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chikita321

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May 19, 2015
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Hi all, please I need your advice. I received an ITA on April 17 and recently submitted my application. However I've just gone back to check my application and realised I made an error in my privacy information. For the question if I've ever been refused a visa before I've selected No because I misunderstood it to mean if I was refused entry into a particular country and was never allowed to enter that country again. In 2007 I applied for and was refused a UK visitors visa however in 2008 I reapplied and was successful. In 2010 I reapplied again this time for a student visa and was given. I've now been in the UK now and have finished my studies and have been working since then. Now if I send a CSE now this may alert CIC to the error if they originally might have missed it and hence a refusal. On the other hand what are the chances that CIC would pick up on this and refuse my application? I know they have a sharing agreement with the US but do they also have with the UK? Please I need advice ASAP. Thanks a lot!
 

Pippin

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I am not an IMM expert, but it had been my observation that honesty is the best approach. Include a cover letter explaining what you told us here. Being refused a visa does not affect the points you had when you got your ITA. It affects admissibility and security checks and admitting your error before it is noticed will show that you did not intend to misrepresent your position. Good luck.
 

YamPower

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To be on the safe side, try not to consider whether or not they share information. Just be open and honest. It seems like it was an honest mistake.

In fact, it was a mistake made by me and other persons (I was refused a UK student visa in 2005 but mistakenly chose "No" in error to the question that asked about visa refusals or removal from Canada or any other country).

On the advice of another applicant who is much further along in the process, I sent a CSE to my local visa office explaining the error, the circumstances of the Visa refusal (type, country, approximate date), apologising, and seeking to reassure them that it was an honest error and not meant to be misrepresentation.

Send it ASAP. Good luck!
 

chikita321

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May 19, 2015
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Pippin said:
I am not an IMM expert, but it had been my observation that honesty is the best approach. Include a cover letter explaining what you told us here. Being refused a visa does not affect the points you had when you got your ITA. It affects admissibility and security checks and admitting your error before it is noticed will show that you did not intend to misrepresent your position. Good luck.
U sound as if I deliberately misrepresented myself, I didn't. Like I said I genuinely didn't know until I went back to look at my submitted application and someone also confirmed from someone that I should have put yes instead of no.
 

katja2684

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Jan 31, 2015
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Chikita in my opinion they are not able to check each and every visitor visa you had in Europe.
With the US is a different thing because they have shared databases but not with Europe.
I'm not saying you should withhold information but your denied UK visa is irrelevant for your Canadian PR application.
 

Pippin

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chikita321 said:
U sound as if I deliberately misrepresented myself, I didn't. Like I said I genuinely didn't know until I went back to look at my submitted application and someone also confirmed from someone that I should have put yes instead of no.
I did not think your mistake was deliberately made and I am sorry if my reply made you feel that way.
 

Lammawitch

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katja2684 said:
Chikita in my opinion they are not able to check each and every visitor visa you had in Europe.
With the US is a different thing because they have shared databases but not with Europe.
I'm not saying you should withhold information but your denied UK visa is irrelevant for your Canadian PR application.
You'd be surprised what CIC can and do check ;).

However, as Pippin suggested, the best & only thing to do for the OP is to inform them ASAP of the mistake.

(I believe it was a sincere mistake, it happens frequently. I've never heard of anyone being penalised for admitting and correcting such an error. I have heard of problems for those who didn't.)
 

katja2684

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Lammawitch said:
You'd be surprised what CIC can and do check ;).

However, as Pippin suggested, the best & only thing to do for the OP is to inform them ASAP of the mistake.

(I believe it was a sincere mistake, it happens frequently. I've never heard of anyone being penalised for admitting and correcting such an error. I have heard of problems for those who didn't.)
'You've heard of' or you know for sure?
 

scylla

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katja2684 said:
'You've heard of' or you know for sure?
We've seen quite a number of cases on this forum where people have been charged with misrepresentation, their application refused, and the ban from Canada applied because they failed to mention a past visa refusal (some of these have been immigration applications, some have been temporary visas such as student, visitor or work permits). It's fairly easy for CIC to verify Europe travel records. Unless someone really doesn't care about their PR application and doesn't mind getting a ban from Canada (which is now 5 years for misrepresentation) - errors such as these need to be corrected as soon as they are discovered.
 

scylla

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katja2684 said:
I'm not saying you should withhold information but your denied UK visa is irrelevant for your Canadian PR application.
This is horrible advice. It's not irrelevant at all. It's very relevant. Again, failure to mention is misrepresentation. Misrepresentation is a 5 year ban from Canada and a refusal of the application.
 

katja2684

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scylla said:
This is horrible advice. It's not irrelevant at all. It's very relevant. Again, failure to mention is misrepresentation. Misrepresentation is a 5 year ban from Canada and a refusal of the application.
I explicitly said that I don't suggest the OP should withhold information. I just consider the information CIC is asking for totally irrelevant.
Please don't repeat 'misrepresentation' like a broken record, I know how to read (you obviously don't).
Unless you're a lawyer or an immigration consultant I don't give a cent about your 'expert' opinion.
Tell me one more thing, how can CIC 'easily' check travel history for countries of the European Union when members travel without passport?Are you an expert in that too?
 

jes_ON

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katja2684 said:
I just consider the information CIC is asking for totally irrelevant.

Unfortunately, only CIC gets to decide what information is relevant to them.

Unless you're a lawyer or an immigration consultant I don't give a cent about your 'expert' opinion.

FWIW, scylla consistently gives excellent advice - not necessarily true of all consultants and lawyers - and donates time, energy, and yes, expertise - to help other applicants. This is one of the most respected members on this forum; you're free to ignore the advice (nothing wrong with approaching an internet advice with healthy skepticism), but in this case, do so at your own risk.

Tell me one more thing, how can CIC 'easily' check travel history for countries of the European Union when members travel without passport?

What is the relevance of this? The OP needed a visa for the UK, so is clearly not a citizen of an EU nation.

As for the OP's question about whether Canada and the UK share data - consider that the Queen of England is also the Queen of Canada, the historical ties are tighter with the UK than the USA... and I'm pretty sure you can figure out the answer.

So, to the OP - just to be clear - I concur with scylla, lammawitch, pippin, yampower - you should attempt to correct your error. Take heart that it is a common error. It will not hurt your application to explain the error, but if you ignore it, it *could* hurt your application for reasons already explained.
 

YamPower

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Jan 13, 2015
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Passport Req..
09-09-2015
VISA ISSUED...
23-09-2015
LANDED..........
13-11-2015
Chikita hasn't come back to comment in a few days. Let's hope she's sent the CSE.
 

katja2684

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jes_ON said:
Tell me one more thing, how can CIC 'easily' check travel history for countries of the European Union when members travel without passport?

What is the relevance of this? The OP needed a visa for the UK, so is clearly not a citizen of an EU nation.
It is relevant because the person you are defending said that CIC can easily verify Europe travel records (maybe you should re-read the thread).
I'm 100% sure this is not the case with EU members and I also have a personal experience that proves it. I don't mind reading 'expert' advice on this forum it's just that some statements make me laugh ;)