Least CRS score you can get;yet hit the magical number 67

[carl321]

So the 3rd draw cutoff was 808

Meaning that the min score was 808-600=208

How do you score 208, also satisfying the 67/100 points ?

in order to get 67 you must have a Bsc with good experience and avg language score?

Example: max work experience points you can get are 15 | age min you can get max 30 | ielts all 6? = 24 points TOTAL is over 67 (69)

If we use the same info with/without spouse that person can easily get over 220CRS points.. right?

I just can't simulate a scenario where you can get 208 and qualify the 67 point mark : even for CEC?

Am I looking at it in a wrong way?

 

[bj291]

So the 3rd draw cutoff was 808

Meaning that the min score was 808-600=208

How do you score 208, also satisfying the 67/100 points ?

in order to get 67 you must have a Bsc with good experience and avg language score?

Example: max work experience points you can get are 15 | age min you can get max 30 | ielts all 6? = 24 points TOTAL is over 67 (69)

If we use the same info with/without spouse that person can easily get over 220CRS points.. right?

I just can't simulate a scenario where you can get 208 and qualify the 67 point mark : even for CEC?

Am I looking at it in a wrong way?

The last draw was a CEC specific draw...so you need to remember that there is no qualifying number for CEC program....in fact you don't even need to evaluate your foreign degree.....the 67 point mark is just for the FSW program and not for CEC..if you want to know more eligibility criteria you can check out at the CIC site below:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/cec/apply-who.asp

 

[fl_pie]

So the 3rd draw cutoff was 808

Meaning that the min score was 808-600=208

How do you score 208, also satisfying the 67/100 points ?

in order to get 67 you must have a Bsc with good experience and avg language score?

Example: max work experience points you can get are 15 | age min you can get max 30 | ielts all 6? = 24 points TOTAL is over 67 (69)

If we use the same info with/without spouse that person can easily get over 220CRS points.. right?

I just can't simulate a scenario where you can get 208 and qualify the 67 point mark : even for CEC?

Am I looking at it in a wrong way?

If you're qualified under CEC or FST, you can easily score <800, since you don't have to get those 67 FSW points. If you're only qualified under FSW and have an LMIA, it's hard to calculate the lowest possible score, because there are many variables - different combinations of factors can all give 67 FSW points, but they would correspond to different CRS scores. The lowest I could get with some quick estimation is 800:
- high school diploma only (+5 FSW, +30 CRS);
- LMIA-backed job offer (+15 FSW, +600 CRS) (note that a job offer does a lot to FSW score, so the minimum possible score with and without a job offer would be quite different, even if we don't count the +600 points; a candidate without a job offer would have to be compensate the loss of those 15 FSW points somehow, which would increase his CRS score, too);
- 6 years of foreign work experience (+15 FSW, +25 CRS);
- age 35 (+12 FSW, +77 CRS);
- language test: CLB 7 (+16 FSW, +68 CRS);
- let's assume a relative in Canada (+5 FSW, 0 CRS) as a way to get the lowest possible CRS score.
Total: 68 FSW, 600 + 200 = 800 CRS. That's assuming no spouse; since maximum spouse score is +40, I guess that would correspond to 760 points for someone with a spouse who didn't do IELTS/ECA/has no Canadian experience.

I don't see much sense trying to calculate the lowest possible score for people qualified under FSW without a LMIA.

 

[carl321]

If you're qualified under CEC or FST, you can easily score <800, since you don't have to get those 67 FSW points. If you're only qualified under FSW and have an LMIA, it's hard to calculate the lowest possible score, because there are many variables - different combinations of factors can all give 67 FSW points, but they would correspond to different CRS scores. The lowest I could get with some quick estimation is 800:
- high school diploma only (+5 FSW, +30 CRS);
- LMIA-backed job offer (+15 FSW, +600 CRS) (note that a job offer does a lot to FSW score, so the minimum possible score with and without a job offer would be quite different, even if we don't count the +600 points; a candidate without a job offer would have to be compensate the loss of those 15 FSW points somehow, which would increase his CRS score, too);
- 6 years of foreign work experience (+15 FSW, +25 CRS);
- age 35 (+12 FSW, +77 CRS);
- language test: CLB 7 (+16 FSW, +68 CRS);
- let's assume a relative in Canada (+5 FSW, 0 CRS) as a way to get the lowest possible CRS score.
Total: 68 FSW, 600 + 200 = 800 CRS. That's assuming no spouse; since maximum spouse score is +40, I guess that would correspond to 760 points for someone with a spouse who didn't do IELTS/ECA/has no Canadian experience.

I don't see much sense trying to calculate the lowest possible score for people qualified under FSW without a LMIA.

Thank you fr the reply...

I guess I'm trying to look at a positive aspect :

Assuming that CIC really wants to give the CEC some preference they decided to dedicate the 3rd draw to them...
Good news here is that (assuming everyone above 808 in CEC were invited) there are no more applicants in the CEC with 808 or higher points?
Meaning the next draw will be targeted towards 3 criteria?

1. FSW (only) : with a cut off point less than 808 [ which might not be a whole batch of people] - as the min with a job offer is 800? (technically ppl with 750-807)
2. FSW (CEC and rest) : then I see a chance for the people without job offers here; since the CEC had a low cut off on the 3rd draw... right ?
3. CEC only : Would they dedicate another draw for CEC ? if so they will be accepted with very low CRS scores?

Im just being a hopeful applicant here.. but does this make any sense to you guys? Option 2 I would say has the highest probability

If so; what would the cut off be? 450+ (FSW without job offer?) <-- honestly this could be the largest group in EE
Also 450+ will also capture a lot of CEC applicants too.

Golden question would be : Can CIC handle so many applicants at once? given theres a huge backlog ?

 

[fl_pie]

Thank you fr the reply...

I guess I'm trying to look at a positive aspect :

Assuming that CIC really wants to give the CEC some preference they decided to dedicate the 3rd draw to them...
Good news here is that (assuming everyone above 808 in CEC were invited) there are no more applicants in the CEC with 808 or higher points?
Meaning the next draw will be targeted towards 3 criteria?

1. FSW (only) : with a cut off point less than 808 [ which might not be a whole batch of people] - as the min with a job offer is 800? (technically ppl with 750-807)
2. FSW (CEC and rest) : then I see a chance for the people without job offers here; since the CEC had a low cut off on the 3rd draw... right ?
3. CEC only : Would they dedicate another draw for CEC ? if so they will be accepted with very low CRS scores?

Im just being a hopeful applicant here.. but does this make any sense to you guys? Option 2 I would say has the highest probability

If so; what would the cut off be? 450+ (FSW without job offer?) <-- honestly this could be the largest group in EE
Also 450+ will also capture a lot of CEC applicants too.

Golden question would be : Can CIC handle so many applicants at once? given theres a huge backlog ?

That's all just speculation, CIC has proven itself unpredictable time and again. But anyway, if we were to speculate: there were quite a few people on the forum who had their ITAs cancelled because those ITAs were mistakenly issued under the FSW stream, and those people are qualified under CEC, but not FSW - the third draw happened immediately afterwards, and these people got new ITAs, this time under the correct CEC stream. Given that, I would assume that a large portion of the third draw was just reissuing ITAs to the same applicants, in other words, it's more of a technicality than a real draw (but to be clear, that's all just guesswork). From this, I don't think CIC would prioritize CEC again in the foreseeable future. I think most people here are expecting/hoping that scores will go down below the 600 mark soon. I personally believe this; I think that CIC will soon invite everyone with a job offer, and new people with job offers will be rare, so the score will drop, maybe in a couple of months. Also, I think CIC will increase the size of ITAs issued in subsequent draws, otherwise it would be just too few people to fill their immigration plans (and they are going to have immigration plans for 2016, too, so some EE applicants would count towards those). As for CIC's speedy handling - I don't really believe it. I think their processing speed will gradually slow down and climb above the promised 6 months - would be happy to be mistaken on this, though.

 

[SHADI 77]

Hi guys
Any one can help me to assess my points to know how much they equal in the CRS


1st Official Language 24 16

2nd Official Language 4 0

Age 12 12

Education 25 23

Work Experience 15 11

Job Offer 10 0

Adaptability 10 5

TOTAL 100 67