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LETTER FROM NEW DELHI VISA OFFICE

sANJUBABA

Star Member
May 9, 2011
132
10
Category........
NOC Code......
4131; COMPUTER INSTRUCTOR
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
AOR Received.
JUNE 2010
hi,

my wife is PA and i was her employer. They asked plenty of questions and out of them 3-4 things mismatched. this was their concern.

actually my wife wasnt present at the centre when they made the call to both of us.

actually the call was very lengthy mine was 36 mins n wife's call was 11 mins.

hope this helps, for more u can contact me at risingstar_San@yahoo.com
 

yashpatel

Star Member
Sep 15, 2011
170
12
Category........
Visa Office......
New Delhi
NOC Code......
2121
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
02-02-2011
AOR Received.
Decision Made
IELTS Request
7 bands (submitted)
File Transfer...
23-03-2011
Med's Request
19-12-2011
Med's Done....
26-12-2011
Interview........
08-12-2011
Passport Req..
19-12-2011
VISA ISSUED...
31-01-2012
LANDED..........
01-05-2012
gautam0597 said:
As some of you may know, I got a verification call on OCT 27 and verified all the work experience in the restaurant I worked. Then, I believe CHC ND called my employer also for verifying the same. During the call, my employer got all mixed up and mentioned all facts & figures randomly, as it occurred to him. So, apparently there were some inconsistencies regarding my work experience and the genuineness of this job.
CHC ND sent me this letter by post:

In support of your application for permanent residence in Canada, you submitted a work experience letter from XXXXXXX dated December 21, 2010 stating that you worked as a Restaurant Supervisor from June 15 2003 to July 31 2005 and a Restaurant Manager from August 1 2005 to July 16 2007. The signatory was the proprietor Mr.XXXXXXX. Phone verifications were made to XXXXXX and to yourself. There were inconsistencies in the information provided by the proprietor and by yourself. In your application and during the phone verification you stated that you worked for XXXXX from June 2003 to July 2007. During the phone verification the proprietor stated that you have been working at the restaurant as a restaurant manager for the last 3 to 4 years and just recently took leave. There were also inconsistencies in information provided concerning the seating capacity and number of staff. These inconsistencies lead me to believe that you did not work at XXXXX as a restaurant manager and that there is collusion.

Before a decision is made in your case, I am providing you with the opportunity to comment on the above concern or provide any observation or explanation in writing. You have thirty(30) days from the date of this letter to reply.

If you choose not to respond with additional information, or if the new information forwarded by you is not satisfactory, a decision will be made based on the information in your file.


I have just drafted a letter to send to CHC ND.

With reference to the letter sent to me dated October 3, I am writing this letter to address the concerns regarding inconsistencies in my case.

Upon learning that there were some discrepancies or I must say errors in furnishing information over the telephone by Mr. XXXXXXXX, I made a visit to the restaurant and at first discovered that there have been a lot of changes since I quit; both in terms of seating capacity and work force.Therefore, I believe that is what led to the inconsistency with regard to SEATING CAPACITY and NUMBER OF STAFF.

Secondly, upon speaking to the proprietor of XXXXXXXX, he told me that during the verification call he could not recall the time period I served for him so he randomly gave some figures, not realizing the importance and accuracy of the facts.

I assure you that there is no collusion and I indeed worked in XXXXXX for the specified period. I sincerely hope that this letter clarifies all doubts regarding the inconsistencies.


Let me know your thoughts and and if there is something in addition to this letter I should provide to clear the visa officer's doubts. Also, what are the chances of Interview/MR/Rejection
Dear Gautam,

Don't worry. Just have faith in god. Do your best.

My time line is also similar to you. I am also a February 2011 applicant and waiting for MR.

If you don't mind I want to ask you one question. Have you submitted your FORM NO. 16 with your initial application or you have submitted them after VO's request ?
Have you submitted them before the Verification call to you and your employer ?

Because one specific letter from NDVO came to me asking for FORM NO. 16s. I have submitted them. As we all know that these forms can be issued by our employers and our salary and the duration of our experience are written in these.

Our Employer name, Company name, salary, experience year by year are mentioned in this form.

So, I want to ask was it kind of a VERIFICATION regarding my job in my case ????? ??? ???

Please, give some information.

Yash
 

Your Highness

Champion Member
Sep 25, 2011
2,379
149
Category........
Visa Office......
New Delhi
NOC Code......
0631
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
15th Sep 2011
AOR Received.
PER rcvd on 14th Dec 2011
IELTS Request
Submitted with Docs
File Transfer...
AOR from NDVO rcvd on 21 Jan 2012
Med's Request
7th Feb 2012
Med's Done....
Med sent on 24th Feb 2012
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
Req rcvd on 7th Feb sent on 24th Feb 2012. RPRF DD encashed on 11th April
VISA ISSUED...
DM on 10th May. PPs rcvd with Visa on 14th May 2012
LANDED..........
Landed in Toronto on 3rd July 2012!
yashpatel said:
Dear Gautam,

Don't worry. Just have faith in god. Do your best.

My time line is also similar to you. I am also a February 2011 applicant and waiting for MR.

If you don't mind I want to ask you one question. Have you submitted your FORM NO. 16 with your initial application or you have submitted them after VO's request ?
Have you submitted them before the Verification call to you and your employer ?

Because one specific letter from NDVO came to me asking for FORM NO. 16s. I have submitted them. As we all know that these forms can be issued by our employers and our salary and the duration of our experience are written in these.

Our Employer name, Company name, salary, experience year by year are mentioned in this form.

So, I want to ask was it kind of a VERIFICATION regarding my job in my case ????? ??? ???

Please, give some information.

Yash
Yes Yash. Looks to me like they are trying to verify your job. Just keep everything on order and also tell your employer that s/he might rcv a call. Be in sync on all details to avoid mismatch.

Good luck
 

ganeshterala

Star Member
Jun 22, 2011
194
5
Hyderabad
Category........
Visa Office......
New Delhi
NOC Code......
7242
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
20th May'11
VISA ISSUED...
Decision Made, 22nd Dec'2011
LANDED..........
4th Apr'2012.
gautam0597 said:
I totally agree with you. Although I do not have photographs, I can send some business communication, letters from suppliers etc. I am in Retail business.
Hi Gautam,

I have one doubt here, While sending your docs to CIC.

Didn't you submit Offer letter, Relieving letter, Roles and responsibilities(Attaching business cards of your colleagues), Latest Payslips, Form 16 etc. So that they never get any doubt regarding genuinity of your experience.

Ganesh
 

gautam0597

Star Member
Feb 16, 2010
131
4
Mumbai, India
Category........
Visa Office......
New Delhi
NOC Code......
0631
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
22-02-2011
Doc's Request.
All Docs except PCC sent along with Initial Application
AOR Received.
31-03-2011
IELTS Request
Sent with Initial Application
File Transfer...
04-04-2011
yashpatel said:
Dear Gautam,

Don't worry. Just have faith in god. Do your best.

My time line is also similar to you. I am also a February 2011 applicant and waiting for MR.

If you don't mind I want to ask you one question. Have you submitted your FORM NO. 16 with your initial application or you have submitted them after VO's request ?
Have you submitted them before the Verification call to you and your employer ?

Because one specific letter from NDVO came to me asking for FORM NO. 16s. I have submitted them. As we all know that these forms can be issued by our employers and our salary and the duration of our experience are written in these.

Our Employer name, Company name, salary, experience year by year are mentioned in this form.

So, I want to ask was it kind of a VERIFICATION regarding my job in my case ????? ??? ???

Please, give some information.

Yash
Hi Yash,

The job role for which I claimed points was performed from 2003-07. So I no longer work there. I have submitted my tax returns for the last couple of years. FORM 16 does not apply in my case as am currently a business owner.

As far as Form-16 request goes, u can't always be sure if it is VERIFICATION. Every VO has some parameters for that particular country's applicants. It could so be that it is a MUST for ND VO to prove the authenticity of the job.
 

gautam0597

Star Member
Feb 16, 2010
131
4
Mumbai, India
Category........
Visa Office......
New Delhi
NOC Code......
0631
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
22-02-2011
Doc's Request.
All Docs except PCC sent along with Initial Application
AOR Received.
31-03-2011
IELTS Request
Sent with Initial Application
File Transfer...
04-04-2011
ganeshterala said:
Hi Gautam,

I have one doubt here, While sending your docs to CIC.

Didn't you submit Offer letter, Relieving letter, Roles and responsibilities(Attaching business cards of your colleagues), Latest Payslips, Form 16 etc. So that they never get any doubt regarding genuinity of your experience.

Ganesh
Hi Ganesh,

I had submitted them all.. But u never know. They have all the rights to call to verify, I guess.
 

Your Highness

Champion Member
Sep 25, 2011
2,379
149
Category........
Visa Office......
New Delhi
NOC Code......
0631
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
15th Sep 2011
AOR Received.
PER rcvd on 14th Dec 2011
IELTS Request
Submitted with Docs
File Transfer...
AOR from NDVO rcvd on 21 Jan 2012
Med's Request
7th Feb 2012
Med's Done....
Med sent on 24th Feb 2012
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
Req rcvd on 7th Feb sent on 24th Feb 2012. RPRF DD encashed on 11th April
VISA ISSUED...
DM on 10th May. PPs rcvd with Visa on 14th May 2012
LANDED..........
Landed in Toronto on 3rd July 2012!
jnathan said:
only these conditions require a notification

1. wedding, divorce
2. new born baby
3. change of postal address.
4. withdrawal of application
Hello JNathan,

If a person moves to a new address where does one send the updated address to? And the person in question does not have a file number still. His application has reached CIC only in the first week of Oct 2011. Pls advice.

Thanks
 

jnathan

VIP Member
Feb 3, 2009
4,513
142
Category........
Visa Office......
Sheng Chiu
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
21st Jan 2010
Doc's Request.
10th March 2010
AOR Received.
10th June 2010
IELTS Request
provided
File Transfer...
IN PROCESS: 12th October, 2010
Med's Request
Withdrawal Request sent....Was waiting for files to return....instead of returning the files, VO sent the MR !!
Med's Done....
28 May 2012
Passport Req..
24 July 2012
Your Highness,

if your file has not yet been transferred to the local visa office, send your updated mailing address to the CIO's address that you used when you sent your application.
 

kan2008

Hero Member
Feb 26, 2008
320
7
Category........
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
4152
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
March, 2011
AOR Received.
July 14, 2011
File Transfer...
August 14, 2011
Med's Request
March, 08, 2013, Received April 08, 2013
Med's Done....
March 26, 2013
Interview........
Feb 04, 2013
Passport Req..
PPR1: September 02, 2013, PPR2: October 30, 2013
VISA ISSUED...
12-November, 2013
VO are "lakeer kay fakeer". How can they expect 100% exact infomation from an employer regarding an employee in a random-sudden-phone-call?
 

jnathan

VIP Member
Feb 3, 2009
4,513
142
Category........
Visa Office......
Sheng Chiu
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
21st Jan 2010
Doc's Request.
10th March 2010
AOR Received.
10th June 2010
IELTS Request
provided
File Transfer...
IN PROCESS: 12th October, 2010
Med's Request
Withdrawal Request sent....Was waiting for files to return....instead of returning the files, VO sent the MR !!
Med's Done....
28 May 2012
Passport Req..
24 July 2012
kan2008,

they do. they think giving info about an employee is the only thing an employer has to do in his office.
Still I guess they allow a few minutes to pull the records about an employee for giving its info to the VO. VO's believe that applicants have working experiences in offices where they have readily available employee database which can be checked in a few clicks. pretty tricky though.
 

Moonshinemist

Full Member
Aug 14, 2011
43
3
My consultant told me the VO usually asks if they shld call back while the employer gathers records info abt the employees. As such calls are not quite so common the employer may seem to b in a fix and might not answer correctly. Cant blame the VO. U never know wht the emloyer wld hve said. he might hve totally confused the VO. So dont worry.. gather your things..
1. Write a detailed expereince letter.
2. Keep copy of daily attendance record. this will help in seeing the number of employees at tht time.
3. If possible gather letters frm ex collegues or busienss associates.
4. If possible ask the employer to enclose an exlanatory letter.
Mayb u can draft one and ask the employer to sign.
Good luck
Moonshinemist.
 

dips

Newbie
Nov 1, 2011
4
0
hello gautam,

I got same letter from VO dated on oct 24. my employer gave them wrong answer n they are ready to provide another documents. pls reply me what reply u gave them n what documents u have submitted.

thanks
 

gautam0597

Star Member
Feb 16, 2010
131
4
Mumbai, India
Category........
Visa Office......
New Delhi
NOC Code......
0631
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
22-02-2011
Doc's Request.
All Docs except PCC sent along with Initial Application
AOR Received.
31-03-2011
IELTS Request
Sent with Initial Application
File Transfer...
04-04-2011
dips said:
hello gautam,

I got same letter from VO dated on oct 24. my employer gave them wrong answer n they are ready to provide another documents. pls reply me what reply u gave them n what documents u have submitted.

thanks
I gave an explanation letter along with a letter from my employer confirming that I worked for him and that there was lack of information during the verification call.

BTW, which is your visa office.
 

vanilathil

Hero Member
Oct 17, 2011
207
5
Category........
Visa Office......
ND
NOC Code......
0631
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
16 Aug 2011
Doc's Request.
Attested copies sent along with application
AOR Received.
9 NOV 2011 II AOR -13 Dec
IELTS Request
submitted
File Transfer...
13 dec 2011
Med's Request
09 feb 2012
Med's Done....
18 feb2012
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
09 feb 2012 -delivered on 9 Mar-DD encashed on 11 april
VISA ISSUED...
13 Jun 2012
LANDED..........
9 Jul 2012- Winnipeg Manitoba
Hi gutam ,

any updates ...


my hus is also a restaurant mgr....appli revd on 16 aug ....
 

gautam0597

Star Member
Feb 16, 2010
131
4
Mumbai, India
Category........
Visa Office......
New Delhi
NOC Code......
0631
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
22-02-2011
Doc's Request.
All Docs except PCC sent along with Initial Application
AOR Received.
31-03-2011
IELTS Request
Sent with Initial Application
File Transfer...
04-04-2011
vanilathil said:
Hi gutam ,

any updates ...


my hus is also a restaurant mgr....appli revd on 16 aug ....
Hi.

No updates as of now. I am expecting the next correspondence to come through soon. Will update.