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I have got PPR recently. I would like to inform you in order to encourage you that nothing is impossible and everything is in GOD's hand
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SriTLIN

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Hi Everyone,

i would like to disclose that, I have shared the below information earlier in a different thread, but considering this thread relevancy, i am sharing the same info here again, to provide a consolidated overview of all my details.

In Aug 2015, i have applied for a Canada Work Permit (thru my employer). During preliminary IME (immigration medical exam), I was diagnosed with abnormal heart beat/ sound and a suspected Mitral Valve Prolapse (MVP). After initial report submission to CIC/ IRCC, the CIC Medical visa officer suggested an additional review. As per IMO (Immigration Medical officer) direction and CIC suggested specialist doctor, I went through additional review and the specialist doctor confirmed mild mild Mitral valve Prolapse (MVP), and mild/ fair left systolic ventricle dysfunction (which did not require immediate attention). The specialist put me on beta blocker medication (metaprolol 25 mg) and gave me a clearance, and subsequently IMO has cleared my IME results. Later my Canada Work Permit was approved.

After arriving in Canada, I was following up with a Cardiac specialist doctor. My recently results were more alarming - I was diagnosed with Marfan Syndrome and a gene abnormality (the main cause of Marfan syndrome in first place) and was put on a different/ more medications - Losartin 25 MG and Bisoprolol 5 MG. My doctor told me, that i might require a surgery in future, but was not conclusive about the period when i would require the surgery intervention. I did not have any results/ report information in hand about it, since everything was covered by Provincial Insurance.

Recently in May 2018- when i went through the IME for EE PR processing, the IME Panel Physician (PP) doctor found that - my heart MVP has increased a bit more in comparison to previous 2015 Aug observations. I have disclosed my current daily medicines intake information in the IME application (at IME center) and submitted previous available specialist doctor reports (from 2015 Aug, since i did not have any current reports) to PP. The IME PP doctor has included the reports (i provided) to CIC on 14-May-2018.
I am happy to share with you all that- Today, i received an update in my EE application mentioning - "My IME results were cleared". There was no additional review required in my case. So i would encourage everyone to share relevant information available from previous examinations, so that it would help in faster processing of your applications.
I wish all the best to everyone, during their Canada Immigration (especially with the medical exam). .:)
 
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Outworld

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Hi Everyone,

i would like to disclose that, I have shared the below information earlier in a different thread, but considering this thread relevancy, i am sharing the same info here again, to provide a consolidated overview of all my details.

In Aug 2015, i have applied for a Canada Work Permit (thru my employer). During preliminary IME (immigration medical exam), I was diagnosed with abnormal heart beat/ sound and a suspected Mitral Valve Prolapse (MVP). After initial report submission to CIC/ IRCC, the CIC Medical visa officer suggested an additional review. As per IMO (Immigration Medical officer) direction and CIC suggested specialist doctor, I went through additional review and the specialist doctor confirmed mild mild Mitral valve Prolapse (MVP), and mild/ fair left systolic ventricle dysfunction (which did not require immediate attention). The specialist put me on beta blocker medication (metaprolol 25 mg) and gave me a clearance, and subsequently IMO has cleared my IME results. Later my Canada Work Permit was approved.

After arriving in Canada, I was following up with a Cardiac specialist doctor. My recently results were more alarming - I was diagnosed with Marfan Syndrome and a gene abnormality (the main cause of Marfan syndrome in first place) and was put on a different/ more medications - Losartin 25 MG and Bisoprolol 5 MG. My doctor told me, that i might require a surgery in future, but was not conclusive about the period when i would require the surgery intervention. I did not have any results/ report information in hand about it, since everything was covered by Provincial Insurance.

Recently in May 2018- when i went through the IME for EE PR processing, the IME Panel Physician (PP) doctor found that - my heart MVP has increased a bit more in comparison to previous 2015 Aug observations. I have disclosed my current daily medicines intake information in the IME application (at IME center) and submitted previous available specialist doctor reports (from 2015 Aug, since i did not have any current reports) to PP. The IME PP doctor has included the reports (i provided) to CIC on 14-May-2018.
I am happy to share with you all that- Today, i received an update in my EE application mentioning - "My IME results were cleared". There was no additional review required in my case. So i would encourage you guys to share relevant information available from previous examinations, so that it would help in faster processing of your applications.
I wish all the best to everyone, during their Canada Immigration (especially with the medical exam). .:)
I am so happy to hear that. Congrats and wish you the best with your application.
 
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sbdiuo

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Hi Everyone,

i would like to disclose that, I have shared the below information earlier in a different thread, but considering this thread relevancy, i am sharing the same info here again, to provide a consolidated overview of all my details.

In Aug 2015, i have applied for a Canada Work Permit (thru my employer). During preliminary IME (immigration medical exam), I was diagnosed with abnormal heart beat/ sound and a suspected Mitral Valve Prolapse (MVP). After initial report submission to CIC/ IRCC, the CIC Medical visa officer suggested an additional review. As per IMO (Immigration Medical officer) direction and CIC suggested specialist doctor, I went through additional review and the specialist doctor confirmed mild mild Mitral valve Prolapse (MVP), and mild/ fair left systolic ventricle dysfunction (which did not require immediate attention). The specialist put me on beta blocker medication (metaprolol 25 mg) and gave me a clearance, and subsequently IMO has cleared my IME results. Later my Canada Work Permit was approved.

After arriving in Canada, I was following up with a Cardiac specialist doctor. My recently results were more alarming - I was diagnosed with Marfan Syndrome and a gene abnormality (the main cause of Marfan syndrome in first place) and was put on a different/ more medications - Losartin 25 MG and Bisoprolol 5 MG. My doctor told me, that i might require a surgery in future, but was not conclusive about the period when i would require the surgery intervention. I did not have any results/ report information in hand about it, since everything was covered by Provincial Insurance.

Recently in May 2018- when i went through the IME for EE PR processing, the IME Panel Physician (PP) doctor found that - my heart MVP has increased a bit more in comparison to previous 2015 Aug observations. I have disclosed my current daily medicines intake information in the IME application (at IME center) and submitted previous available specialist doctor reports (from 2015 Aug, since i did not have any current reports) to PP. The IME PP doctor has included the reports (i provided) to CIC on 14-May-2018.
I am happy to share with you all that- Today, i received an update in my EE application mentioning - "My IME results were cleared". There was no additional review required in my case. So i would encourage everyone to share relevant information available from previous examinations, so that it would help in faster processing of your applications.
I wish all the best to everyone, during their Canada Immigration (especially with the medical exam). .:)
Hey @SriTLIN Congrats!! thanks for sharing in detail, i also have VSD (Ventricular Septal Defect) which was 'fixed' when i was a baby but with the remaining medical history of mine, medical officers (as well as panel physician) did not care at all :D

Anyways, so happy for you, hope to hear good news from @Outworld soon.

Stay healthy people :) Have a great PPR journey
 

Sparky-eg

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Hi All,
This is my first time posting here , many useful information thank you for sharing.
In 2013 my application was rejected due to medical inadmissibility of my son who has Autism, I am planning to apply now again through EE asap.
I wanted to know if anybody has already experience of children with autism under the newly introduced changes in medical excessive demand procedures.
 
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canuck78

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Hi All,
This is my first time posting here , many useful information thank you for sharing.
In 2013 my application was rejected due to medical inadmissibility of my son who has Autism, I am planning to apply now again through EE asap.
I wanted to know if anybody has already experience of children with autism under the newly introduced changes in medical excessive demand procedures.
No but curious to see what happens given the huge lack of programs and resources for young adults with autism. Given there is long waiting list to access the services available for young children and almost no services for young adults and older, I don't think the new policy is a good idea. Would anticipate Canadian parents with autistic children feel the same.
 

SriTLIN

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No but curious to see what happens given the huge lack of programs and resources for young adults with autism. Given there is long waiting list to access the services available for young children and almost no services for young adults and older, I don't think the new policy is a good idea. Would anticipate Canadian parents with autistic children feel the same.
I partially agree with you regarding the new policy, due to economical impact on Canadian society.
But i believe medical conditions should never be a reason to bar someone/ a family looking forward to migrate to a new country, unless it is contagious or endangers the health of other individuals. Canada cannot closed the gates on immigration (thru EE program), since it is one of the major contributions to economy at this moment; also we cannot be sure, whether Canada would continue to fund the public health care for everyone in future (considering the growing number of population in Canada). As human beings, we always look forward to a bright sustaining future and not become dependent on anyone/ group at the same time.

@Sparky-eg, as the new medical inadmissibility rules are already in effect, i hope you have a smooth journey for your PR application this time.
 

canuck78

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I partially agree with you regarding the new policy, due to economical impact on Canadian society.
But i believe medical conditions should never be a reason to bar someone/ a family looking forward to migrate to a new country, unless it is contagious or endangers the health of other individuals. Canada cannot closed the gates on immigration (thru EE program), since it is one of the major contributions to economy at this moment; also we cannot be sure, whether Canada would continue to fund the public health care for everyone in future (considering the growing number of population in Canada). As human beings, we always look forward to a bright sustaining future and not become dependent on anyone/ group at the same time.

@Sparky-eg, as the new medical inadmissibility rules are already in effect, i hope you have a smooth journey for your PR application this time.
Autism ,developmental delays, severe disabilities, etc are a very specific class of medical disorders. There is currently long wait time for the services/therapies required while the children are quite young. Most families have to pay for a significant portion of the therapy because only a certain amount is covered. As children get older and their need grow there is very few opportunities for respite care for the parents. Parents are lucky if they are offered 1-2 weekends a year. The families are primary caregivers as well as parents because they don't qualify for much (if any) homecare. The real issue is when the children get to be adults and no longer qualify for school. Specialized schooling is very expensive because you can't have one teacher for 30 students. One of the reasons these children were often denied was due to the cost of schooling. Schools with specialized education have many teachers, teaching aids, personal support workers, speech-language pathologists, occupational therapists, physical therapists, social workers, psychologists, specialized transportation, medical supplies, specialized equipment, etc. Once children no longer qualify for schooling at age 21 there is no place for them to go during the day. Many of them will never be independent so someone needs to be with them at all times. That is usually the parents. In cases of severe disability the person may qualify for a few hours with a personal support worker or nurse per week. If the parents are unable to care for the children at home or when the parents get too old there is no place for these children to go. The current wait times for group homes are over 25 years. There is a huge cohort who have recently aged out of the system and are in their 20s. Some parents have actually abandoned their children out of desperation. They know if they are a ward of the state they will go to the top of the list.

Although the immigration minister said there was a small number of people who were being rejected due to the medical burden clause I believe that many just didn't apply. In the case of high needs children I personally wish there was a bit of a compromise. If parents were living and working in Canada discovered their children had a learning or medical issue they would not need to pass the medical. In many countries no specialized services and schooling are available or are covered for children with autism, deaf or blind children etc. Of course parents would seek out treatment for their children even if they had not intended to immigrate before children. Given that I have heard that many families with similar children are at their breaking point and have spent all their savings and are crying out for help I think the money is needed for the children already in the system before adding more.

I am curious to see what will happen to this application and if CIC may reconsider if they get a flood of applications from parents of children with complex needs. The child in the case could be very high functioning and may be able to live independently as an adult. That is unfortunately not the large proportion of cases. I wish the poster the best. Life must be challenging in general.

If Canada didn't have a medical inadmissibility clause people would migrate primarily to get medical care. If a family member is sick most people stop working to care for them of have to cut down on their work hours so it definitely has an economic impact.

Just an example from one of the better provinces for autism care:
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/group-homes-for-adults-with-autism-unaffordable-and-inaccessible-parents-say-1.2937838
 
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Outworld

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Autism ,developmental delays, severe disabilities, etc are a very specific class of medical disorders. There is currently long wait time for the services/therapies required while the children are quite young. Most families have to pay for a significant portion of the therapy because only a certain amount is covered. As children get older and their need grow there is very few opportunities for respite care for the parents. Parents are lucky if they are offered 1-2 weekends a year. The families are primary caregivers as well as parents because they don't qualify for much (if any) homecare. The real issue is when the children get to be adults and no longer qualify for school. Specialized schooling is very expensive because you can't have one teacher for 30 students. One of the reasons these children were often denied was due to the cost of schooling. Schools with specialized education have many teachers, teaching aids, personal support workers, speech-language pathologists, occupational therapists, physical therapists, social workers, psychologists, specialized transportation, medical supplies, specialized equipment, etc. Once children no longer qualify for schooling at age 21 there is no place for them to go during the day. Many of them will never be independent so someone needs to be with them at all times. That is usually the parents. In cases of severe disability the person may qualify for a few hours with a personal support worker or nurse per week. If the parents are unable to care for the children at home or when the parents get too old there is no place for these children to go. The current wait times for group homes are over 25 years. There is a huge cohort who have recently aged out of the system and are in their 20s. Some parents have actually abandoned their children out of desperation. They know if they are a ward of the state they will go to the top of the list.

Although the immigration minister said there was a small number of people who were being rejected due to the medical burden clause I believe that many just didn't apply. In the case of high needs children I personally wish there was a bit of a compromise. If parents were living and working in Canada discovered their children had a learning or medical issue they would not need to pass the medical. In many countries no specialized services and schooling are available or are covered for children with autism, deaf or blind children etc. Of course parents would seek out treatment for their children even if they had not intended to immigrate before children. Given that I have heard that many families with similar children are at their breaking point and have spent all their savings and are crying out for help I think the money is needed for the children already in the system before adding more.

I am curious to see what will happen to this application and if CIC may reconsider if they get a flood of applications from parents of children with complex needs. The child in the case could be very high functioning and may be able to live independently as an adult. That is unfortunately not the large proportion of cases. I wish the poster the best. Life must be challenging in general.

If Canada didn't have a medical inadmissibility clause people would migrate primarily to get medical care. If a family member is sick most people stop working to care for them of have to cut down on their work hours so it definitely has an economic impact.

Just an example from one of the better provinces for autism care:
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/group-homes-for-adults-with-autism-unaffordable-and-inaccessible-parents-say-1.2937838
Almost all EE economic immigrants are well educated and have lots to offer to Canada. From economic point of view, those immigrants contribute a lot to the economy of Canada. Most of them find job and become taxpayers which inject money to the economy. Not all people with all types of medical conditions are accepted, the current rule apply only to those whose medical conditions would not cost more than approx 20000 CAD per year (which is fairly average).
Therefore, having met rigourous criteria set by Canada medical condition alone should not be an obstacle for immigrants. I believe that we shouldn't forget about human rights Canada is not a third world country it is on of the most developed countries in the world with advanced society.
So humans right, potential contribution from prospective immigrants far outweigh medical inadmissibility bar.
If someone with medical condition had been able to get proper education and later worked and studied foreign languages there should be no bar for him/her to be successful in Canada as well. So people should not worry about certain medical conditions immigrants have.
 
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I can share my story and my progress with everyone.

This is my medical situation;

I have had done my medical on April 30.
I have couple of old medical situations (heart surgery as infant; no medication, perfectly healthy. Cancer history; underwent surgery and took chemo 9 years ago, no routine medication or complications, perfectly healthy) and the panel physician asked the last visit notes from my oncologist. The oncologist said in her report that I may need another surgery for prophylactic reasons (to prevent any possible diseases that may occur in the future).
The panel physican told me that this might be a problem but we have to wait and see what the immigration officers say about it.

I am afraid that they will see it as an extra burden, but i do not plan to have surgery in Canada anyway, with no family members to help me recover etc. but i guess it is not possible to explain and convince physicians/immigration officers about that.

now, i am waiting for panel physician to upload documents. then, i will submit my application.
i will keep these info updated, for anyone that may benefit from.

fingers crossed...
Have you passed your medicals now? Please share your story
 

canuck78

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Almost all EE economic immigrants are well educated and have lots to offer to Canada. From economic point of view, those immigrants contribute a lot to the economy of Canada. Most of them find job and become taxpayers which inject money to the economy. Not all people with all types of medical conditions are accepted, the current rule apply only to those whose medical conditions would not cost more than approx 20000 CAD per year (which is fairly average).
Therefore, having met rigourous criteria set by Canada medical condition alone should not be an obstacle for immigrants. I believe that we shouldn't forget about human rights Canada is not a third world country it is on of the most developed countries in the world with advanced society.
So humans right, potential contribution from prospective immigrants far outweigh medical inadmissibility bar.
If someone with medical condition had been able to get proper education and later worked and studied foreign languages there should be no bar for him/her to be successful in Canada as well. So people should not worry about certain medical conditions immigrants have.
I will be curious to see what happens to this particular subsection. As the poster was originally indicating we have not seen what will happen to these cases now that schooling costs have been eliminated. Not many details were provided in terms of what will be counted towards the $20000 so nobody really knows whether this will change how children with autism, developmental delays, etc will be assessed. Each child is very different as well as their medical and social needs. I assume you are lucky and have not been exposed to various chronic illness, longterm care, special needs programs in Canada. There is a lot demand and never enough supply. The expectations is that families will do a lot of the care and contribute financially for services or items that are not provided. We have partial medicare in Canada. We treat acute needs really well but not longterm issues. People often have unrealistic expectation of the system. Canadian citizens included.
 

Javeline

Star Member
Jun 15, 2017
138
140
AOR Received.
12/4/2017
IELTS Request
Along with application
File Transfer...
12/5/2017
Med's Request
24/4/2018
Med's Done....
11/5/2018 - pass 3 days later
Interview........
None
Passport Req..
23/5/2018
VISA ISSUED...
18-06-2018
LANDED..........
Sep 2018
I will be curious to see what happens to this particular subsection. As the poster was originally indicating we have not seen what will happen to these cases now that schooling costs have been eliminated. Not many details were provided in terms of what will be counted towards the $20000 so nobody really knows whether this will change how children with autism, developmental delays, etc will be assessed. Each child is very different as well as their medical and social needs. I assume you are lucky and have not been exposed to various chronic illness, longterm care, special needs programs in Canada. There is a lot demand and never enough supply. The expectations is that families will do a lot of the care and contribute financially for services or items that are not provided. We have partial medicare in Canada. We treat acute needs really well but not longterm issues. People often have unrealistic expectation of the system. Canadian citizens included.
As I had mentioned before, admenments to the definition of social service of medical inadmissibility will be controversial, and if it is implemented immidiately , it will risk the politicians. That is why they start changing slowly in order to note consequences and assess what they should do in order to avoid risks of health system as well as political life!