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Missed answering the representative question

Fabiendamien

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May 17, 2018
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Hello everyone,

After i sent my citizenship application by mail on the 5th of may 2018, i realized that i ‘ve done the following mistakes:

Question 8:

I answered that no one helped me to fill it out. But i didn’t answer if i would like to name a representative. (Second part)

Question 11:
I mentioned all my occupations and locations while i was living in canada and not before that..

Question 13:

I mentioned that i only have the lebanese citizenship but i didn’t mention that i have lived in Qatar with a work permit and Spain as a student.


Can anyone advise if my application will be returned, and if there is anything i can do at that point to fix those inconveniences?

Thanks in advance
 

Seym

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Nov 6, 2017
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There's a high chance your application will be returned since you didn't answer Q11 as expected. Q13 is okay as for getting your AOR and no idea for Q8.
Your best shot, if you're not willing to wait another 2 weeks and send it again, would be to send a new complete application with the same proof of payment and an explanation letter.
 
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Seym

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You can if you want. But you're not obliged. The only important thing is to make sure that the date you signed everything is less than 3 months old at the moment they receive it.
 

Danielnases

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Apr 18, 2018
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Hello everyone,

After i sent my citizenship application by mail on the 5th of may 2018, i realized that i ‘ve done the following mistakes:

Question 8:

I answered that no one helped me to fill it out. But i didn’t answer if i would like to name a representative. (Second part)

Question 11:
I mentioned all my occupations and locations while i was living in canada and not before that..

Question 13:

I mentioned that i only have the lebanese citizenship but i didn’t mention that i have lived in Qatar with a work permit and Spain as a student.


Can anyone advise if my application will be returned, and if there is anything i can do at that point to fix those inconveniences?

Thanks in advance
if it was me I would not send a new application. I would wait for my AOR which I believe you get it soon and then I would inform the officer at the time of interview. I don't think Q8 and 13 are gonna cause any issues. Q11 must be answered only for the period between your PR and application signed date.
 

Fabiendamien

Newbie
May 17, 2018
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“Q11 must be answered only for the period between your pr and appllication signed date”

Pr date is my landing date you mean?

Thanks
 

ZingyDNA

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Aug 12, 2013
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Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-Ottawa
NOC Code......
2111
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-06-2013
AOR Received.
28-08-2013
IELTS Request
Sent with Application
Med's Request
21-02-2014 (principal applicant)
Med's Done....
07-03-2014 (both, upfront for spouse)
Passport Req..
10-04-2014
VISA ISSUED...
22-04-2014
LANDED..........
13-06-2014
if it was me I would not send a new application. I would wait for my AOR which I believe you get it soon and then I would inform the officer at the time of interview. I don't think Q8 and 13 are gonna cause any issues. Q11 must be answered only for the period between your PR and application signed date.
You need to mention your employment and location for entire eligibility period, i.e. 5 years before your sign the application. At least that's what I did... I don't know if not doing that is gonna cause your application to be returned, though.
 
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dpenabill

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Question 11:
I mentioned all my occupations and locations while i was living in canada and not before that..

Question 13:

I mentioned that i only have the lebanese citizenship but i didn’t mention that i have lived in Qatar with a work permit and Spain as a student.


Can anyone advise if my application will be returned, and if there is anything i can do at that point to fix those inconveniences?
The omissions in response to item 13 in the application loom more importantly. But this warrants a separate response (see below), since the first issue to address is the possibility the application will be returned as incomplete, recognizing that Item 11 explicitly asks for employment history for the FULL FIVE (5) YEARS (that is, for the "entire eligibility period") prior to the date of applying and explicitly cautions that any gaps or "missing periods" will result in the application being returned..

As suggested by @ZingyDNA's observations, despite the caution in the application form, the consequences for a failure to completely provide the requested information are not clear.

As for whether an application will be returned because of gaps in information provided for either address history (item 10 in current application) or employment history (item 11), there have been reports going both ways, some reporting their application was returned and others not. Some suggest this variability depends on the person doing the completeness check. My sense is that it depends more on the nature and scope of what is omitted, or other factors. In particular, I suspect small gaps may pass the completeness check while bigger or more blatant gaps will result in the application being returned.

To be clear: the application form itself states that information must be provided for "the entire eligibility period" and cautions "If there are gaps or missing periods you application will be returned to you."

But, again, it is not certain that gaps or omitted periods will indeed always result in the application being returned. Some reports suggest not always. And I do not have a forecast for whether your application will be returned for incompleteness, but obviously the risk of this is substantial.

That said, if the application is returned, NO BIG DEAL. This does not cause a big delay. You simply correct the application and re-submit, or submit a new application (fully completed of course).


Regarding suggestions to submit a new application in the meantime:

I do not offer advice but I can say that when dealing with bureaucracies it often works best to keep things simple, as simple as possible. Submitting multiple applications is kind of the opposite of keeping it simple.

In the meantime this forum is rife with obsessive timeline watching which tends to invite misunderstandings about how things go. Scores and scores of applicants will see applicants who applied weeks and MONTHS after them get to the oath sooner. Applying for citizenship is NOT a race.

Many of those who are impatient will see their applications stalled and taking longer than it takes many others.

Waiting a few weeks, a couple of months, is virtually NOTHING in the general scheme of how citizenship applications flow through the process. Moreover, there are increasing signs that IRCC is indeed struggling some under the weight of the huge surge in applications made since October 11 last year and thus even for those lucky enough to enjoy the faster timelines it appears that may be getting longer.

There is NO good reason to rush submitting a second application. But how to proceed is a personal decision for you to make.


If the application is not returned; if you get AOR:

Otherwise, if this application is not returned, the local office processing agent who assesses the application will obviously recognize that item 11 was not fully completed. If the omitted dates are totally outside all claimed presence in Canada and before date of landing, it is possible this will not cause any problem, any questions at all.

If you get AOR, you can, after that, use the IRCC webform to supplement the additional work history information. Here too, if the omitted period is totally outside date you reported presence in Canada, whether to do that or not is a personal decision. For example, it may suffice to add this information at the time of the interview, IF ASKED. And if not asked, probably no big deal.


Q11 must be answered only for the period between your PR and application signed date.
To be clear, item 11 is actually redundant in that it restates, a total of FOUR times, that the information provided needs to be for the "eligibility period," TWO of those explicitly instruct the applicant to "be sure to provide information for the entire eligibility period."

Nonetheless, I would lean the same way as you, that is, to "not send a new application."

Patience and waiting is often the best way to navigate this process once the application has been submitted . . . and to then watch for notices or communications from IRCC and respond accordingly.



Re item 13 and failure to disclose status in other countries:

Question 13:

I mentioned that i only have the lebanese citizenship but i didn’t mention that i have lived in Qatar with a work permit and Spain as a student.
This will not be a reason to return your application.

This is, however, a significant omission. It is an omission of relevant information since any information requested is, by definition, deemed to be "relevant" (as discussed in decisions where misrepresentations are alleged). Whether these omissions are material can depend on many factors, not the least of which of course is whether or not these occurred within the eligibility period.

There is little doubt: this information should be provided.

NO need to panic. This is information you can correct in the webform AFTER you have received AOR.

If your application is returned as incomplete due to the missing period of time in your item 11 response, you may want to seriously consider submitting a newly completed application and making sure this time to provide complete answers to all the questions asked. Including item 13. Assuming you are remaining in Canada in the meantime, this would also allow you to have more days physically present and a bigger margin over the minimum, which is almost always a good thing.