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Marriage Fraud? Can husband accuse me of it?

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sms316 said:
I know this all seems like I had it planned but with all honesty I didnt.

I had a rough marriage. somethings didnt click in and I only saw that after we got married.
I would have never used someone for that reason. No one will believe me but I know i am telling the truth.

I know it is a hard case to investigate and get proof for but I wanted to ask for opinions.

Thanks
I believe you -- but that's because one version of marriage fraud is where we trick ourselves, people in a hard situation that will be solved by marrying naturally see marrying as more attractive. This is very human. If the man you married had been a refugee about to be deported, of course you wouldn't have married him. Most legitimate marriages involve some degree of self-deception, and whether they work out or not depends on whether both parties have the will to work things out when these start to fail. Usually when we use other people, it's because they want us to; I'm sure that your ex used you for something as well. Many of the Western men who marry foreign women have 'odd' ideas of what the matrimonial state is going to be like.

Personally, I think birthright citizenship is a weird idea, and I think citizenship in general, the theory that one group of people get to claim one chunk of the Earth and decide who lives there is a bit nasty too; I bet one day people will look back on it as unjust. Anyway, plenty of Canadians are born every day who grow up to do jerkish things, marry people and leave them and take their children and money too; you're now a Canadian, your marriage doesn't sound as bad as some that happen here, so if you do worthwhile things with that status, who is going to kick? CIC's all tied up counting the days in/days out of consultants who work in the Middle East. Welcome to the land of the maple leaf! We're not quite an open-admissions college, but it's not like every incoming freshman is personally selected either . . .
 

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sms316.....because people like you a lot of the real couples are suffering...me and my husband are real deal...but been refused visa 3 and half yrs later we are still waiting to be reunited .....all the couples fight and you gona have to learn to work out things.(like charlied said)...I been through a lot but never gave up...I hate to see people like u cause of u fraud people a lot of real couples are suffering :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
 

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Wow. There are a ton of assumptions and a lot of judgement in here. Along with some outright nonsense ("Most legitimate marriages involve some degree of self-deception..." What in the h3ll?!?).

The OP asked if there was any danger of being found to have committed fraud. Some posters were helpful and demonstrated how, from an outside perspective, it could certainly appear that she married in order to obtain residency. Others have shared that, with CIC's limited resources, many suspect cases are not even investigated, and there's no way to know whether or not CIC would investigate if her husband reported theirs as a fraudulent marriage.

That's it. That's all the more anyone here can know. All the rest of this "Because of people like you," and, "Go back to your home country," and, "You should work things out with your husband," and etc. is the OP's business and more than a little presumptuous and rude.
 

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QuebecOkie said:
Wow. There are a ton of assumptions and a lot of judgement in here. Along with some outright nonsense ("Most legitimate marriages involve some degree of self-deception..." What in the h3ll?!?).

The OP asked if there was any danger of being found to have committed fraud. Some posters were helpful and demonstrated how, from an outside perspective, it could certainly appear that she married in order to obtain residency. Others have shared that, with CIC's limited resources, many suspect cases are not even investigated, and there's no way to know whether or not CIC would investigate if her husband reported theirs as a fraudulent marriage.

That's it. That's all the more anyone here can know. All the rest of this "Because of people like you," and, "Go back to your home country," and, "You should work things out with your husband," and etc. is the OP's business and more than a little presumptuous and rude.
I totally 100% agree with you my friend...

People are just jumping the gun very easily now a days. Jesus was crucified only on assumptions too!
The OP came to the forum and asked a question not for a judgement!

Regards, messenger
 

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QuebecOkie said:
Wow. There are a ton of assumptions and a lot of judgement in here. Along with some outright nonsense ("Most legitimate marriages involve some degree of self-deception..." What in the h3ll?!?).

The OP asked if there was any danger of being found to have committed fraud. Some posters were helpful and demonstrated how, from an outside perspective, it could certainly appear that she married in order to obtain residency. Others have shared that, with CIC's limited resources, many suspect cases are not even investigated, and there's no way to know whether or not CIC would investigate if her husband reported theirs as a fraudulent marriage.

That's it. That's all the more anyone here can know. All the rest of this "Because of people like you," and, "Go back to your home country," and, "You should work things out with your husband," and etc. is the OP's business and more than a little presumptuous and rude.
+1
 

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I agree with quebecokie. There are a lot of assumptions made by others. These kind of comments are not warranted on this forum. Please keep your assumptions to yourself.

OP has enough concerns to figure out what to expect from CIC so that the OP will expect the unexpected. Now that the OP has the info she needs to know, she can deal with it without the "uncalled for remarks" towards her.

Screech339
 

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QuebecOkie said:
Wow. There are a ton of assumptions and a lot of judgement in here. Along with some outright nonsense ("Most legitimate marriages involve some degree of self-deception..." What in the h3ll?!?).

The OP asked if there was any danger of being found to have committed fraud. Some posters were helpful and demonstrated how, from an outside perspective, it could certainly appear that she married in order to obtain residency. Others have shared that, with CIC's limited resources, many suspect cases are not even investigated, and there's no way to know whether or not CIC would investigate if her husband reported theirs as a fraudulent marriage.

That's it. That's all the more anyone here can know. All the rest of this "Because of people like you," and, "Go back to your home country," and, "You should work things out with your husband," and etc. is the OP's business and more than a little presumptuous and rude.
if the marriage is over and she's risk being accused for marriage fraud I don't see what's wrong with her going back. We don't know what really happened, by just saying something didn't seem right and she found out after marriage to me isn't enough to tell if she can be accused of mf. It was just a suggestion maybe that didn't come out right , on the face of it ,it seem some way . Sometimes you may not get a yes or no answer . All the best to her though am sure she got the answer she needs from all that has been said, you are taking me out of context , or reading meaning to what I said . I didn't say " go back to your country " I said "have u considered going back to your home country since the marriage didnt work out?" That's a completely legitimate suggestion and the ov said she is thinking about that but doesn't know what to do yet. not everyone remain in canada after a failed marriage .If something happened to my spouse and i under a year I will surely consider going back. I wondered how things pop up after marriage and pr because I seem to have this fear that maybe being apart from each other whiles going through the process can be the cause ? Or other reasons I try to find out if that can be a problem etc . Hope you understand where am coming from? I am not accusing her of anything plz , thanks
 

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screech339 said:
I agree with quebecokie. There are a lot of assumptions made by others. These kind of comments are not warranted on this forum. Please keep your assumptions to yourself.

OP has enough concerns to figure out what to expect from CIC so that the OP will expect the unexpected. Now that the OP has the info she needs to know, she can deal with it without the "uncalled for remarks" towards her.

Screech339
exactly