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Married After COPR

eldee

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I had a change in family composition after getting COPR . I have imformed CIC about the change. Can sombody advise me what will happen next .
 

eldee

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Sep 28, 2012
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In my Visa they told me to inform CIC .. which I have did . I have not recieved any update yet
 

akbardxb

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eldee said:
In my Visa they told me to inform CIC .. which I have did . I have not recieved any update yet
As said in an earlier response, do not let your validity expire. You may have to start afresh as per the prevailing rules at the time. Once you have landed, apply for your spouse.
 

scylla

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Goku said:
I will suggest that complete your landing, so that you are on safe side as they wont renew single entry visa, and once ECAS shows "Completed" from "Decision Made", apply for Spousal PR on basis of yours. Below is link to make application for PR-Spouse.
NO NO NO This is a horrible suggestion and completely incorrect information that will ruin the OP's life. If the OP lands without adding his spouse to his application first and being issues a new visa, then two things will happen:

1) He will NEVER be able to sponsor his spouse because she wasn't delcared in his application.
2) He will be committing misrepresentation by landing on a CORP issued to a single person when he is in fact married. If CIC finds out, they could revoke his PR status and order him to leave Canada.

The OP only has one option. He must let the visa office know he has married, return his CORP (it is no longer valid now that he has gotten married), complete all of the forms required to add his spouse to his application and then wait for the VO to re-issue a new CORP for both him and his new wife.
 

eldee

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I got a reply that it is too late to add my dependents and COPR cannot be extended . What should I do now .
 

Goku

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eldee said:
I got a reply that it is too late to add my dependents and COPR cannot be extended . What should I do now .
Dude I told you earlier as well you have no way out. Complete your landing before visa expires, when ECAS says "Completed", Apply for spouse. I only see that way. All up to you. Surrendering COPR is stupidest thing to do.
 

Goku

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scylla said:
NO NO NO This is a horrible suggestion and completely incorrect information that will ruin the OP's life. If the OP lands without adding his spouse to his application first and being issues a new visa, then two things will happen:

1) He will NEVER be able to sponsor his spouse because she wasn't delcared in his application.
How can he declare spouse if he don't have any??
2) He will be committing misrepresentation by landing on a CORP issued to a single person when he is in fact married. If CIC finds out, they could revoke his PR status and order him to leave Canada.
What he mentioned above is He got married after he received COPR. That means decision was already made on his application. So, it wont be considered misrepresentation. It will be misrepresentation if he was married before receiving COPR and didn't disclose it in his application. If he wants to add his spouse then he has to file an appeal. It better not to file an appeal once you receive COPR.

The OP only has one option. He must let the visa office know he has married, return his CORP (it is no longer valid now that he has gotten married), complete all of the forms required to add his spouse to his application and then wait for the VO to re-issue a new CORP for both him and his new wife.
Surrendering means to start process all over again. I have never seen CIC re-issue COPR and single entry Visa.
 

ainpfamily

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see this ops manual

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/op/op02-eng.pdf

section 5.10 - 5.12
 

akbardxb

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scylla said:
NO NO NO This is a horrible suggestion and completely incorrect information that will ruin the OP's life. If the OP lands without adding his spouse to his application first and being issues a new visa, then two things will happen:

1) He will NEVER be able to sponsor his spouse because she wasn't delcared in his application.
2) He will be committing misrepresentation by landing on a CORP issued to a single person when he is in fact married. If CIC finds out, they could revoke his PR status and order him to leave Canada.

The OP only has one option. He must let the visa office know he has married, return his CORP (it is no longer valid now that he has gotten married), complete all of the forms required to add his spouse to his application and then wait for the VO to re-issue a new CORP for both him and his new wife.
This is not misrepresentation. A decision was made based on his single status. He married after getting a valid visa.

He also wrote to the VO who have confirmed that it is too late to change COPR.

Therefore the only option that remains is to complete landing and then apply for the spouse.

If this was only a religious ceremony, then maybe a court / legal marriage after landing date will help the purpose.

I have known couples from India who had a civil marriage in court and used the document to apply for a US visa and then followed it up with the religious ceremony. This is not breaking any kind of law.
 

TO DREAMLAND

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akbardxb said:
This is not misrepresentation. A decision was made based on his single status. He married after getting a valid visa.

He also wrote to the VO who have confirmed that it is too late to change COPR.

Therefore the only option that remains is to complete landing and then apply for the spouse.

If this was only a religious ceremony, then maybe a court / legal marriage after landing date will help the purpose.

I have known couples from India who had a civil marriage in court and used the document to apply for a US visa and then followed it up with the religious ceremony. This is not breaking any kind of law.
I have a different opinion. Option 1) You should have landed and then return and get married 2) Inform the VO about the change in your family atatus, send back your COPR, wait for the success in the PR application and land together,td
 

zardoz

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eldee said:
I got a reply that it is too late to add my dependents and COPR cannot be extended . What should I do now .
IF you decide to go ahead and attempt to land with your CoPR stating that you are single, you will be asked at that time, by the immigration officer, if your family composition/marital status has changed.

It is then that you must tell the immigration officer that you are now married. If you don't, it will THEN be misrepresentation.

You will have to abide by whatever decision that immigration officer makes. Your application is not complete at "Decision Made" but only at "Landing". (Determined by case law).

See http://www.canlii.org/en/ca/irb/doc/2012/2012canlii98856/2012canlii98856.html for an example of what happens when you lie at the POE. Also http://www.canlii.org/en/ca/irb/doc/2009/2009canlii80523/2009canlii80523.html
 

akbardxb

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zardoz said:
IF you decide to go ahead and attempt to land with your CoPR stating that you are single, you will be asked at that time, by the immigration officer, if your family composition/marital status has changed.

It is then that you must tell the immigration officer that you are now married. If you don't, it will THEN be misrepresentation.

You will have to abide by whatever decision that immigration officer makes. Your application is not complete at "Decision Made" but only at "Landing". (Determined by case law).

See http://www.canlii.org/en/ca/irb/doc/2012/2012canlii98856/2012canlii98856.html for an example of what happens when you lie at the POE.
The only difference in the judgement you have quoted is the the applicant married before the visa was issued. In this case, if the facts are as stated, the applicant was single at the time of visa issuance and was not hiding anything.

Returning the COPR at this stage effectively means reapplying for the visa from scratch. Having said that, there might be a benefit in writing and checking with the CIC instead of the VO.

This might be a situation where a lawyer's advice will be invaluable.

Good luck with your choice, whichever route you take.
 

zardoz

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It's the situation at the moment of Landing that these two cases refer to as the defining moment of misrepresentation. The time of visa issue is not the main aspect. They hinge on the final declaration, signed by the applicant, in front of the immigration officer at the POE. CANLII is full of similar cases but a complete list would be boring, so I just selected a recent couple at random.
 

eldee

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Thanks Friends ... What does the reply from CIC mean. they simply indicated that COPR cannot be extended . there is no other information
 

informatics

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eldee said:
Thanks Friends ... What does the reply from CIC mean. they simply indicated that COPR cannot be extended . there is no other information
Scylla has given you the correct advice . If you want to sponsor your spouse anytime in future , you must get your COPR cancelled , file an application for your spouse and wait till her application is approved. Your best bet will be to ask your visa office to advice what needs to be done by you in this situation .

Good Luck !