Member of Parliament communique in writing

[parker24]

Not that I am in any form supporting tuyen (if you have read any of our posts you know we have a love hate relationship lol) but I have said this in many other posts about contacting CIC and MP's... seriously, how would you know that that is what they have done? they can come up with a million reasons to say your case has been delayed, it is not by any means ethical but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen they are human just like all of us and I tell you if I worked for CIC and had 500 applications sitting on my desk and someone calling or the MP complaining I wasn't doing my job even tho the case is within processing time, your dang right it would go to the bottom and wait till the end of the processing time was about to expire.... good thing I don't work for CIC....

ThunderSoul is (I believe) outside the processing times. So she actually has a reason to. I personally agree that going to an MP before the processing time is over the limit is a little obsessive, but after that, have at'er

 

[SenoritaBella]

Sure... however, I would be careful about excessive inquiries because one's attitude can make the difference whether someone goes the extra mile or not. I can tell you from experience that being polite or calm during a 'storm' works wonders.

ThunderSoul is (I believe) outside the processing times. So she actually has a reason to. I personally agree that going to an MP before the processing time is over the limit is a little obsessive, but after that, have at'er

 

[tuyen]

Not that I am in any form supporting tuyen (if you have read any of our posts you know we have a love hate relationship lol)

Oh whatever. You know you love me. Just admit it.

but I have said this in many other posts about contacting CIC and MP's... seriously, how would you know that that is what they have done? they can come up with a million reasons to say your case has been delayed, it is not by any means ethical but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen they are human just like all of us and I tell you if I worked for CIC and had 500 applications sitting on my desk and someone calling or the MP complaining I wasn't doing my job even tho the case is within processing time, your dang right it would go to the bottom and wait till the end of the processing time was about to expire....

Exactly.
Thank you for demonstrating logic and common sense.

 

[tuyen]

You need a chill pill. I think they know better than to shove it to the bottom and probably want to just get it done with.

You're absolutely right - they DO want to get it over and done with. But that could all change very quickly when they start getting hounded by politicians wondering why Mr. Jones' application still isn't done.

Never have I heard of someone who asked their MP to find out what's up, waiting a crapload longer.

Well...if YOU have never heard of it happening, then obviously it means that it never happens...right? :

Seriously, you need to somehow DE-STRESS

And seriously, YOU need to get out of the world of rainbows and unicorns, and come join us here in reality land where real people live.

We're talking about people working for barely-above minimum wage who are probably under enough stress already, and then you want to try and say that their ethics will override their human emotions? Riiiight.

History is filled with people who were in much higher positions of authority, whose ethics should've guided their every move, and yet they too succumbed to typical human weaknesses. So please don't be totally naive in thinking that people working at CIC are somehow immune to getting pissed off when a politician starts nagging them about a specific case, just as a parent gets pissed off when a nagging child repeatedly asks, "are we there yet??"

because you are taking it out on someone ONLINE. Lovely.

I'm not taking anything out on anyone. I'm simply trying to inject a little bit of common sense into a discussion which desperately needs it. It would appear (from your stated views and the general naivety of some others) that people seem to think it's somehow perfectly okay and completely harmless to call up your local MP and ask him/her to get involved in your case and then expect there to be zero negative consequences. And if you really believe that, then yes, by all means, go nuts and get your MP involved. Hell, while you're at it, why not write to the leaders of every political party in your province and see which one of them wants to "stand up for the little guy" by making the most amount of noise? And why stop there? Let's write a letter to the Prime Minister while we're at it, and if HE doesn't get the ball rolling, we'll go straight to the Queen. That'll REALLY show those people at CIC that they better not twiddle their thumbs with those applications!

 

[Creampop]

Not that I am in any form supporting tuyen (if you have read any of our posts you know we have a love hate relationship lol)

Oh whatever. You know you love me. Just admit it.

I'll admit it.... I love to disagree with you

ThunderSoul is (I believe) outside the processing times. So she actually has a reason to. I personally agree that going to an MP before the processing time is over the limit is a little obsessive, but after that, have at'er

Well ThunderSoul didn't have anything listed so I looked it up they applied thru Manila (in Feb 2012) which is showing 9 months and in Feb the sponsorship approval was bout 3 months so that equals close to 12 months it isn't Feb. 2013 yet... so no s/he is not outside the processing time... after reading some of TS's other post it just seems s/he is upset others are getting their visa's and they havn't got theirs yet... I understand what it is to be frustrated, I watched all the may applicants get sponsorship approval before me and no I can't complain because our case has moved along fast but even so I would not start making calls or ruffling anyones feathers until the 15 months that was posted when I applied was past... and honestly he was asking if he should trust the MP... how many government officails can you really trust?

 

[BCgirl2012]

I'll admit it.... I love to disagree with you

Well ThunderSoul didn't have anything listed so I looked it up they applied thru Manila (in Feb 2012) which is showing 9 months and in Feb the sponsorship approval was bout 3 months so that equals close to 12 months it isn't Feb. 2013 yet... so no s/he is not outside the processing time... after reading some of TS's other post it just seems s/he is upset others are getting their visa's and they havn't got theirs yet... I understand what it is to be frustrated, I watched all the may applicants get sponsorship approval before me and no I can't complain because our case has moved along fast but even so I would not start making calls or ruffling anyones feathers until the 15 months that was posted when I applied was past... and honestly he was asking if he should trust the MP... how many government officails can you really trust?

Oh, I think he actually has had a rough ride so far:

- His sponsorship approval came really late. I think it took more than 140 days for them.
- His file went to the wrong office, and it was really stressful to get it to Manila from New Delhi.
- The passport request was issued in August but it never reached them, and there is a worry of VO actually closing the file since TS and his spouse never sent the passport to Manilla, since they never knew they should send it to begin with.

So it's not really about timeline only.

As for the rest of the discussions, I don't know- I'm not here to judge anybody or teach anybody anything. Just happy be happy to help if I can

 

[kitchener_inland]

I'll admit it.... I love to disagree with you

Well ThunderSoul didn't have anything listed so I looked it up they applied thru Manila (in Feb 2012) which is showing 9 months and in Feb the sponsorship approval was bout 3 months so that equals close to 12 months it isn't Feb. 2013 yet... so no s/he is not outside the processing time... after reading some of TS's other post it just seems s/he is upset others are getting their visa's and they havn't got theirs yet... I understand what it is to be frustrated, I watched all the may applicants get sponsorship approval before me and no I can't complain because our case has moved along fast but even so I would not start making calls or ruffling anyones feathers until the 15 months that was posted when I applied was past... and honestly he was asking if he should trust the MP... how many government officails can you really trust?

some people don't have much patience, I remember reading somewhere someone was very upset and angry at the government because he was waiting for 6-7 months which is laughable compare to many cases who waited years to get through the process,
she/he asks the MP to look in to it for him/her and I think its disrespectful that in same time he assumes the MP might be lying?? there is no gain for the MP to lie in fact the MP is doing them a favour lol

 

[parker24]

You're absolutely right - they DO want to get it over and done with. But that could all change very quickly when they start getting hounded by politicians wondering why Mr. Jones' application still isn't done.

Well...if YOU have never heard of it happening, then obviously it means that it never happens...right? :

And seriously, YOU need to get out of the world of rainbows and unicorns, and come join us here in reality land where real people live.

We're talking about people working for barely-above minimum wage who are probably under enough stress already, and then you want to try and say that their ethics will override their human emotions? Riiiight.

History is filled with people who were in much higher positions of authority, whose ethics should've guided their every move, and yet they too succumbed to typical human weaknesses. So please don't be totally naive in thinking that people working at CIC are somehow immune to getting pissed off when a politician starts nagging them about a specific case, just as a parent gets pissed off when a nagging child repeatedly asks, "are we there yet??"

I'm not taking anything out on anyone. I'm simply trying to inject a little bit of common sense into a discussion which desperately needs it. It would appear (from your stated views and the general naivety of some others) that people seem to think it's somehow perfectly okay and completely harmless to call up your local MP and ask him/her to get involved in your case and then expect there to be zero negative consequences. And if you really believe that, then yes, by all means, go nuts and get your MP involved. Hell, while you're at it, why not write to the leaders of every political party in your province and see which one of them wants to "stand up for the little guy" by making the most amount of noise? And why stop there? Let's write a letter to the Prime Minister while we're at it, and if HE doesn't get the ball rolling, we'll go straight to the Queen. That'll REALLY show those people at CIC that they better not twiddle their thumbs with those applications!

Obviously nothing I say will get through someone's thick skull so forget it.

 

[Creampop]

- His sponsorship approval came really late. I think it took more than 140 days for them.
- His file went to the wrong office, and it was really stressful to get it to Manila from New Delhi.
- The passport request was issued in August but it never reached them, and there is a worry of VO actually closing the file since TS and his spouse never sent the passport to Manilla, since they never knew they should send it to begin with.

I can completely understand why he is upset... I would be too but, still even with the mix ups he's within the processing time and if you call CIC what are they going to tell you? please wait until your application has gotten outside the processing time blah blah blah all I was saying is when you file do you except it to happen overnight or do you look at the processing times and say ok this is going to take a year atleast... you mentioned he was upset because he missed the passport request from ND even tho it was supposed to go to Manila, I dunno about Manila but we all know ND requests passports and holds them for months so just because he got PPR from ND doesn't mean they had actually done any work to his case. this post wasn't about why he called the MP it was about if the MP should share their response with them (the actual e-mail from CIC to MP) and then if he should believe what the MP said.... if I had known in more detail his complications I would have understood more... but as bad as it sounds within the processing time is in fact just that, within the processing time no matter how many wrong turns the application takes... Sorry hate to sound so rude :'(

some people don't have much patience

I agree with this... you definitely need patience to get thru this process... keeping the end goal in focus is what is important...

 

[CanadianJeepGuy]

....you definitely need patience to get thru this process... keeping the end goal in focus is what is important...

Patience is key to maintaining your sanity. It would also be easier to draw upon if there was more access to information.
There a more than a few milestones set up to be able to see where you are within the process but CIC does not update them. In most cases I have seen here the updates come well after they have been notified by mail. Rather defeats the purpose of ECAS I believe.