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Living in Canada as a visitor. Marriage Sponsorship Questions

taffy7

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meatcasey said:
That would actually be just fine for me! Problem is I don't know if they actually will back off, so if you have a source or something that would be appreciated.

Unfortunately there is no guarantees ... You have three options.

1) you leave Canada and try to return and hopefully you get a nice boarder officer and he lets you in and then you re state your status and apply outland.

2) You stay put apply inland /outland and hopefully CIC don't report you

3) you leave Canada and apply for Pr and wait in the US until your PR is granted.


Unfortunately the advice you were given has put you in a pickle
 

meatcasey

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taffy7 said:
Unfortunately there is no guarantees ... You have three options.

1) you leave Canada and try to return and hopefully you get a nice boarder officer and he lets you in and then you re state your status and apply outland.

2) You stay put apply inland /outland and hopefully CIC don't report you

3) you leave Canada and apply for Pr and wait in the US until your PR is granted.


Unfortunately the advice you were given has put you in a pickle
I figured as much. Anyway, I feel like exiting and re-entering might be the best idea. What would US border control do to figure out I've been here too long and report me to CBSA? Because from what I know they don't have immediate access to the date upon which I entered Canada. That's what I need to know.
 

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Do you have an actual passport - or just a passport card? If you don't have an actual passport yet - get that addressed as soon as you can. A passport is mandatory for applying for PR and also for applying for an extension to a visit from within Canada. Passport cards aren't accepted as substitutes.
 

meatcasey

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scylla said:
Do you have an actual passport - or just a passport card? If you don't have an actual passport yet - get that addressed as soon as you can. A passport is mandatory for applying for PR and also for applying for an extension to a visit from within Canada. Passport cards aren't accepted as substitutes.
Yeah, I only have a passport card. I'll get on that when I begin the process.
 

MilesAway

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I believe you need a passport to begin the process. My spouse had to bring her passport when she went for the medical exam.

You will most likely need to provide proof of legal status in Canada in order to apply for a passport at the Embassy.
 

meatcasey

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Okay, gonna shift the topic just a little bit. I've been reading this forum and other immigration resources and I've determined that my best bet is to simply apply for PR as soon as possible, without attempting to first leave and re-enter Canada.

I was reading another thread (can't post links, so the topic title is "Can a person without status in Canada submit an Outland application?") and I'm slightly confused as to which application I should use. Does applying outland carry a bigger risk of being deported than inland? And does applying inland prevent the CBSA from attempting to deport me?

Honestly I'm just way too scared to try to leave and risk being denied re-entry at this point because I have a lot invested into staying here.
 

scylla

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See MilesAway post above. Your issue will be that you need an actual passport (not passport card) to apply for PR and you need to prove you have valid legal status in Canada to apply for a US passport from within Canada.

http://canada.usembassy.gov/passports/acquiring-your-first-passport.html

Since you don't have a passport and don't have status in Canada, I don't see you have any choice but to leave at some point.
 

meatcasey

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scylla said:
See MilesAway post above. Your issue will be that you need an actual passport (not passport card) to apply for PR and you need to prove you have valid legal status in Canada to apply for a US passport from within Canada.

http://canada.usembassy.gov/passports/acquiring-your-first-passport.html

Since you don't have a passport and don't have status in Canada, I don't see you have any choice but to leave at some point.
They can be done online. And I have a relative in the US willing to assist in getting me a US passport otherwise.
 

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meatcasey said:
They can be done online. And I have a relative in the US willing to assist in getting me a US passport otherwise.
Will this be your first passport or a renewal? (Hopefully a renewal.)
 

scylla

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meatcasey said:
Well, my passport card is the first passport I've gotten, so this will be my first passport book.
In that case you have to apply in person and online unfortunately isn't an option:

http://travel.state.gov/content/passports/english/passports/first-time.html
 

Zakmalik

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I think immigration has to process the approval part faster within 60 days if I'm rights and then they back off , my husband is also out of status and I was considering applying Outland but have only seen one successful story of Outland out of status , so have changed my application to inland because from everything I read it's the safer route and you have protection. Hopefully a senior member can give someone input this is what I am under the impression of which is why I am choose inland instead now
 

Zakmalik

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I should add we had an immigration lawyer who was going to do our application he never mentioned any problem with out of status inland, I realized I can do the applications myself without spending a ton load of money so we withdrew our application with him , I'm assuming he wouldn't apply inland for us if it wasn't allowed
 

meatcasey

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scylla said:
In that case you have to apply in person and online unfortunately isn't an option:

http://travel.state.gov/content/passports/english/passports/first-time.html
According to http://travel.state.gov/content/passports/english/passports/apply.html I can simply submit my current passport card with the application, and for an additional fee, receive a book when it is returned. http://i.imgur.com/ggt4ArL.png
 

meatcasey

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Zakmalik said:
I think immigration has to process the approval part faster within 60 days if I'm rights and then they back off , my husband is also out of status and I was considering applying Outland but have only seen one successful story of Outland out of status , so have changed my application to inland because from everything I read it's the safer route and you have protection. Hopefully a senior member can give someone input this is what I am under the impression of which is why I am choose inland instead now
Thanks for the suggestion. I've been talking about it with my partner and we feel like it might be the best route.