Langauge Requirement for Citizenship (House Wife)

[Concordia]

Hello,

One of my friends wife came to canada on spouse immigration.
Now she is eligible for citizenship. She just did Inter from Pakistan. She didn't appear in IELTS ever.
But she took bunch of language courses from different langauge school. She does not want to write IELTS.

What she has to do to show language proof.?

Thanks in Advance!!!

 

[ar2009]

I would recommend taking CELPIP General-LS - a two-skills (listening and speaking), this is an easier test and fulfill the requirement of citizenship. They can buy the reading material from celpiptest.ca

We bought the reading material from this website and register for the test. This test is designed by CIC. Not all languge courses are acceptable by CIC, please read more info from cic website

Hope this will help, all the best

 

[boasorte]

Unfortunately she has no choice but to take one of the tests accepted by CIC.
CELPIP General-LS is indeed a very easy test. It's designed for people with very minimal proficiency in English. So it allows just about anyone to pass it.

The only issue with this test is the cost. If I were to spend that kind of money, I'd much rather make the effort and study for a test like IELSTS as it is more widely recognized/accepted.

Best of luck to her!

 

[informatics]

Unfortunately she has no choice but to take one of the tests accepted by CIC.
CELPIP General-LS is indeed a very easy test. It's designed for people with very minimal proficiency in English. So it allows just about anyone to pass it.

The only issue with this test is the cost. If I were to spend that kind of money, I'd much rather make the effort and study for a test like IELSTS as it is more widely recognized/accepted.

Best of luck to her!

How about taking some free LINC classes as she will just need to have completed LINC 4 level in order to apply for citizenship.

 

[boasorte]

How about taking some free LINC classes as she will just need to have completed LINC 4 level in order to apply for citizenship.

If they are able to provide them with the certificate, she should be fine.

Take a look: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/CIT0002ETOC.asp

I must warn, however, that I have heard of cases being returned stating that LINC Program(which is not a test) is not enough to support proof of language.

Quite confusing..
I don't see LINC being listed on this list: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?q=572&t=5

 

[Leon]

Quite confusing..
I don't see LINC being listed on this list: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?q=572&t=5

Right. Because the question is "What third-party tests will CIC accept ..?"

In the application guide for citizenship, you can see LINC being mentioned:

3.Proof of achieving Canadian Language Benchmark/Niveau de competence linguistique canadien (CLB/NCLC) level 4 or higher in speaking and listening skills through certain government-funded language training programs are:

•For Manitoba: Progress report from Manitoba government issued since January 2009. Ensure your report indicates speaking and listening skills are at least at “completing CLB/NCLC level 4” or higher.

•For Quebec: Bulletin by the Ministère de l’immigration et Communautés culturelles Québec (MICC) issued since June 2001. Ensure that your most recent assessment in “ interaction orale” is at least level 4 (Échelle québécoise)

•For British Columbia (BC): ◦If you received British Columbia’s English Language Services for Adults (ELSA) training in 2008 and 2009, an ELSA certificate confirming language level CLB 4 or higher.
◦If you received British Columbia’s English Language Services for Adults (ELSA) training since 2010, an ELSA report card or an ELSA certificate confirming language level CLB 4 or higher

•Language Instruction for Newcomers to Canada (LINC): Check the box if you successfully completed the course at CLB4 or higher from January 2008 to October 31, 2012 and provide a copy of the certificate if available. If you successfully completed the LINC/CLIC course since November 1st, 2012, a certificate will be provided to you. A copy of this certificate is required. Note that completion of LINC/CLIC before 2008 does not qualify for proof of language ability.

 

[eileenf]

I must warn, however, that I have heard of cases being returned stating that LINC Program(which is not a test) is not enough to support proof of language.

Quite confusing..

Certificates showing completion of level 4 or higher LINC classes are accepted. What is NOT accepted are LINC assessments showing that the applicant already has a level 4 or higher. LINC is not a certified tester/assessor of language skill.

 

[Leon]

The only issue with this test is the cost. If I were to spend that kind of money, I'd much rather make the effort and study for a test like IELSTS as it is more widely recognized/accepted.

However, CELPIP LS is only half the cost of IELTS ($150 vs. $300) so if there is no reason for her to need to prove her English skills, she can save herself $150 by taking CELPIP LS.

 

[boasorte]

However, CELPIP LS is only half the cost of IELTS ($150 vs. $300) so if there is no reason for her to need to prove her English skills, she can save herself $150 by taking CELPIP LS.

Thank you for your AMAZING input, Leon.

As I said, the mentioned test is designed for people with very low language skill, so the price is fitting.

 

[Alurra71]

This has nothing to do with the OP's question, however, I do have a question that falls into the same category.

I was born/raised in the US. English is obviously my first language. What kind of documentation is going to be required of me when it comes time for me to file for my citizenship? I can only assume that I would not need to take any of these tests, but I don't know for sure.

Anyone have an answer for that?

 

[Leon]

This has nothing to do with the OP's question, however, I do have a question that falls into the same category.

I was born/raised in the US. English is obviously my first language. What kind of documentation is going to be required of me when it comes time for me to file for my citizenship? I can only assume that I would not need to take any of these tests, but I don't know for sure.

Anyone have an answer for that?

Above I posted a link and section 3 of the acceptable language proof. Here are the two other sections:

Language Proof if you are 18-54 years of age

Select one of the following types of proof to submit with your application:

1. Results of a CIC-approved third-party test at Canadian Language Benchmark (CLB/NCLC) level 4 or higher in speaking and listening skills done previously for immigration purposes (even expired) or done specifically for citizenship purposes, from the following list are acceptable only:

* Canadian English Language Proficiency Index Program General test (CELPIP-G), (not the academic version) or
* CELPIP-General LS – a two-skills (listening and speaking) version of the CELPIP general test or
* International English Language Testing System (IELTS), general training, not the academic version or
* Test d’Évaluation de Français (TEF) or Test d’Évaluation du Français adapté au Québec (TEFAQ) or TEF épreuves orales

The following list of proof will be accepted only if used for Quebec immigration purposes in the past:

* DALF (Diplôme approfondi de langue française) or
* DELF (Diplôme d’études en langue française) or
* TCF (Test de connaissance du français) or
* TCFQ (Test de connaissance du français pour le Québec)

2. Proof of completion of secondary or post-secondary education in French or English includes:

* A diploma or transcripts from a secondary or post-secondary school indicating the successful completion of a program, in Canada or abroad. or
* A diploma or certificate from a secondary or post-secondary school indicating successful graduation, in Canada or abroad.

Note: A single course done in English or French does not meet the requirement.

As you see, if you fall under 2., that is you have a diploma from a secondary school in the US, you can use that. If you don't, you would have to take one of the tests

Native English speakers sometimes don't believe it but if you were getting your PR under something other than family class, you would be required to take a test for that. Some years ago, immigration allowed people to pretty much self-declare their English skills for PR and their applicants wrote glowing letters about how good their English was including letters from their teacher and boss and what not and then the person may have been requested to attend an interview and it turned out that some of them couldn't speak English. Immigration eventually got ticked off and decided that everybody should take a test, no exceptions.

 

[Alurra71]

Above I posted a link and section 3 of the acceptable language proof. Here are the two other sections:

As you see, if you fall under 2., that is you have a diploma from a secondary school in the US, you can use that. If you don't, you would have to take one of the tests

Native English speakers sometimes don't believe it but if you were getting your PR under something other than family class, you would be required to take a test for that. Some years ago, immigration allowed people to pretty much self-declare their English skills for PR and their applicants wrote glowing letters about how good their English was including letters from their teacher and boss and what not and then the person may have been requested to attend an interview and it turned out that some of them couldn't speak English. Immigration eventually got ticked off and decided that everybody should take a test, no exceptions.

I do indeed have a HS diploma so I guess that is what I would include. Thank you, Leon