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Manila Philippines Time line - Conjugal Partner - Male to Male, Female to Female

honey08

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hi nqstv247

we have the same situation.. bestfriend kme before nagstart ang reationship nmen.. 2yrs kme nagshare sa same house then cofused kme kc baka iconsider un as a common law partner.. may lawyer ba kau? ano na ngayon ang mga plano nyo? thanks in advance if u give any me update to ur apply :)
 

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honey08 said:
hi nqstv247

we have the same situation.. bestfriend kme before nagstart ang reationship nmen.. 2yrs kme nagshare sa same house then cofused kme kc baka iconsider un as a common law partner.. may lawyer ba kau? ano na ngayon ang mga plano nyo? thanks in advance if u give any me update to ur apply :)
as long as you can proved na genuine relationship niyo, try to read the 1st page of this forum marami kayo matutunan...
 

jurmill

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May 18, 2012
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Hi guys, im new here!I just received a letter from canadian embassy that im already for medical, however, may common law partner (m2m) was removed from my application. We already submitted proofs but accdg to the visa section he did not qualify for R1 criteria/requirement....our history is I applied last may 2010. We met sept 2010. I filed him as my additional dependent as my common law partner last jan 2012. I didnt know from the start that I can include him in my application until such time i have read that its possible.so can I still make an appeal eventhough he was removed from my application as my common law partner?need some help guys....thank you.....
 

livelife

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Mar 18, 2012
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hi jurmill,
So both of you are applying for immigration? are both of you from the Philippines? I think, you must be a citizen or PR of Canada to bring your common-law partner as your dependent.

Or maybe, you can file for common-law sponsorship if warranted.

Can you shed more light about your case?
 

jurmill

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May 18, 2012
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We are both from the philippines.im the principal applicant.but before I filed my partner, I did ask first the embassy if I can still include him and they said YES!so jan of 2012 I filed him as my common law partner, submitted the reqs then march came when they sent me another letter requesting for other proofs otherwise he will be removed from my application.today, I got another letter that I can have my medical but he is not included.a note says that he did not qualify the definition of a co,mon law partner as per R1 and he was removed from my application....so that is our story.....now,with this can weI still make an appeal to the embassy?thank you.....
 

livelife

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Mar 18, 2012
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Got it Jurmill. So, the VO is saying that for R1 criteria, the VO was not convinced, despite all the proofs presented in your application that 1. you are living with your spouse in a conjugal relationship and 2. that you have cohabited for at least one year. So, it is first requirement to consider your partner as your dependent.

If in your own assessment, you are convinced that you have been living with your partner in a conjugal relationship for at least a year, then maybe you can write a letter to the embassy to justify your claim.

I dont think that you can automatically file an appeal because I guess, IMHO, appeal is reserved only for Canadian citizens or PR who filed an spousal sponsorship.

I hope someone can give some more advice.
 

livelife

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Mar 18, 2012
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nqstv247 said:
Hello sa lahat! Newbie lang ako dito sa forum at marami na ding information na nababasa.

Gusto ko din sana humingi ng advice sa mga seniors sa forum at sa iba pang pwedeng makapag-share ng experience nila.

PR sa Canada ang partner ko for a year now and gusto sana namin mag-apply through conjugal application. Medyo naguguluhan lang kami sa case namin. Best friends kami since early college and even lived together (shared an apartment) for 3 years before due to proximity sa work areas namin. We didn't realize that we were feeling something towards each other na pala as more than best friends. We didn't entertain the thought as we didn't want to ruin our friendship, so we contained our feelings to ourselves. Before my partner (now) left for Canada, that was the time we realized we can't live without each other and took our friendship to the next level. We are official for more than a year now.

My questions are:

1. Can we apply through conjugal application based sa history ng relationship namin?
2. What do we need to present as evidences na we are a legit couple and what are the chances of us getting approved under this circumstance?
3. I'm just thinking about yung time na nag-live in kami before when we were still best friends and hindi pa talaga official yung relationship namin, ma-consider ba yun as common-law relationship? Parang medyo complicated yung case namin.

I hope may makapag-advice sakin on what to do kasi we really want to be together na kaya gusto na namin mag-apply soon. Thanks sa lahat ng makakasagot.
hi, I dont think that conjugal sponsorship is the best alternative for you. Of course, you wont be compelled to get married, but what prevented you from marrying your partner? Is it just a call or an option not to get married yet? Does staying unmarried and file for conjugal sponsorship is for you a stronger calling than marrying your partner? If yes, the VO may ask why?

Second, there was no significant event in the 3-year span of time that you were sharing the apartment with your partner that can prove a conjugal existence between the two of you. It is just like a normal housemate-boardmate thing unless you can present proofs that can prove otherwise.

Third, when before your boyfriend left for Canada, you found out that you had feelings for each other and both of you took it to the next level. What was that feeling? A desire to share a life together or just a feeling of being in love with each other? If I were the VO, I would think that you just started dating and until this time, you only have a boyfriend-girlfriend relationship.

This is just my humble and honest assessment of your case. I hope this helps. Hopefully someone can give some more advice.
So, in my opinion, if it is too much pain missing your partner who is far away, why cant he plan to marry you in the Philippines?
 

jurmill

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May 18, 2012
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Hi guys,

I need help kase dumating na yung medical ko last may 18 pero yung partner ko (m2m) e naremove sa application ko:(
Ang sabi sa letter e hindi nasatisfy sa common law definition as per R1 ang VO
Genuine talaga lahat yun kaya gusto ko magtanong o mag appeal kung bkt nag arrive sa ganung decision.
Meron kame joint account, isang katutak na pictures na kasama pa mga friends at both families namen, airline ticket at boarding pass, mga letters ng friends at professionals na nagpapatunay ng relationship namen na validated pa ng abogado...
Naging kame ng partner ko Oct 2010 then tumira ako sa bahay nila dec 2010 upto now pero hindi alam ng parehong family namen, pero mga kapatid ko alam but mommy ko hindi, sa partner ko e totally hindi alam sa kanila...help naman po kung ano dapat ko gawin kase authentic lahat ng pinasa namen na proof.
 

jurmill

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May 18, 2012
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Tanong ko lang po kung tama yung status na nilagay namen sa application: Common law partner
Kase baka mamaya mali pala kame instead e conjugal relationship dapat
Pero were both living together since dec 2010 upto now...
Nagtataka kase ako kung bakit naremove partner ko..
Hope they are still open to reconsider my partner kase genuine talaga relationship namen at sana nga nainterview man lang kame para nalaman mismo ng VO...
 

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jurmill said:
Tanong ko lang po kung tama yung status na nilagay namen sa application: Common law partner
Kase baka mamaya mali pala kame instead e conjugal relationship dapat
Pero were both living together since dec 2010 upto now...
Nagtataka kase ako kung bakit naremove partner ko..
Hope they are still open to reconsider my partner kase genuine talaga relationship namen at sana nga nainterview man lang kame para nalaman mismo ng VO...
Just to clarify things.. You are sponsored by whom? Parents?
 

raniloc

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jurmill said:
Hi,
Wala po sponsor na involve..
Nag apply po ako then i added my partner sa application ko po
Medyo magulo... So Filipino citizen ka at narito sa Pinas? Then nag file ka ng application? what type of application did you apply? Family Class Sponsorhip? FSW? LC1/LC2? Provincial Nominee?
 

livelife

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Mar 18, 2012
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hi Jurmill,
I think you need to submit more proofs about your marriage-like relationship and the one-year cohabitation requirement. But it is too late as your partner is already removed from the application. I think decision has been made.

Maybe, when you are in Canada already, holding PR status, then you can file an appeal.
But as of this time, I dont think you can appeal to the decision as you are still to be confirmed for PR.
 

livelife

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Mar 18, 2012
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hi Sir Raniloc,

I am also filing for conjugal application. But until now, I still dont get a feedback. I filed last September. It is already taking so much longer this time.

My ECAS status is still "application received". What else can I do Sir Rani?