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LANDING IN CANADA ??? -All You Need To Know.

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Achievement said:
Hi,

Just my opinion, We need have to have PR card for second entry. Please excuse if i am wrong).

Can we re-enter via US border with COPR.

Thanks for your reply
You can enter even with passport and COPR ... if you can make to immigration desk in Canada. The catch is, no commercial carrier is going to let you board their vehicle without PR card.

You can enter Canada via US ... with your passport and COPR ... IF YOU COME VIA PRIVATE VEHICLE OR BY FOOT

Source : I need to leave Canada and I do not have a permanent resident card. Can I later return to Canada without a PR card?
 

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XpressEnterprise said:
You can enter even with passport and COPR ... if you can make to immigration desk in Canada. The catch is, no commercial carrier is going to let you board their vehicle without PR card.

You can enter Canada via US ... with your passport and COPR ... IF YOU COME VIA PRIVATE VEHICLE OR BY FOOT

Source : I need to leave Canada and I do not have a permanent resident card. Can I later return to Canada without a PR card?
Ohh. that's good. Mean to say, we can travel using Private vehicle. Am i right?

I have valid US B1 visa. So i can come to US and travel via Private Vehicle.
 

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XpressEnterprise said:
You can enter even with passport and COPR ... if you can make to immigration desk in Canada. The catch is, no commercial carrier is going to let you board their vehicle without PR card.

You can enter Canada via US ... with your passport and COPR ... IF YOU COME VIA PRIVATE VEHICLE OR BY FOOT

Source : I need to leave Canada and I do not have a permanent resident card. Can I later return to Canada without a PR card?
I guess you are misinterpreting whats mentioned in that link.

COPR is not the PRTD that is mentioned over there. COPR is to be used only for first time landing.

Regards
 

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nskatcv said:
I guess you are misinterpreting whats mentioned in that link.

COPR is not the PRTD that is mentioned over there. COPR is to be used only for first time landing.

Regards
I do NOT see any misrepresentation. My response was in regards to Achievement's query regarding re-entry along with valid US visa.

I've never said PRTD and COPR are same document. PRTD is accepted as valid travel document by commercial carriers, not COPR. COPR is valid only INSIDE canada.

Infact, your statement is a misrepresentation. COPR can be used multiple times to prove your PR status, even if you do not have PR card, but you must use PRIVATE vehicle (or travel by foot) when crossing border. This link may help you in understanding your misunderstanding : Re: Entry to Canada from USA without PR card , only CORP. If you don't have a valid US visa (or visa-exempted) and you have no choice but to use a commercial carrier, you MUST apply for PRTD from nearest embassy.

Following are more references for your understanding:
Travel by private vehicle US-Canada after landing with COPR and before PR card

Travel to US without PR card but have a COPR and valid WORK PERMIT.

Re-entry to canada without PR card
 

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XpressEnterprise said:
I do NOT see any misrepresentation. My response was in regards to Achievement's query regarding re-entry along with valid US visa.

I've never said PRTD and COPR are same document. PRTD is accepted as valid travel document by commercial carriers, not COPR. COPR is valid only INSIDE canada.

Infact, your statement is a misrepresentation. COPR can be used multiple times to prove your PR status, even if you do not have PR card, but you must use PRIVATE vehicle (or travel by foot) when crossing border. This link may help you in understanding your misunderstanding : Re: Entry to Canada from USA without PR card , only CORP. If you don't have a valid US visa (or visa-exempted) and you have no choice but to use a commercial carrier, you MUST apply for PRTD from nearest embassy.

Following are more references for your understanding:
Travel by private vehicle US-Canada after landing with COPR and before PR card

Travel to US without PR card but have a COPR and valid WORK PERMIT.

Re-entry to canada without PR card
But all that will work in Achievement's favor only if he was a US citizen or having a passport from other visa-exempt country. He needs a Canadian visa to enter Canada, so having a US visa does not help his case. From his visa office (ADVO-Abu Dhabi), it seems he isn't from a visa-exempt country and therefore may not use his COPR for re-entry. I will be happy to know if he can, because then I will also be able to do that. The visa officer explicitly told me during landing that if you leave Canada, you need to get a new VISA to re-enter (until I get my PR cards of course).

The links you posted are of people with passports from visa-exempt countries. (US and UK)

Regards
 

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nskatcv said:
But all that will work in Achievement's favor only if he was a US citizen or having a passport from other visa-exempt country. He needs a Canadian visa to enter Canada, so having a US visa does not help his case. From his visa office (ADVO-Abu Dhabi), it seems he isn't from a visa-exempt country and therefore may not use his COPR for re-entry. I will be happy to know if he can, because then I will also be able to do that. The visa officer explicitly told me during landing that if you leave Canada, you need to get a new VISA to re-enter (until I get my PR cards of course).

The links you posted are of people with passports from visa-exempt countries. (US and UK)

Regards
Wrong!

Even if you have a valid US visa and even if you are not from a visa-exempted country, you can still land in US (using your US visa) and then cross canadian border using PRIVATE vehicle or by foot.

For example, a Pakistani or an Indian national (which are not visa-exempt countries), with a valid US visa, can land in US. Afterwards, he/she can use a private car (rental car or friend's car) or his/her very own feet, to cross border, by using COPR.

The trick is 'boarding' in a commercial vehicle. Commercial carriers get fined for bringing passengers without proper documents. That's why the only document they accept is PR card. However, immigration officials accept various types of documents to validate your PR status.

The links I've posted are only a few and generic. You can always search for more specific information. My response was specifically for Achievement and I even quoted him in my reply.
 

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XpressEnterprise said:
Wrong!

Even if you have a valid US visa and even if you are not from a visa-exempted country, you can still land in US (using your US visa) and then cross canadian border using PRIVATE vehicle or by foot.

For example, a Pakistani or an Indian national (which are not visa-exempt countries), with a valid US visa, can land in US. Afterwards, he/she can use a private car (rental car or friend's car) or his/her very own feet, to cross border, by using COPR.

The trick is 'boarding' in a commercial vehicle. Commercial carriers get fined for bringing passengers without proper documents. That's why the only document they accept is PR card. However, immigration officials accept various types of documents to validate your PR status.

The links I've posted are only a few and generic. You can always search for more specific information. My response was specifically for Achievement and I even quoted him in my reply.
Assuming that you are talking about re-entry using COPR (and not first time entry because that of course has to be done using COPR), I wonder why the Canadian border officers told me that I would need a visa to re-enter if I leave Canada soon after landing. I still haven't received my PR card and am still under the impression that I can not re-enter Canada using just the COPR. I must wait for the PR card or get a PRTD/VISA etc.

If what you are hinting at is true. then I can travel in a private car and start working there already?

Regards
 

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nskatcv said:
Assuming that you are talking about re-entry using COPR (and not first time entry because that of course has to be done using COPR), I wonder why the Canadian border officers told me that I would need a visa to re-enter if I leave Canada soon after landing. I still haven't received my PR card and am still under the impression that I can not re-enter Canada using just the COPR. I must wait for the PR card or get a PRTD/VISA etc.

Regards
I'm talking about re-entry using COPR

COPR is not valid without stamp and signature of CBSA officer (that's done upon landing)

I cannot tell why officer told you that, but if you are going to return via commercial carrier (which most of us do) and you don't have PR card, you must apply for PRTD (source). It's basically a single-entry visa.

You can always leave Canada without PR card. There is no law which states you cannot. But, upon return, you must have PR card to show at the time of boarding flight. Otherwise, you need to show PRTD.

If you're travelling on private jet/boat/car/foot, COPR (signed and stamped) is enough.
 

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XpressEnterprise said:
I'm talking about re-entry using COPR

COPR is not valid without stamp and signature of CBSA officer (that's done upon landing)

I cannot tell why officer told you that, but if you are going to return via commercial carrier (which most of us do) and you don't have PR card, you must apply for PRTD (source). It's basically a single-entry visa.

You can always leave Canada without PR card. There is no law which states you cannot. But, upon return, you must have PR card to show at the time of boarding flight. Otherwise, you need to show PRTD.

If you're travelling on private jet/boat/car/foot, COPR (signed and stamped) is enough.
I see what you are saying.

I did my landing by road and (if what you say stands true) I can go back again with my signed COPR. I was not doing it all this time because the border officer told me otherwise. Whom am I going to believe now (lol). More importantly how to confirm? I guess I must contact the call center.

Regards
 

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nskatcv said:
I see what you are saying.

I did my landing by road and (if what you say stands true) I can go back again with my signed COPR. I was not doing it all this time because the border officer told me otherwise. Whom am I going to believe now (lol). More importantly how to confirm? I guess I must contact the call center.

Regards
Write down an email instead of calling them. That way, you can keep print-out/copy as proof
 

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XpressEnterprise said:
Write down an email instead of calling them. That way, you can keep print-out/copy as proof
That's better. Only that they take too long to respond.

Anyhow, this is going to be a big waste of time if I find out for sure that I indeed could have moved to Canada all this time.

Thanks & Regards
 

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Hello forum members,

Can any one guide me regarding filling the Customs Declaration Form http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publications/forms-formulaires/e311-eng.pdf

I don't have goods to follow so is the following all i need for first landing??

1. B4 form (for goods accompanying)
2. Excel sheet of each and every item that i'm bringing along with its category and CAD value
3. Form E677 http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publications/forms-formulaires/e677-eng.html

Also do i need to fill Form B4, Personal Effects Accounting as well..

Appreciate ur replies and suggestions..

Thanks
 

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Hi Experts,

I am a PNP from Manitoba(stayed 1.5 years) and moved to Ontario after i applied for PR(September 23).As i have a closed work permit and my movement was company decision.
I am also received the reminder email from CIC with the IRPR fee payment notification and all. following are my queries if someone can please help.

1. Should i update schedule A now with my Ontario address as previously it was my Winnipeg address.
2.Can i land in Ontario.


Please help i am in a dilemma now what to do .
 

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XpressEnterprise said:
No, they won't ask.

PR card is only required by commercial carriers. If you have your own private jet, you don't need PR card. You can land with COPR

May i ask, can i leave canada before getting my PR, THEN my relatives will send it to me by aramex and i will re-enter canada by Plane using it?