Migrating to Canada with Parents

[digitaldesi]

Hello All,

Seeking advice from those already resident in Canada...

We are a family of 5 members (myself, wife, 7 year old son, 70+ year old parents) living in UAE for past 40 years and looking to migrate to Canada primarily for the benefits of Canadian Citizenship i.e., long term stability in jobs, economy, medical care, education, etc. compared to the UAE.

We do currently have quite a good life in Dubai with a good ICT job but looking for better future.
My current EE CRS score is 358, which may at best increase to 418 with improved IELTS score.
Hoping for a PNP nomination to give us any chance with EE.

If we are to be successful in getting PR, our intention is to move all together with my Parents.

Appreciate advice based on your experience:

1. What are our options to be successful in PR and eventually Citizenship?
2. Practicality of moving and living with Parents. If anyone has had any success with this and how?

Thanks in advance!

 

[scylla]

Hello All,

Seeking advice from those already resident in Canada...

We are a family of 5 members (myself, wife, 7 year old son, 70+ year old parents) living in UAE for past 40 years and looking to migrate to Canada primarily for the benefits of Canadian Citizenship i.e., long term stability in jobs, economy, medical care, education, etc. compared to the UAE.

We do currently have quite a good life in Dubai with a good ICT job but looking for better future.
My current EE CRS score is 358, which may at best increase to 418 with improved IELTS score.
Hoping for a PNP nomination to give us any chance with EE.

If we are to be successful in getting PR, our intention is to move all together with my Parents.

Appreciate advice based on your experience:

1. What are our options to be successful in PR and eventually Citizenship?
2. Practicality of moving and living with Parents. If anyone has had any success with this and how?

Thanks in advance!

1. PNP is really your only option since your score is too low for EE.
2. Your parents cannot move with you. You will only qualify to sponsor your parents for PR once you have lived in Canada for at least three years and are making enough income in those three years to meet the low income cut off for the number of people you are supporting. Your parents can apply for a visitor visa to visit you while you wait to qualify to sponsor them but there is no guarantee the visitor visa will be approved. If it is approved, they will be able to visit Canada temporarily only - not move here permanently. To have the highest chances of the visitor visa application being successful, you will want to wait 6-8 months after you have moved to Canada before your parents apply to visit you. They will need to demonstrate ties to their home country / country of residence to show they have no plans on remaining in Canada long term.

 

[navdeepchopra]

Me too sailing on same boat..i have few queries
We are trying for ICT but even post ICT as the organisation will not issue letter to support PR (1 yr job assurance post PR), we will not get the additional 50 points and as the cut-off is raising, by the time we will benefit points from experience n loss few due to age factor (currently 35) what are our chances and suggestions
How risky is our plan? We are looking this option to overcome stability risk here and don't want to land up in it again. Appreciate some analysis of the situation

 

[steaky]

Hello All,

Seeking advice from those already resident in Canada...

We are a family of 5 members (myself, wife, 7 year old son, 70+ year old parents) living in UAE for past 40 years and looking to migrate to Canada primarily for the benefits of Canadian Citizenship i.e., long term stability in jobs, economy, medical care, education, etc. compared to the UAE.

We do currently have quite a good life in Dubai with a good ICT job but looking for better future.
My current EE CRS score is 358, which may at best increase to 418 with improved IELTS score.
Hoping for a PNP nomination to give us any chance with EE.

If we are to be successful in getting PR, our intention is to move all together with my Parents.

Appreciate advice based on your experience:

1. What are our options to be successful in PR and eventually Citizenship?
2. Practicality of moving and living with Parents. If anyone has had any success with this and how?

Thanks in advance!

Unfortunately, you don't have to be a Canadian citizen in order to enjoy medical care and education. To enjoy the benefits, you can be a foreign worker or PR. Long term job stability and economy has nothing to do with Canadian citizenship.

 

[scylla]

Me too sailing on same boat..i have few queries
We are trying for ICT but even post ICT as the organisation will not issue letter to support PR (1 yr job assurance post PR), we will not get the additional 50 points and as the cut-off is raising, by the time we will benefit points from experience n loss few due to age factor (currently 35) what are our chances and suggestions
How risky is our plan? We are looking this option to overcome stability risk here and don't want to land up in it again. Appreciate some analysis of the situation

It's certainly risky given your age. If you can't claim the 50 points and your employer won't support you with the required letter after you've worked for a year in Canada, then you may really struggle to get enough points to be selected for PR. PR certainly isn't guaranteed.

 

[bellaluna]

Hello All,

Seeking advice from those already resident in Canada...

We are a family of 5 members (myself, wife, 7 year old son, 70+ year old parents) living in UAE for past 40 years and looking to migrate to Canada primarily for the benefits of Canadian Citizenship i.e., long term stability in jobs, economy, medical care, education, etc. compared to the UAE.

We do currently have quite a good life in Dubai with a good ICT job but looking for better future.
My current EE CRS score is 358, which may at best increase to 418 with improved IELTS score.
Hoping for a PNP nomination to give us any chance with EE.

If we are to be successful in getting PR, our intention is to move all together with my Parents.

Appreciate advice based on your experience:

1. What are our options to be successful in PR and eventually Citizenship?
2. Practicality of moving and living with Parents. If anyone has had any success with this and how?

Thanks in advance!

How old is your wife, and does she have skilled work experience?
Unfortunately, Express Entry favors applicants in their 20s, so if you're not in this age range, you'll have to rely on another immigration program like a PNP or pilot programs.

 

[digitaldesi]

1. PNP is really your only option since your score is too low for EE.
2. Your parents cannot move with you. You will only qualify to sponsor your parents for PR once you have lived in Canada for at least three years and are making enough income in those three years to meet the low income cut off for the number of people you are supporting. Your parents can apply for a visitor visa to visit you while you wait to qualify to sponsor them but there is no guarantee the visitor visa will be approved. If it is approved, they will be able to visit Canada temporarily only - not move here permanently. To have the highest chances of the visitor visa application being successful, you will want to wait 6-8 months after you have moved to Canada before your parents apply to visit you. They will need to demonstrate ties to their home country / country of residence to show they have no plans on remaining in Canada long term.

Many Thanks scylla,

1. Would you be able to suggest PNPs to pursue? In my EE submission, I selected all Provinces and separately applied for SINP with 68 score. My Primary NOC is 0213 with career experience in 2282, 0131 and 2171 as well.
2. The approach you've described for Parents seems fair. While the 6-8 months initial wait seems long, I'd also be keen to hear if there were any similar cases as mine before and how they coped practically with life in Canada for Parents of immigrants.

 

[digitaldesi]

Unfortunately, you don't have to be a Canadian citizen in order to enjoy medical care and education. To enjoy the benefits, you can be a foreign worker or PR. Long term job stability and economy has nothing to do with Canadian citizenship.

Thanks steaky, That's interesting to note. Will research further on this.

 

[scylla]

Many Thanks scylla,

1. Would you be able to suggest PNPs to pursue? In my EE submission, I selected all Provinces and separately applied for SINP with 68 score. My Primary NOC is 0213 with career experience in 2282, 0131 and 2171 as well.
2. The approach you've described for Parents seems fair. While the 6-8 months initial wait seems long, I'd also be keen to hear if there were any similar cases as mine before and how they coped practically with life in Canada for Parents of immigrants.

1. You'll need to dedicate time to researching the PNP programs. There's really no short cut to that apart from hiring an immigration lawyer to assist you.
2. Understand that there is no guarantee your parents will be able to visit at all. If IRCC feels their home ties are weak and they may have intentions to live in Canada or remain in Canada long term, they may really struggle to get approved. Unfortunately there is really no way to know in advance what will happen so if you go the route of PR, you have to be willing to take the gamble that a visitor visa won't be approved for your parents. There's a possibility they won't be able to come to Canada until they have PR which best case scenario would be four years after you move to Canada.

 

[Impatient Dankaroo]

Forget about your parents, first you will need to qualify yourself and given your points it seems seriously unlikely. Would advise you try and increase your points first. Even PNPs despite taking lower points than EE usually only consider 10-20 points below EE intakes

 

[digitaldesi]

How old is your wife, and does she have skilled work experience?
Unfortunately, Express Entry favors applicants in their 20s, so if you're not in this age range, you'll have to rely on another immigration program like a PNP or pilot programs.

My wife's in late 30s currently. Her skilled work experience was in 4011 about 11 years ago so not sure if that would help?
Would you be able to suggest PNPs or Pilots to pursue? In my EE submission, I selected all Provinces and separately applied for SINP with 68 score. My Primary NOC is 0213 with career experience in 2282, 0131 and 2171 as well.

 

[bellaluna]

My wife's in late 30s currently. Her skilled work experience was in 4011 about 11 years ago so not sure if that would help?
Would you be able to suggest PNPs or Pilots to pursue? In my EE submission, I selected all Provinces and separately applied for SINP with 68 score. My Primary NOC is 0213 with career experience in 2282, 0131 and 2171 as well.

That won't help unfortunately. The work experience needs to have been in the last 10 years.

As scylla advised, there's no shortcut apart from doing your own research or hiring an immigration lawyer or consultant. But also be careful with the latter...some of them will promise you they will definitely get you into Canada because they want your money. That's why it's best to be informed yourself of the rules.

PNPs and pilot programs come and go...I am not up to date anymore, but being in the ICT field is promising, at least. A good place to start are the other sections of this forum.

 

[navdeepchopra]

It's certainly risky given your age. If you can't claim the 50 points and your employer won't support you with the required letter after you've worked for a year in Canada, then you may really struggle to get enough points to be selected for PR. PR certainly isn't guaranteed.

Thanks Scylla.

1. If ICT employer doesn't issue letter to support PR, do we eligible to claim Canadian experience atleast as it will be full time job. (Noc 2174)
2. On OWP, if spouse (noc 0213) get full time job and the employer agree to give letter to supportPR or apply LMIA, in that case we can claim 50 extra points apart from experience
3. Any chance of OINP as with one year experience, we are expecting our points will be around 438 and after another one year with 2 yrs experience pts will be 461
4. In meantime, what are the chances for CEC, PNP during waiting for EE

What is your expert advise, is it worth taking risk or not. Sorry I am very confused

 

[scylla]

Thanks Scylla.

1. If ICT employer doesn't issue letter to support PR, do we eligible to claim Canadian experience atleast as it will be full time job. (Noc 2174)
2. On OWP, if spouse (noc 0213) get full time job and the employer agree to give letter to supportPR or apply LMIA, in that case we can claim 50 extra points apart from experience
3. Any chance of OINP as with one year experience, we are expecting our points will be around 438 and after another one year with 2 yrs experience pts will be 461
4. In meantime, what are the chances for CEC, PNP during waiting for EE

What is your expert advise, is it worth taking risk or not. Sorry I am very confused

1. Yes - this counts as Canadian work experience.
2. Yes - the employer would need to obtain an approved LMIA. A letter won't be sufficient.
3. Very hard to say. Recent cut offs indicate you would need to have two years of work experience.
4. Again, very hard to say. With a score of 438, CEC is unlikely. Too many factors to comment on the chances for PNP, Keep in mind that if you are working in one province in Canada, you can really only apply for PNP through that province (other provinces won't be an option).

 

[navdeepchopra]

Thanks Scylla.

1. If ICT employer doesn't issue letter to support PR, do we eligible to claim Canadian experience atleast as it will be full time job. (Noc 2174)
2. On OWP, if spouse (noc 0213) get full time job and the employer agree to give letter to supportPR or apply LMIA, in that case we can claim 50 extra points apart from experience
3. Any chance of OINP as with one year experience, we are expecting our points will be around 438 and after another one year with 2 yrs experience pts will be 461
4. In meantime, what are the chances for CEC, PNP during waiting for EE

What is your expert advise, is it worth taking risk or not. Sorry I am very confused

Just to add current score is 397 only