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LMIA: should my wage meet occupation OR province median wage?

kryt0n

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istari said:
Because an "attractive kind of immigrant" is never going to be as attractive as ensuring that Canadian citizens have jobs.
Oh hey, I'm all for giving the locals the upper hand. However the town where I lived had a huge foreign work force because they are all service jobs - the jobs Canadians do not want to do.

When the LMIAs for food and beverage were cut the local tim hortons had to shut down because they couldn't find workers!
 

Navprateek

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LMIA is something which is really hard to achieve I gave up on it before my employer started thinking about it. I have been with a company for a year now and they want to keep me, I know all the facts and tact of my job and have been trained on few other things, so company would really love to keep me for a longer time than just year and a half (my visa expires in 2018).

I am at NOC 2175/2174 and my income is lower than the median wage of the category. My employer do have all the records of the candidates when they hired me back in 2015 but unfortunately cic doesn't accept those supporting documents. they want my employer to start the hiring process all over again? But why? never got a reason for this. First of all if a employee is working with the company and company wants to keep the employee it should be way simplier than LMIA. My employer can still show the old records but NO cic wants to start everything from scratch again, just pisses me off
 

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Your job should meet or exceed the median wage of your province. However, note that it should show that your salary has had that condition in the last 3 month at least. So if your job suddenly goes to the median the month before, they will not approve of it.
 

Judlu

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kryt0n said:
Well this was Jan 2015 so we left Canada (after 2.5 years) and moved to NZ for a year.
Do you mean New Zealand? It's extremely interesting! Could you tell more about that experience? Is it quite simple to get a work permit for New Zeland?

An interesting idea:)
 

Judlu

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Innana said:
Your job should meet or exceed the median wage of your province. However, note that it should show that your salary has had that condition in the last 3 month at least. So if your job suddenly goes to the median the month before, they will not approve of it.
I'm confused again because some folks are speaking about occupation/location median wage ($41 for marketing manager in Ottawa) and others are speaking about province median wage ($21 for Ontario).

So finally:
1) what wage should employer advertise?
2) what wage should I be paid - and point it in LMIA application?

There is a significant gap between $21 and $41....
 

Navprateek

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Judlu said:
I'm confused again because some folks are speaking about occupation/location median wage ($41 for marketing manager in Ottawa) and others are speaking about province median wage ($21 for Ontario).

So finally:
1) what wage should employer advertise?
2) what wage should I be paid - and point it in LMIA application?

There is a significant gap between $21 and $41....
It depends on the postal code you work at. SO it's city's median wage not province. And you should be paid either or more than the median wage of your job title in that specific city
 

Judlu

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Navprateek said:
It depends on the postal code you work at. SO it's city's median wage not province. And you should be paid either or more than the median wage of your job title in that specific city
So am I right that for NOC 0124 (marketing manager) and Ottawa K2E 7L6 according to Job Bank it's going to be $41?

... just noticed that for some reason Job Bank reflects "Marketing manager" under NOC 0611. And it shows nothing for 0124. One more confusion...
 

Navprateek

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Judlu said:
So am I right that for NOC 0124 (marketing manager) and Ottawa K2E 7L6 according to Job Bank it's going to be $41?

... just noticed that for some reason Job Bank reflects "Marketing manager" under NOC 0611. And it shows nothing for 0124. One more confusion...
marketing manager is 0611 and the median wage is $41/h , I am not sure about 0124
Check this :
http://www5.hrsdc.gc.ca/NOC/English/NOC/2011/ProfileQuickSearch.aspx?val1=0124
 

Judlu

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Navprateek said:
marketing manager is 0611 and the median wage is $41/h , I am not sure about 0124
Check this :
Checked the link - it is exactly 0124 NOC code. And when I typed 0611 in searching field the note showed up "The NOC code you have entered is invalid or has changed in 2011."

So it means that a new NOC is 0124 but Job Bank still refers to the old one...
 

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kryt0n said:
Oh hey, I'm all for giving the locals the upper hand. However the town where I lived had a huge foreign work force because they are all service jobs - the jobs Canadians do not want to do.

When the LMIAs for food and beverage were cut the local tim hortons had to shut down because they couldn't find workers!
Source? Having been involved in franchises, I find that a bit of a stretch.
 

kryt0n

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ravdawg said:
Source? Having been involved in franchises, I find that a bit of a stretch.
Source? I lived there for 2 years and my friend was employed there... before she was let go because they couldn't fill the missing jobs...