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My landing experience and a few tips: BC PNP, Peace Arch (Douglas) border point

Empirical-Scientist

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Hello PR contendents,

As you may notice from my timeline, I landed on Thursday 2012-06-07 at the Douglas point of entry, which is located on the Peace Arch Provincial Park, Whiterock, BC (i.e. near Vancouver).

First off some background: My application stream was the BC PNP International Post-graduate Pilot Program. I got a Master's degree in BC and that's why I was qualified to go for that stream. It lasted less than 6 months from the time I submitted my CIC application, for a total of less than 10 months.

To complete the landing, I corralled the following documents:

1) Passport + COPR (2 copies, one without a photo)
2) Study and work permits (just in case)
3) Original BC PNP Letter of Acceptance (just in case)
4) BCID card with my current address on it as well as two envelopes mailed directly to me within the last two weeks to prove my current residence address
5) A folder with photocopies of all the applications I ever did for my PR under the aforementioned stream.

Note that number 1 and 4 above turned out to be necessary. The rest served as backups.

To land, I took bus 351 from Bridgeport station down to Whiterock (17th Ave and 152 St. bus stop, to be precise). Then, I called a cab (Pacific cabs at 604-596-6666) to go right to the Canadian Customs building. The cab driver knew exactly where to go -- he parked by the lot in front of the Canadian border point. The fare for this short ride was $15.

I got out of the cab and ran into a couple of Canadian border agents. I asked them what I should actually to do flag-pole. They said I should walk towards the U.S. border control by going through the Peace Arch Park sidewalk. Yes, they now have a pedestrian walkway. On the Canadian side it's located on the east; then, as you cross the International Border Milestone, located parallel to the Peace Arch, you turn right to get on the U.S. sidewalk. Follow the cars, but stick to the sidewalk!

After that, a U.S. agent will most certainly ask what you're walking for. Just mention the keyword, flag-pole, and they'll direct you to get into their building. When you get inside, an officer will ask you whether you've got your orange sheet of paper with you. If you're walking, then you won't have an orange paper; rather, you'll just wait in some line and get the letter of "refusal" from the US agent. This line is pretty fast, since very few do the crossing on foot.

Within 10 minutes and in full kindness on the American side, I got the flag-pole letter and was instructed to go back to Canada from the walkway I entered. On the Canadian side, you usually follow the sidewalk to the first border control point. The agent will look at the flag-pole letter and your passport and immigration visa, will ask you whether you've got $10K or more in your pocket (and you'll probably say no), will issue you a yellow sheet of paper, and will finally instruct you to get into the Canadian customs building. Note that you'll read a letter (A, B, or C) handwritten on your yellow sheet. That letter will instruct you to wait in the appropriate line-up inside the building.

Inside the building, you'll wait in line until called up to the next available agent to have your document reviewed. They'll collect whatever they need to see (in my case, they asked for documents (1) and (4) above). Then, they'll ask you to sit and wait. Within 15 minutes they'll call you with the COPR attached on the opposite page as the immigration visa, unless you'll need to be interviewed. In my case, the agent called me, congratulated me, and asked if I had any questions.

I asked her "When are you going to say it?" Stunned, she replied, "Say what?" I go, "Welcome to Canada!" She smiles in some impression of relief and says the same...

Good luck to all! Let me know if you have any questions.
 
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sanity

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Thanks for sharing - Interesting read !!
All the best!
 

bcimmi

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Congratulations! and thanks for sharing your experience. A quick question: Do you have a US visitor visa, or are you otherwise eligible to visit US without a visa?

Empirical-Scientist said:
Hello PR contendents,

As you may notice from my timeline, I landed on Thursday 2012-06-07 at the Douglas point of entry, which is located on the Peace Arch Provincial Park, Whiterock, BC (i.e. near Vancouver).

First off some background: My application stream was the BC PNP International Post-graduate Pilot Program. I got a Master's degree in BC and that's why I was qualified to go for that stream. It lasted less than 6 months from the time I submitted my CIC application, for a total of less than 10 months.

To complete the landing, I corralled the following documents:

1) Passport + COPR (2 copies, one without a photo)
2) Study and work permits (just in case)
3) Original BC PNP Letter of Acceptance (just in case)
4) BCID card with my current address on it as well as two envelopes mailed directly to me within the last two weeks to prove my current residence address
5) A folder with photocopies of all the applications I ever did for my PR under the aforementioned stream.

Note that number 1 and 4 above turned out to be necessary. The rest served as backups.

To land, I took bus 351 from Bridgeport station down to Whiterock (17th Ave and 152 St. bus stop, to be precise). Then, I called a cab (Pacific cabs at 604-596-6666) to go right to the Canadian Customs building. The cab driver knew exactly where to go -- he parked by the lot in front of the Canadian border point. The fare for this short ride was $15.

I got out of the cab and ran into a couple of Canadian border agents. I asked them what I should actually to do flag-pole. They said I should walk towards the U.S. border control by going through the Peace Arch Park sidewalk. Yes, they now have a pedestrian walkway. On the Canadian side it's located on the east; then, as you cross the International Border Milestone, located parallel to the Peace Arch, you turn right to get on the U.S. sidewalk. Follow the cars, but stick to the sidewalk!

After that, a U.S. agent will most certainly ask what you're walking for. Just mention the keyword, flag-pole, and they'll direct you to get into their building. When you get inside, an officer will ask you whether you've got your orange sheet of paper with you. If you're walking, then you won't have an orange paper; rather, you'll just wait in some line and get the letter of "refusal" from the US agent. This line is pretty fast, since very few do the crossing on foot.

Within 10 minutes and in full kindness on the American side, I got the flag-pole letter and was instructed to go back to Canada from the walkway I entered. On the Canadian side, you usually follow the sidewalk to the first border control point. The agent will look at the flag-pole letter and your passport and immigration visa, will ask you whether you've got $10K or more in your pocket (and you'll probably say no), will issue you a yellow sheet of paper, and will finally instruct you to get into the Canadian customs building. Note that you'll read a letter (A, B, or C) handwritten on your yellow sheet. That letter will instruct you to wait in the appropriate line-up inside the building.

Inside the building, you'll wait in line until called up to the next available agent to have your document reviewed. They'll collect whatever they need to see (in my case, they asked for documents (1) and (4) above). Then, they'll ask you to sit and wait. Within 15 minutes they'll call you with the COPR attached on the opposite page as the immigration visa, unless you'll need to be interviewed. In my case, the agent called me, congratulated me, and asked if I had any questions.

I asked her "When are you going to say it?" Stunned, she replied, "Say what?" I go, "Welcome to Canada!" She smiles in some impression of relief and says the same...

Good luck to all! Let me know if you have any questions.
 

Empirical-Scientist

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bcimmi said:
Congratulations! and thanks for sharing your experience. A quick question: Do you have a US visitor visa, or are you otherwise eligible to visit US without a visa?
I don't as I'm not from a visa-exempt country. But, you won't enter the US; rather, you'll be redirected inside their customs building which technically deals with citizens of any country. So, no worries :). I didn't have a US visa in my passport either.
 

Empirical-Scientist

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Just a clarification regarding point number 4 in the list of required documents (in my first post): You either show your BCID card with the current address OR an envelope addressed to you recently. They're disjunctive :). Good luck! Let me know if you have any questions.
 

Atakan

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<u><b>22-03-2012</b></u>
AOR Received.
<u><b>22-05-2012</b></u>
Med's Request
<u><b>22-05-2012</b></u>
Med's Done....
<u><b>28-05-2012</b></u>
Passport Req..
<u><b>30-08-2013</b></u>
LANDED..........
<u><b>26-09-2013</b></u>
Thank you. That's gonna be very helpful, especially for me.

Atakan
 

Lilfoo

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I am considering to apply through BC PNP International Graduate stream and after reading the first post I got a question: why did you do those actions? Sorry for this basic question, I guess its a part of a process, I just wanted to know why there is this step and what it is essentially about?

Thanks a lot!
 

Empirical-Scientist

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Lilfoo said:
I am considering to apply through BC PNP International Graduate stream and after reading the first post I got a question: why did you do those actions? Sorry for this basic question, I guess its a part of a process, I just wanted to know why there is this step and what it is essentially about?

Thanks a lot!
Well, changing your status to a permanent resident requires you to land as an immigrant, i.e. to come to Canada with an immigrant visa (and related documents). The precursor to PR was exactly a landed immigrant -- the nomenclature has changed. Thus, albeit you apply from within Canada, you still have to "land" as an immigrant.

There are two ways to land as an immigrant. The first is to do what I did -- cross the border symbolically to then enter Canada to claim your new status. The second, which takes longer, is to set up an appointment with a CIC office in your city to complete your landing process there. I'm not familiar with the details of the second method, but I know for sure it's got a long waiting time. (I called a CIC agent to find out, it was about 8-9 weeks for Vancouver and Victoria.)

Good luck with your application! It will be really fast.
 

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So impressive how quickly your application was processed, especially at the federal level. Do you have a lot of travel history?
 

Lilfoo

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Empirical-Scientist, thanks so mush for the details!

Empirical-Scientist said:
It will be really fast.
Hm =) why is it fast? is it a general rule for BC PNP International Graduate Stream? doesn't it depend on my home country?
 

Empirical-Scientist

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cvd222 said:
So impressive how quickly your application was processed, especially at the federal level. Do you have a lot of travel history?
Yes, I'd travel to conferences frequently. Those are short travels, so I don't think they can ever influence the length.
 

Empirical-Scientist

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Lilfoo said:
Empirical-Scientist, thanks so mush for the details!

Hm =) why is it fast? is it a general rule for BC PNP International Graduate Stream? doesn't it depend on my home country?
I could only speculate: The government is trying to entice qualified applicants. They are always given priority since they are seen as strong economic drivers, especially when a province nominates you! That's why the province issues you those green stickers, which you must attach on any outgoing mail to a CIC or visa office :).
 

Lilfoo

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Oh ok, well I am still on the stage of choosing a program, I am 99% toward BC PNP and will search for a job in this province... Unless I find something negative about BC PNP International Graduate stream. May I ask you, do you know any problems that may occur while the process? are there any negative things about BCPNP that make people choose other provinces?
 

Empirical-Scientist

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Lilfoo said:
Oh ok, well I am still on the stage of choosing a program, I am 99% toward BC PNP and will search for a job in this province... Unless I find something negative about BC PNP International Graduate stream. May I ask you, do you know any problems that may occur while the process? are there any negative things about BCPNP that make people choose other provinces?
Thus far this is the safest and fastest :). There are no problems so long as you genuinely comply with every request of the province and the federal govt'.
 

Lilfoo

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Empirical-Scientist said:
Thus far this is the safest and fastest :). There are no problems so long as you genuinely comply with every request of the province and the federal govt'.
That was a pretty encouraging post ;D
I have 5 months to find a job that will qualify under this stream and an employer who would like to help me with this. Can you provide me with some tips at this stage of my process? =)