife; we'd have to go to vegas and remarry again.. lol.
 
yijiequ said:
that's horrible.. anyway.. at least it's done. tomorrow is a new day..
lol.. did you celebrate with your husband? i am looking forward to that day.. i was telling my wife; we'd have to go to vegas and remarry again.. lol.
We ordered pizza. We're not really sure what to do besides that, it hasn't quite sunk in yet ;D.
 
Congrats! You can finally start work/study there!
 
wyho007 said:
Congrats! You can finally start work/study there!

Thank you ;D. It's finally sinking in that I'll never have to be apart from my husband for long periods of time again because of the border. I can actually live/work/study here now.
 
Congrats!!!! We just got PPR I'm wondering if I have to photocopy both our passports or just his. I'm Canadian. But they said his and all accompanying family members. So how're you enjoying Canada? :)
 
neetwo80 said:
Congrats!!!! We just got PPR I'm wondering if I have to photocopy both our passports or just his. I'm Canadian. But they said his and all accompanying family members. So how're you enjoying Canada? :)
I answered you in the April thread just a moment ago ;).

Thank you, I love it here and I'm excited to start working here. It's nice to finally be able to call Canada my home ;D.
 
Thank you! I'm so glad for you too. :D
 
Decoy24601 said:
For some reason it was typed on my COPR to ask me if I had ever been denied entry to Canada or refused a permit/visa.

this is written on everyone's COPR (at least i'm pretty sure it is). I had to answer yes to this and yes is written on my COPR. it means nothing. the officer i had was confused why it's even on the COPR because she said "That's the reason you're applying for PR. it cancels that out!".

sorry you got a grumpy officer. if it makes you feel any better, i don't think anyone said "Welcome to canada" to me either. :) now you can start building your new life in canada. congrats!
 
Oh, thank you, that's a relief. It still felt a little odd to have my voluntary withdrawal written on my COPR. At least the American border guard was nice and joking around with us ;D that made it easier.

I just have to remind myself that the hassle really doesn't matter in the end, because I'm officially a PR now ;D.
 
Decoy24601 said:
I just have to remind myself that the hassle really doesn't matter in the end, because I'm officially a PR now ;D.

yep, exactly! free to be whoever you want to be. enjoy it!