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jessaruh

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I have tried to google these questions and I find the actual official website to be inefficient when trying to find information.

I am doing the family class sponsorship application. My significant other will be sponsoring me to live there, he is Canadian, I am an American. Background information: I was denied access into Canada about 8 or so months ago over a silly misunderstanding on my part where I had accidentally over stayed (edit: I just learned the term is I guess called flagpoling, I had no idea, lol), my border guards told me I just had to stay out of the country, living and working for 6 months before I could come back, so that time has lapsed. I was previously a university student and graduate from a Canadian institution and I have worked in Canada.

Question one: I cannot find my UCI number, I have previously lived in Canada before as a Student and had a work Visa. The work visa was left in Canada, I no longer have the student one. When filling the application out, what do I do if I do not have that number? Is there a way for me to find it?

Question two: How will I know if I need an interview for my application? Will it be before I send in the application that I find out or after?

Question three: How do I know which office to process the application at? This is question 4 on the sponsored partner generic form.

Question four: Do I do my portion of the application and documents and then send it to my sponsor and have him send the whole thing as a single package?

Question five: Do I do my medical testing after he sends it or before? (The physician I will be going to uses something called E-Medical.)

Question six: How do I know if I am in the e-medical system? I was in the Canadian health care system previously but I am guessing E-Medical is different? How do I apply into it? How do I even find information on it??

Question seven: What are acceptable national identity documents other than a passport or is a passport "good enough"?


I was going to apply as a conjugal partner because we didn't get married because I was still in university at the time, I then tried to extend my work permit but it was refused so I left. But reading the pinned topic 'Spousal Sponsorship', that seems to be a bad idea? I am PRETTY sure that I have a lot of evidence that we are genuine, we've been together for almost 7 years, I have pictures throughout the years, chat logs, skype conversation history, plane tickets, greyhound tickets, emails, ... But I am just so nervous it won't be enough.

Someone please help me, please. Thank you all for your time and answers, I really REALLY appreciate it. These applications can be highly anxiety inducing. :'(
 

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jessaruh said:
I have tried to google these questions and I find the actual official website to be inefficient when trying to find information.

I am doing the family class sponsorship application. My significant other will be sponsoring me to live there, he is Canadian, I am an American. Background information: I was denied access into Canada about 8 or so months ago over a silly misunderstanding on my part where I had accidentally over stayed (edit: I just learned the term is I guess called flagpoling, I had no idea, lol), my border guards told me I just had to stay out of the country, living and working for 6 months before I could come back, so that time has lapsed. I was previously a university student and graduate from a Canadian institution and I have worked in Canada.

Question one: I cannot find my UCI number, I have previously lived in Canada before as a Student and had a work Visa. The work visa was left in Canada, I no longer have the student one. When filling the application out, what do I do if I do not have that number? Is there a way for me to find it?

Question two: How will I know if I need an interview for my application? Will it be before I send in the application that I find out or after?

Question three: How do I know which office to process the application at? This is question 4 on the sponsored partner generic form.

Question four: Do I do my portion of the application and documents and then send it to my sponsor and have him send the whole thing as a single package?

Question five: Do I do my medical testing after he sends it or before? (The physician I will be going to uses something called E-Medical.)

Question six: How do I know if I am in the e-medical system? I was in the Canadian health care system previously but I am guessing E-Medical is different? How do I apply into it? How do I even find information on it??

Question seven: What are acceptable national identity documents other than a passport or is a passport "good enough"?


I was going to apply as a conjugal partner because we didn't get married because I was still in university at the time, I then tried to extend my work permit but it was refused so I left. But reading the pinned topic 'Spousal Sponsorship', that seems to be a bad idea? I am PRETTY sure that I have a lot of evidence that we are genuine, we've been together for almost 7 years, I have pictures throughout the years, chat logs, skype conversation history, plane tickets, greyhound tickets, emails, ... But I am just so nervous it won't be enough.

Someone please help me, please. Thank you all for your time and answers, I really REALLY appreciate it. These applications can be highly anxiety inducing. :'(
Hi,

I'm just passing through right now, so I can only provide brief answers to get things rolling for you:

1. Contact CIC and they can retrieve your UCI number.

2. If you require an interview, it will happen AFTER you submit your application...much later! Typically, interviews are scheduled if CIC has questions or doubts about the genuineness of your relationship/marriage.

3. All Inland applications are processed (entirely) in Canada, starting with CPC-M (Mississauga) and then transferred to your local CIC office for the completion and/or interview(s). Outland applications for Americans are usually processed in Canada as well (CPC-M followed by CPP-O (Ottawa) for the remainder.

4. Yes. You must send everything together in one giant envelope/box/crate, etc. LOL!

5. If you are applying with an Outland application, do the medical (as well as his FBI PCC) prior to submitting your application.

6. E-medical is simply the way that the CIC approved panel physician submits the results to CIC.

7. Good enough, but you will also need a copy of your birth certificate.

Now...here's the bad news:
If you are not married, you can apply as a Common-Law partner, BUT you must be able to prove that you and your partner have lived together for 12 continuous months. This is non-negotiable, so if you haven't met this requirement, don't waste your time!

Good luck!
 

jessaruh

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Ponga said:
Hi,

I'm just passing through right now, so I can only provide brief answers to get things rolling for you:

1. Contact CIC and they can retrieve your UCI number.

2. If you require an interview, it will happen AFTER you submit your application...much later! Typically, interviews are scheduled if CIC has questions or doubts about the genuineness of your relationship/marriage.

3. All Inland applications are processed (entirely) in Canada, starting with CPC-M (Mississauga) and then transferred to your local CIC office for the completion and/or interview(s). Outland applications for Americans are usually processed in Canada as well (CPC-M followed by CPP-O (Ottawa) for the remainder.

4. Yes. You must send everything together in one giant envelope/box/crate, etc. LOL!

5. If you are applying with an Outland application, do the medical (as well as his FBI PCC) prior to submitting your application.

6. E-medical is simply the way that the CIC approved panel physician submits the results to CIC.

7. Good enough, but you will also need a copy of your birth certificate.

Now...here's the bad news:
If you are not married, you can apply as a Common-Law partner, BUT you must be able to prove that you and your partner have lived together for 12 continuous months. This is non-negotiable, so if you haven't met this requirement, don't waste your time!

Good luck!
Hello, thank you for taking the time to answering my post even if briefly.

I was going to apply as a conjugal partner. What sort of proof can I provide that we've lived together for so long? We HAVE lived together for that long but I am not sure what can prove it?

How do I contact CIC? I've tried their phone number but they won't accept outside Canada phone calls...

Thank you...
 

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You're applying as common law - not conjugal - right? Conjugal won't work for you.
 

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Conjugal partners who are not legally barred from getting married tend to have a high rejection rate. Some people have managed to do it, but you will have better chances if you do common-law or marriage. Conjugal is generally recommended only for people who legally CAN NOT marry, not people who just dont feel like marrying right now.
 

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What sort of proof is acceptable for common law then? What are some examples of what they look for as proof?
 

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jessaruh said:
What sort of proof is acceptable for common law then? What are some examples of what they look for as proof?
Joint lease that had both names for the time frame that you indicate that you were cohabiting at that address.
Utility bills that were in both names, showing that address.
Mail that was delivered to that address (for each of you).

You have to prove that you were living together at the same physical address for 12 months (not 364 days). This is the most important part of a Common-Law sponsorship application.

It sounds like this is past tense for you, so if you don't have these things (stored in a box somewhere??), it's going to be very difficult to prove this to CIC.
 

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jessaruh said:
What sort of proof is acceptable for common law then? What are some examples of what they look for as proof?
You'll need a few. Basically things that prove you lived together for a year or more.

- lease agreement with both of your names on it
- property ownership agreement with both of your names on it
- letters sent to the same address with each of your names on them
- joint utility bills
- some get letters from landlords confirming they have lived together (affidavits)
- wills / beneficiaries / other legal documents where the same address is listed for both