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no min points, it depends on the time. if you apply say in Jan and there are 2000 people who have at least 400 points and you only have 399 , you will not be invited in that draw. However, in Feb and there are only 1000 people who have 400 points and they need more to reach the cap to make it 2000, then chances are you will get invited
 

praneet87

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tiffany123 said:
no min points, it depends on the time. if you apply say in Jan and there are 2000 people who have at least 400 points and you only have 399 , you will not be invited in that draw. However, in Feb and there are only 1000 people who have 400 points and they need more to reach the cap, then chances are you will get invited
Someone else who gets how it works :)
 

AtulSweta

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Hi,

How do we calculate points. The total Points are 100 and minimum required is 67.


Selection Factor Maximum points
English and/or French skills 28
Education 25
Experience 15
Age 12
Arranged employment in Canada 10
Adaptability 10
Total 100
Pass mark: 67 out of 100 points
 

girish3640

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Express Entry – Comprehensive Ranking System (CRS) criteria
A) Summary of points per factor for Express Entry candidates
A. Core / human capital factors Points per factor - With a spouse or common-law partner Points per factor - Without a spouse or common-law partner
Age 100 110
Level of education 140 150
Official languages proficiency 150 160
Canadian work experience 70 80
B) Summary of points per factor for Express Entry candidates
B. Spouse or common-law partner factors Maximum 40 points
Level of education 10
Official language proficiency 20
Canadian Work Experience 10
A. Core/human capital + B. Spouse or common-law partner factors Maximum 500 points (with a spouse or common-law partner) Maximum 500 points (without a spouse or common-law partner)
C) Summary of points per factor for Express Entry candidates
C. Skill Transferability factors Maximum 100 points
Education Maximum 50 points
With good/strong official languages proficiency and a post-secondary degree 50
With Canadian work experience and a post-secondary degree 50
Foreign work experience Maximum 50 points
With good/strong official languages proficiency and foreign work experience 50
With Canadian work experience and foreign work experience 50
Certificate of qualification (for people in trade occupations) Maximum 50 points
With good/strong official languages proficiency and a certificate of qualification 50
A. Core/human capital + B. Spouse or common-law partner + C. Transferability factors Maximum 600 points
D) Summary of points per factor for Express Entry candidates
D. Additional points (maximum 600)
Arranged employment 600
PN nomination 600
A. Core/human capital + B. Spouse or common-law partner factors + C. Transferability factors + D. = Grand total - 1,200
CRS – Core factors
Core / human capital factors With a spouse or common-law partner (Maximum 460 points) Without a spouse or common-law partner (Maximum 500 points)
Age Number of points (100 maximum) Number of points (110 maximum)
17 years of age or less 0 0
18 years of age 90 99
19 years of age 95 105
20 to 29 years of age 100 110
30 years of age 95 105
31 years of age 90 99
32 years of age 85 94
33 years of age 80 88
34 years of age 75 83
35 years of age 70 77
36 years of age 65 72
37 years of age 60 66
38 years of age 55 61
39 years of age 50 55
40 years of age 45 50
41 years of age 35 39
42 years of age 25 28
43 years of age 15 17
44 years of age 5 6
45 years of age or more 0 0
Level of Education With a spouse or common-law partner - Number of points (140 maximum) Without a spouse or common-law partner - Number of points (150 maximum)
Less than Secondary school (high school) credential 0 0
Secondary school (high school) credential 28 30
One-year post-secondary program credential 84 90
Two-year post-secondary program credential 91 98
Post-secondary program credential of three years or longer 112 120
Two or more post-secondary program credentials AND at least one of these credentials was issued on completion of a post-secondary program of three years or longer 119 128
University-level credential at the Master’s level OR an entry-to-practice professional degree. CIC only accepts as an entry-to-practice professional degree, those degrees issued in relation to an occupation listed at NOC Skill level A and for which licensing by a provincial regulatory body is required. 126 135
University-level credential at the Doctoral level 140 150
Official languages proficiency - first official language
Maximum points for each ability (reading, writing, speaking and listening):
32 with a spouse or common-law partner
34 without a spouse or common-law partner
With a spouse or common-law partner Maximum 128 points Without a spouse or common-law partner Maximum 136 points
Less than CLB 4 0 0
CLB 4 or 5 6 6
CLB 6 8 9
CLB 7 16 17
CLB 8 22 23
CLB 9 29 31
CLB 10 or more 32 34
Official languages proficiency - second official language
Maximum points for each ability (reading, writing, speaking and listening):

6 with a spouse or common-law partner (up to a combined maximum of 22 points)
6 without a spouse or common-law partner
With a spouse or common-law partner Maximum 22 points Without a spouse or common-law partner Maximum 24 points
CLB 4 or less 0 0
CLB 5 or 6 1 1
CLB 7 or 8 3 3
CLB 9 or more 6 6
Canadian work experience With a spouse or common-law partner Maximum 70 points Without a spouse or common-law partner Maximum 80 points
None or less than a year 0 0
1 year 35 40
2 years 46 53
3 years 56 64
4 years 63 72
5 years or more 70 80
Subtotal - Core / human capital factors Out of 460 points Out of 500 points
CRS – Spouse or common-law partner factors (if applicable)
Spouse or common-law partner factors With spouse or common-law partner - number of points per factor Without spouse or common-law partner (0 points – does not apply)
Spouse’s or common-law partner’s level of education 10 0
Less than secondary school (high school) credential 0
Secondary school (high school) credential 2
One-year post-secondary program credential 6
Two-year post-secondary program credential 7
Post-secondary program credential of three years or longer 8
Two or more post-secondary program credentials AND at least one of these credentials was issued on completion of a post-secondary program of three years or longer 9
University-level credential at the Master’s level OR an entry-to-practice professional degree. CIC only accepts as an entry-to-practice professional degree, those degrees issued in relation to an occupation listed at NOC Skill level A and for which licensing by a provincial regulatory body is required. 10
University-level credential at the Doctoral level 10
Spouse’s or common-law partner’s official languages proficiency - first official language

Reading, writing, speaking and listening– total points for each ability
Maximum 20 points 0 (does not apply)
For each ability 5
CLB 4 or less 0
CLB 5 or 6 1
CLB 7 or 8 3
CLB 9 or more 5
Canadian work experience Maximum 10 points 0 (does not apply)
None or less than a year 0
1 year 5
2 years 7
3 years 8
4 years 9
5 years or more 10
Subtotal - Core / human capital + Spouse or common-law partner factors 500 500
CRS – Skill transferability factors
Skill Transferability factors Maximum 100 points for this section
Education Maximum 50 points for Education
With good official language proficiency and a post-secondary degree Maximum 50 points
Points for CLB 7 or more on all first official language abilities, one or more under 9 Points for CLB 9 or more on all four first official language abilities
Secondary school (high school) credential or less (levels 1 & 2) 0 0
Post-secondary program credential of one year or longer (levels 3,4 & 5) 13 25
Two or more post-secondary program credentials AND at least one of these credentials was issued on completion of a post-secondary program of three years or longer (levels 6,7 & 8) 25 50
With Canadian work experience and a post-secondary degree Maximum 50 points
Points for education + 1 year of Canadian work experience Points for education + 2 years or more of Canadian work experience
Secondary school (high school) credential or less (levels 1 & 2) 0 0
Post-secondary program credential of one year or longer (levels 3,4 & 5) 13 25
Two or more post-secondary program credentials AND at least one of these credentials was issued on completion of a post-secondary program of three years or longer (levels 6,7 & 8) 25 50
Foreign work experience Maximum 50 points for Foreign work experience
With good official language proficiency and foreign work experience 50 points
Points for foreign work experience + CLB 7 or more on all first OL abilities, one or more under 9 Points for foreign work experience + CLB 9 or more on all four first OL abilities
No foreign work experience 0 0
1 or 2 years of foreign work experience 13 25
3 years or more of foreign work experience 25 50
With Canadian work experience and foreign work experience Maximum 50 points
Points for foreign work experience + 1 year of Canadian work experience Points for foreign work experience + 2 years or more of Canadian work experience
No foreign work experience 0 0
1 or 2 years of foreign work experience 13 25
3 years or more of foreign work experience 25 50
Certificate of qualification (trade occupations) Maximum 50 points for this section
With good official language proficiency and a certificate of qualification Maximum 50 points
Points for certificate of qualification + CLB 5 or more on all first OL abilities, one or more under 7 Points for certificate of qualification + CLB 7 or more on all four first OL abilities
With a certificate of qualification 25 50
Subtotal:
A. Core + B. Spouse or common-law partner + C. Skill transferability factors 600
Additional points Maximum 600 points
1) Arranged employment OR 600
2) Provincial or territorial nomination 600
Grand total Maximum 1,200 points
 

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tiffany123 said:
no min points, it depends on the time. if you apply say in Jan and there are 2000 people who have at least 400 points and you only have 399 , you will not be invited in that draw. However, in Feb and there are only 1000 people who have 400 points and they need more to reach the cap to make it 2000, then chances are you will get invited
I disagree. Points aren't everything. And you will only see your score when you apply in EE. You will not see your RANK. It's your RANK that will matter. Part of your ranking will also be based on your occupation if you don't have an LMIA approved permanent job offer or a PNP certificate. This program is about "addressing Canada's economic demands for skilled workers to fill occupations in demand by providing just-in-time immigration." That's a quote from Jason Kenney, the former Minister of Citizenship & Immigration and the "creator" of the EE program. So while you are not "scored" on your occupation, you can bet your last dollar that you WILL be ranked on it. Otherwise, the program fails to live up to it's promise.

Think about it. You could have a person with a PhD in butterfly studies with a score of 550 or a person who is a crane operator with 5 years of experience and only scores 400. There isn't a big demand for butterfly scientists in Canada but there certainly is for crane operators. So who do you think they are going to choose? What would make the most economic sense to Canada? The butterfly PhD who might not be able to get a job? Or the crane operator who could get 10 job offers in his first week in Canada?
 

poorivas

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What i understood from the Express Entry was " This program is largely based on the points system and ranking based on the overall pointing system. There maybe more NOC codes opening up later to apply.

So if there are say 100 applications in one NOC, then based on the ranking the applicants are picked up. Say someone with 90 points surely going to make the cut than an applicant with just 67 points.

^^^ For the above post, Its immaterial whether he is done with a Butterfly research for a PhD (btw on a lighter note, Butterflies do play a major role in environmental up keeping). As long as there are two PhD's in same area and one taking a lead than the other.

Literally in FSWP program, you can control your PR decision based on the min qualification points. However in Express Entry its the one with higher points for the designated NOC will take the cut. Still need to read on to update myself on this area.
 

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rjessome said:
I disagree. Points aren't everything. And you will only see your score when you apply in EE. You will not see your RANK. It's your RANK that will matter. Part of your ranking will also be based on your occupation if you don't have an LMIA approved permanent job offer or a PNP certificate. This program is about "addressing Canada's economic demands for skilled workers to fill occupations in demand by providing just-in-time immigration." That's a quote from Jason Kenney, the former Minister of Citizenship & Immigration and the "creator" of the EE program. So while you are not "scored" on your occupation, you can bet your last dollar that you WILL be ranked on it. Otherwise, the program fails to live up to it's promise.

Think about it. You could have a person with a PhD in butterfly studies with a score of 550 or a person who is a crane operator with 5 years of experience and only scores 400. There isn't a big demand for butterfly scientists in Canada but there certainly is for crane operators. So who do you think they are going to choose? What would make the most economic sense to Canada? The butterfly PhD who might not be able to get a job? Or the crane operator who could get 10 job offers in his first week in Canada?
that is what i said, the points will determine your rank. If you are a PhD without job experience, your points will be different from a person without a PhD without 5 years experience. They value both education and experience. That's why people have higher education and longer experience will have higher points than those who have less. For example, they need 2000 people for the draw in January and 2000 people gets at least 400 points, you have 399 so you will be "ranked" 2001. Also, if things are like you said, then all of the immigrants in Canada will mostly be workers and no people with high Education Masters and PhDs
 

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rjessome said:
I disagree. Points aren't everything. And you will only see your score when you apply in EE. You will not see your RANK. It's your RANK that will matter. Part of your ranking will also be based on your occupation if you don't have an LMIA approved permanent job offer or a PNP certificate. This program is about "addressing Canada's economic demands for skilled workers to fill occupations in demand by providing just-in-time immigration." That's a quote from Jason Kenney, the former Minister of Citizenship & Immigration and the "creator" of the EE program. So while you are not "scored" on your occupation, you can bet your last dollar that you WILL be ranked on it. Otherwise, the program fails to live up to it's promise.

Think about it. You could have a person with a PhD in butterfly studies with a score of 550 or a person who is a crane operator with 5 years of experience and only scores 400. There isn't a big demand for butterfly scientists in Canada but there certainly is for crane operators. So who do you think they are going to choose? What would make the most economic sense to Canada? The butterfly PhD who might not be able to get a job? Or the crane operator who could get 10 job offers in his first week in Canada?
I agree with this in principal, but someone with 400 points wouldn't be chosen over someone with 550.

You have it spot on though, this is all about Canada only bringing in people they need. So if crane operators are in demand, LMIA's will be issued and this particular person will be 600 points above the guy with a PhD in butterfly studies!

The system is less about filling quotas and processing never ending numbers of apps and all about Canada saying - here is who we actually want to come here.

It's all going to be about the LMIA IMO.
 

praneet87

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rjessome said:
I disagree. Points aren't everything. And you will only see your score when you apply in EE. You will not see your RANK. It's your RANK that will matter. Part of your ranking will also be based on your occupation if you don't have an LMIA approved permanent job offer or a PNP certificate. This program is about "addressing Canada's economic demands for skilled workers to fill occupations in demand by providing just-in-time immigration." That's a quote from Jason Kenney, the former Minister of Citizenship & Immigration and the "creator" of the EE program. So while you are not "scored" on your occupation, you can bet your last dollar that you WILL be ranked on it. Otherwise, the program fails to live up to it's promise.

Think about it. You could have a person with a PhD in butterfly studies with a score of 550 or a person who is a crane operator with 5 years of experience and only scores 400. There isn't a big demand for butterfly scientists in Canada but there certainly is for crane operators. So who do you think they are going to choose? What would make the most economic sense to Canada? The butterfly PhD who might not be able to get a job? Or the crane operator who could get 10 job offers in his first week in Canada?
That's wishful thinking but no, thats not how it works. It's solely ranked on points.
 

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I think the point he was trying to make was that with the new system Canada determines who they want.

A better example would be a GP and a fruit picker.

If the market for GPs is saturated in a years time LMIA's will not be issued for this position. However if fruit pickers are in demand LMIA's will be issues.

So, you could see someone who is poorly skilled being picked over a highly educated doctor, simply because that's what Canada needs. That's vastly different to how the system is currently setup.
 

praneet87

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jsm0085 said:
I think the point he was trying to make was that with the new system Canada determines who they want.

A better example would be a GP and a fruit picker.

If the market for GPs is saturated in a years time LMIA's will not be issued for this position. However if fruit pickers are in demand LMIA's will be issues.

So, you could see someone who is poorly skilled being picked over a highly educated doctor, simply because that's what Canada needs. That's vastly different to how the system is currently setup.
Either way, thats not how it works. How will they pick? Look at someone's resume? It has to be a systematic approach. Yes, they are going to fill in jobs that can't be filled by canadians and thats via LMIA.

Or else a clerk with 3 years of work experience will have more points than an engineer with 1 year of work experience.
 

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Or else a clerk with 3 years of work experience will have more points than an engineer with 1 year of work experience
If they both do not have LMIA,and the clerk has MORE points (for any reason: language, age, experience etc.) - the clerk will get ITA.

CIC will not avaluate anybody "personally". Applicants will be chosen BY THE SYSTEM itself from the pool according to their points. When all applicants with the highest points in the pool will be chosen,and IF there is still need in more ITA to be issued then the system wiil pick from the lower ranked applicants, and then (it is an interesting moment!) if there are two applicants with equal points- the system will pick the one with the earlier date of application. (At least that is how Australian system works).
 

praneet87

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Regina said:
If they both do not have LMIA,and the clerk has MORE points (for any reason: language, age, experience etc.) - the clerk will get ITA.

CIC will not avaluate anybody "personally". Applicants will be chosen BY THE SYSTEM itself from the pool according to their points. When all applicants with the highest points in the pool will be chosen,and IF there is still need in more ITA to be issued then the system wiil pick from the lower ranked applicants, and then (it is an interesting moment!) if there are two applicants with equal points- the system will pick the one with the earlier date of application. (At least that is how Australian system works).
That is what I meant.