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Minister Kenney proposes to assess foreign education credentials before skilled workers arrive


http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/media/releases/2012/2012-03-28.asp

News Release – Minister Kenney proposes to assess foreign education credentials before skilled workers arrive

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Ottawa, March 28, 2012 – Canada is proposing a major change to how foreign skilled workers’ education credentials are assessed, Citizenship, Immigration and Multiculturalism Minister Jason Kenney announced today.

The proposed new requirement would mean that applicants wanting to immigrate as Federal Skilled Workers would have their foreign education credentials assessed and verified by designated organizations before they arrive in Canada.

“Our Government is building an immigration system that is focused on economic growth and ensuring that all Canadians, including immigrants, are able to contribute to their maximum capacity,” said Jason Kenney. “By having their foreign education credentials assessed before their arrival to Canada, foreign skilled workers will have a better sense of how their credentials fit into the Canadian labour market and will be able to contribute their full skill set to the economy more quickly. This proposal is part of a broader package of transformational changes that will make Canada’s immigration policies work better for the Canadian economy.”

A pre-arrival assessment would let applicants know how their education credentials compare to Canadian credentials and it will give immigrants a sense of how Canadian employers are likely to value their education. This will also screen out people without proper education levels and is an important step in helping to address the problem of immigrants arriving and not being able to work in their field.

The assessment of international educational credentials would not mean that Federal Skilled Workers would automatically find employment in Canada commensurate with their skills nor would it guarantee that they would become licensed to practice in a regulated occupation. Applicants who intend to work in a regulated profession would likely need to have their qualifications assessed in greater depth for purposes of licensure by a regulatory body specific to their profession and intended province of work.

“Internationally trained workers make an important contribution to Canada’s job market and the economy,” added Diane Finley, Minister of Human Resources and Skills Development. “That’s why our Government is working in partnership to improve foreign credential recognition so that skilled newcomers can put their knowledge and skills to work sooner.”

Minister Kenney also used the occasion to release the 2011 Government of Canada Progress Report on Foreign Credential Recognition, Strengthening Canada’s Economy. The annual report, led by the Foreign Credentials Referral Office, highlights achievements made by Citizenship and Immigration Canada , Human Resources and Skills Development Canada, and Health Canada to help foreign trained individuals integrate into the Canadian workforce.

Highlights of the report include:

expansion of the Canadian Immigration Integration Program (CIIP), which is designed and managed by the Association of Canadian Community Colleges. CIIP currently offers pre-arrival orientation sessions in up to 25 countries, based on demand;
an innovative assessment and bridging program to help internationally educated nurses meet regulatory requirements for licensure across Canada; and
the launch of the International Qualifications Network Website for stakeholders to share information and best practices in credential assessment.
To read the Government of Canada 2011 Progress Report on Foreign Credential Recognition, Strengthening Canada’s Economy, go to: http://www.credentials.gc.ca/fcro/progre
 

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do you happen to know of an agency that offers foriegn educ assessment? how about our work/employment credentials, do we need to have these assessed as early as now? pls advise thanks much :)
 

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The Canadian FSW is fast becoming like the Australian skilled worker migration program. Regulatory agencies in Canada for each profession would be in charge of the assessment for a fee and a certificate, once they okay it, then applicant can now forward application to CIC.
 

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Well as pharmacist a regulated proffesion ,we can send document only for initial evaluation.we as foreign pharmacist cannot be licensed .so no point in wasting money before pr.just process getting lengthy .
 

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siddharth_pharma84 said:
Well as pharmacist a regulated proffesion ,we can send document only for initial evaluation.we as foreign pharmacist cannot be licensed .so no point in wasting money before pr.just process getting lengthy .
now im confuse.. im quite worried about foreign credential being a requirement for july 2012. how likely will this be implemented? im a nurse and my profession is a regulated one as well.
 

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do you happen to know of an agency that offers foriegn educ assessment? how about our work/employment credentials, do we need to have these assessed as early as now? pls advise thanks much :)

http://www.credentials.gc.ca/

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http://www.canadavisa.com/foreign-credential-assessment.html


Canadian Foreign Credential Assessment Services

Canadian assessment of foreign credentials is an important element of immigrant integration into the Canadian workforce.

The Canadian Information Centre for International Credentials (CICIC) (http://www.cicic.ca/) is a central source of information about the services and organizations around Canada that can help with the accreditation of internationally-acquired skills. In addition, Citizenship and Immigration Canada have established a Foreign Credential Referral Office.

Below is a list of credential assessment services in Canada. For a fee, these agencies will provide expert advice on how your qualifications compare to credentials obtained in Canada.

Alberta
International Qualifications Assessment Service (IQAS)
Alberta Advanced Education
9th Floor, Sterling Place
9942 - 108 Street
Edmonton, Alberta T5K 2J5 Canada
Tel.: +1 780 427-2655
Toll-free in Alberta: 310-0000 ask for 427-2655
Fax: +1 780 422-9734
Web site: http://www.advancededucation.gov.ab.ca/iqas/iqas.asp
British Columbia
International Credential Evaluation Service (ICES)
3700 Willingdon Avenue
Burnaby, British Columbia V5G 3H2 Canada
Tel.: +1 604 432-8800
Toll-Free within North America: +1-866-434-9197
Fax: +1 604 435-7033
E-mail: icesinfo @ bcit.ca
Web site: http://www.bcit.ca/ices/

Manitoba
Academic Credentials Assessment Service - Manitoba (ACAS)
Manitoba Labour and Immigration
Settlement & Labour Market Services Branch
5th Floor, 213 Notre Dame Avenue
Winnipeg, Manitoba R3B 1N3 Canada
Tel.: +1 204 945-6300
Fax: +1 204 948-2148
E-mail: glloyd @ gov.mb.ca
Web site: http://www.gov.mb.ca/labour/immigrate/newcomerservices/7a.html

Northwest Territories
International Qualifications Assessment Service
Alberta Advanced Education
9th Floor, Sterling Place
9942 - 108 Street
Edmonton, Alberta T5K 2J5 Canada

Tel.: +1-866-692-7057 (toll free within the Northwest Territories)
or +1 780 427-2655
Web site: http://www.advancededucation.gov.ab.ca/iqas/iqas.asp

Ontario
World Education Services-Canada (WES Canada)
45 Charles Street East, Suite 700
Toronto, Ontario M4Y 1S2 Canada
Tel.: +1 416 972-0070
Fax: +1 416 972-9004
Toll-free: +1 866 343-0070 (from outside the 416 area code)
E-mail: ontario @ wes.org
Web site: http://www.wes.org/ca/

Quebec
Centre d'expertise sur les formations acquises hors du Québec (CEFAHQ)
Ministère de l'Immigration et des Communautés culturelles (MICC)
255, boulevard Crémazie Est, 8e étage
Montréal (Québec) H2M 1M2 Canada
Tél.: +1 514 864-9191 ou +1 877 264-6164
Fax: +1 514 873-8701
E-mail: renseignements @ micc.gouv.qc.ca
Web site: http://www.immigration-quebec.gouv.qc.ca/en/education/comparative-evaluation/index.html

Saskatchewan
International Qualifications Assessment Service
Alberta Advanced Education
9th Floor, Sterling Place
9942 - 108 Street
Edmonton, Alberta T5K 2J5 Canada

Tel.: +1 800 999-3965 (toll free within Saskatchewan)
or +1 780 427-2655
Web site: http://www.advancededucation.gov.ab.ca/iqas/iqas.asp

Comparative Education Service (CES)
University of Toronto
315 Bloor Street West
Toronto, Ontario M5S 1A3 Canada
Tel.: +1 416 978-2190
Fax: +1 416 978-7022
Web site: http://www.adm.utoronto.ca/ces/

International Credential Assessment Service of Canada (ICAS)
Ontario AgriCentre
100 Stone Road West, Suite 303
Guelph, Ontario N1G 5L3 Canada
Tel.: +1 519 763-7282
Toll-free: +1 800 321-6021
Fax: +1 519 763-6964
E-mail: info @ icascanada.ca
Web site: http://www.icascanada.ca/

Canadian Council of Professional Engineers (CCPE)
Engineering International-Education Assessment Program (EIEAP)
180 Elgin Street, Suite 1100
Ottawa, Ontario K2P 2K3 Canada
Tel.: +1 613 232-2474
Fax: +1 613 230-5759
E-mail: evaluation @ ccpe.ca
Web site: http://www.ccpe.ca/
 

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fsw4 said:
now im confuse.. im quite worried about foreign credential being a requirement for july 2012. how likely will this be implemented? im a nurse and my profession is a regulated one as well.
Check also my above post

Nurses

http://www.credentials.gc.ca/immigrants/factsheets/nurse.asp
 

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This mean nothing but extra money, time and effort for All new Immigrants.
his is trying to copy New Zealand assessment point system when you spent $500 extra in fees, and up to six month of time just to get back your assessed documents. In order to score point for education that will allow you to submit an application.

After all its self explanatory: "The pre-arrival assessment does not guarantee applicants will find work in Canada commensurate with their skills, nor does it guarantee they will become licensed in their field.”
 

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With no Guarantee given to applicants regarding getting an ASSURED PR.....Canada is probably seeking another means to generate/collect revenue for itself.

Mitali
 

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@ Cocknbull......Thanks for all the information...+1...ooops my Karma prevented me...waiting for the WAIT to be OVER SOON.

Mitali
 

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With no Guarantee given to applicants regarding getting an ASSURED PR.....Canada is probably seeking another means to generate/collect revenue for itself.

Mitali
I don't think so mitali. I think it is just trying to prevent the initial rush of applicants when the cap opens. Every year they have to come up with something new to add on to the application process so that they do not receive thousands of applications on their door step on the first of July. Like in MI2, they introduced the IELTS and people could send completed applications only in the beginning of August as against July. In MI3, cap reached in a record 8 days for NOC 1122. I guess this time it will be the same for all the professions whose cap have reached in July and August like -Nurse, pharmacists etc.,

To me, it also makes sense because anyways, you have to get the credential evaluation done as part of the licensing process once we are in Canada. So why not do it before you apply. It gives an advantage for those whose credentials are genuine and worthwhile. This deletes an extra step from CIC application processing for the education evaluation and authenticity of the certificates and documents submitted. Not many will agree with me but I think this move is very right. I personally saw examples who failed to obtain a license just because their credentials were not good enough for them to survive in Canada.
 

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I don't think so mitali. I think it is just trying to prevent the initial rush of applicants when the cap opens. Every year they have to come up with something new to add on to the application process so that they do not receive thousands of applications on their door step on the first of July. Like in MI2, they introduced the IELTS and people could send completed applications only in the beginning of August as against July. In MI3, cap reached in a record 8 days for NOC 1122. I guess this time it will be the same for all the professions whose cap have reached in July and August like -Nurse, pharmacists etc.,

To me, it also makes sense because anyways, you have to get the credential evaluation done as part of the licensing process once we are in Canada. So why not do it before you apply. It gives an advantage for those whose credentials are genuine and worthwhile. This deletes an extra step from CIC application processing for the education evaluation and authenticity of the certificates and documents submitted. Not many will agree with me but I think this move is very right. I personally saw examples who failed to obtain a license just because their credentials were not good enough for them to survive in Canada.
Hi NKKD Horton,

I need to clear one thing at the onset, that the above comment by me is actually in response to the scrapping (as if some dirt.... :() of Pre 2008 applicants and the simultaneous news of Credential evaluation.

I agree with your opinion in principle but CIC knew from the very beginning that Credential evaluation is a must ....one does not need to be a rocket scientist to understand that. If you and I can make this simple assessment, then why not CIC? :eek:....what took them so long to implement it......passing regulations/laws at the Parliament? ???

They have known for more than a decade atleast, that DOCTORS DRIVE TAXI in Canada and that a passenger in a cab would be lucky to have a heart attack in a cab...because the taxi driver could be a DOCTOR and provide treatment on the street (with his Credentials that were not acknowledged and accepted by Canada)!!!!!! :(

The " initial rush of applicants" may not be apparent when the Cap opens (if at all) but can you deny that this "rush" would show up at some point of time? CIC got a month's time with the MI2 (for introducing IELTS)...so what was CREDIBLE or beneficial in that change...."nothing". Did any of the applicants gain anything....nothing. Look at the BUFFALO applicants.....you must have seen their timelines.......isn't it atrocious? Similar is the case with Pakistani applicants....I am truly worried about the long time being set aside for Pakistani applicants in the name of "Security assessment" ....they are clueless as to what is going on with their applications and now they are also at the brink of thinking in similar manner - If Canada would scrape them too?

The hope meted out to some lucky Pre 2008 applicant for PNP programs is in no way any SOLACE to the one who has not been chosen for the same. The dreams of the unlucky one has shattered. :( I am just wondering if these applicants have to undergo the Credential evaluation?

The credential evaluation might have streamlined CIC but the applicants have now another thing to worry about for their applications to get the green signal or should I say the yellow signal? ???

Unfortunately, even after credential evaluation, applicants might have to go through the same fate as their previous counterparts. Credential evaluation is not the GUARANTEE for a job in the applicants' own Profession. If there had been a guarantee of "SURE JOB" then it would have been commendable....but the state of affairs of the applicants would remain the same....despite evaluation at the entry point of the application.....so IMO, this is another means to generate revenue.

I was merely pointing at the fact that whatever Canada decides regarding Credential evaluation, which is now, official and mandatory; Canada would continue to earn REVENUE at any cost irrespective of an applicants' success or failure at getting the PR.

What is unethical in my view is when Canada needed immigrants to fill their labor jobs (sorry to say that, but is true), they invited tens and thousands of applicants and now when their need is over (or seems to be over; or they cannot MANAGE the inventory ???) they just scrape applications with a click of fingers.......they made it look so easy and straight forward..... ???

I am sure CIC must have had their reasons and every major decision is in the betterment of the Country ( I hope so). Immigration Canada is re-vamping itself......that's absolutely fair and just, not only for the country but also for the applicant and is ofcourse Good news.

I just hope they deal with the applications more humanely instead of treating them (as they just did with the Pre 2008 applicants) as just " MUTE SHEAF OF PAPER" ,which being invisible to CIC, has been twined with lots of hope and aspirations.

I again Pray for those unfortunate applicants....may they find the strength to stand up and FIGHT if REQUIRED.

Mitali
 

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Well I agree with Mitali.... Credential Verification or whatever, is just gonna show that your education against Canadian education...

Thats it....

So even after that there is gonna be the same procedure and outcome. I can get my Credentials Verified/Assessed, as I have gone through Internationally accredited Unis, but, would it grant me Residency after clearing all the exams? Nope....

Even after getting Credentials "assessed" you are going to have the same fate.

But it would off course cut out the folks with Degrees/Diplomas from non accredited institutions.

Though not sure how it works or how it is gonna give the edge to anyone regarding job hunting.... UNLESS, they make it compulsory that you pass the exam, apply for residency, get the residency and then apply for immigration...........

Hmmmm ::) Probably Canada is going towards locking its immigration as well.
 

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hi all seniors

well i am going to apply as pharmacist this year so what about my credentials can they be asessed by the authorities that i am eligible to get licence or just i need to get registered with PEBC before applying as skilled immigrant .

just confused and worried about this
need opinion andhelp

thanks

sahar