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Landed four months ago - Experience so far

greengoo5

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March would be the better time. You're going to get chewed apart by the cold in January. Everything is clad in white. The roads are a mess. The sidewalks are a mess. When it gets windy, you better be inside.

March is much more bearable.
 

Dave2017

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Mar 1, 2017
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March would be the better time. You're going to get chewed apart by the cold in January. Everything is clad in white. The roads are a mess. The sidewalks are a mess. When it gets windy, you better be inside.

March is much more bearable.
Thanks for replying. And how about job opportunities? Someone told me that the job market opens in Jan and by March it gets stagnant.
 

greengoo5

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Thanks for replying. And how about job opportunities? Someone told me that the job market opens in Jan and by March it gets stagnant.
It opens in Jan. Doesn't really get stagnant in March. Companies hire throughout the year. It's just that the hiring gets really slow during December due to the vacations and year ends. So it picks up pace in January and sort of opens up.
 

shreme77

Newbie
Sep 12, 2016
5
3
Hello greengoo5,

Thank you very much for sharing your experiences and providing wonderful insights into life in Toronto and Canada for new immigrants. I wish you all the very best for the future!

I received my COPR last week and am in my late thirties. I am from India and have B.E. (Mechanical) & MBA (Marketing) degrees from Indian universities. I have 15 years of work experience in the automotive industry (Sector Automotive parts manufacturing/ automotive components) in India. I am currently employed as a Business development manager with a European MNC' s Indian subsidiary. In my 15 years , I have experience of sales planning, budgeting , market analysis, product costings , quote preparations, commercial negotiations and contract management with automotive OEM clients. In short I have a stable job. My only motivation of moving to Canada is to experience a better work -life balance for me and my family.

My current employers have a production set up & office in Alliston , Ontario (90 kms north of Toronto) and I explored about job-opportunities with the HR manager. She informed me that the only openings that they have currently is of Production team members. I am in a fix whether to accept this role and gain some Canadian experience or wait for some better opportunities that can match my current profile by living in Toronto/GTA. What would be your suggestions?

Another question I have is the timing of landing in Canada? 2 dependents will be accompanying me to Canada. Our visas are valid upto end of May 18. I am in a dilemma whether to move alone first in Jan / Feb 18 , to find the job , finalise the housing and schooling for my daughter and go through the initial struggle or to move with my family sometime in Apr /May when the weather is better and then start look out for jobs/ housing / schooling etc.

Looking forward to receiving your suggestions & inputs.
 

greengoo5

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Aug 31, 2016
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105
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Hello greengoo5,

Thank you very much for sharing your experiences and providing wonderful insights into life in Toronto and Canada for new immigrants. I wish you all the very best for the future!

I received my COPR last week and am in my late thirties. I am from India and have B.E. (Mechanical) & MBA (Marketing) degrees from Indian universities. I have 15 years of work experience in the automotive industry (Sector Automotive parts manufacturing/ automotive components) in India. I am currently employed as a Business development manager with a European MNC' s Indian subsidiary. In my 15 years , I have experience of sales planning, budgeting , market analysis, product costings , quote preparations, commercial negotiations and contract management with automotive OEM clients. In short I have a stable job. My only motivation of moving to Canada is to experience a better work -life balance for me and my family.

My current employers have a production set up & office in Alliston , Ontario (90 kms north of Toronto) and I explored about job-opportunities with the HR manager. She informed me that the only openings that they have currently is of Production team members. I am in a fix whether to accept this role and gain some Canadian experience or wait for some better opportunities that can match my current profile by living in Toronto/GTA. What would be your suggestions?

Another question I have is the timing of landing in Canada? 2 dependents will be accompanying me to Canada. Our visas are valid upto end of May 18. I am in a dilemma whether to move alone first in Jan / Feb 18 , to find the job , finalise the housing and schooling for my daughter and go through the initial struggle or to move with my family sometime in Apr /May when the weather is better and then start look out for jobs/ housing / schooling etc.

Looking forward to receiving your suggestions & inputs.
I'd seriously recommend taking the role that you're getting in Alliston. Nothing beats a permanent job as soon as you land. You can start looking for new job opportunities as soon as you settle down. The steady stream of income goes a long way.

If the visa is valid till May, accept the job offer and land in March alone. One month is enough to find housing. Get your family there in April/May. Schooling is free and schools are allocated based on the area you live in. You'll easily find a basement or an apartment in Allison. You can bring your family in April/May. You only have to worry about housing if you accept the job. It's a good opportunity I'd say. Really good.
 

Dave2017

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It opens in Jan. Doesn't really get stagnant in March. Companies hire throughout the year. It's just that the hiring gets really slow during December due to the vacations and year ends. So it picks up pace in January and sort of opens up.
Got it. Thanks a ton for replying:) .
 

shilpi

Full Member
Nov 26, 2013
42
10
Visa Office......
new delhi
NOC Code......
1112
App. Filed.......
17-04-2017
AOR Received.
17-04-2017
Med's Done....
18-06-2017
Passport Req..
15-07-2017
VISA ISSUED...
01-08-2017
I've been a long time lurker of this forum. I don't post often but do have a habit of checking out threads quietly. Figured I should contribute by sharing my experience in Canada.

Back Home
I'm from India. In mid 20s. Did well academically. MBA from a top 10 school. Amazing job right out of college that paid well. 15ish Lacs/annum if you're curious. Two years later, I'm working as a manager with a 50% bump in salary. Lived at home with parents so didn't even have to pay rent. To summarize it, I was doing well. Very well.

Express Entry and PR
I had been in the pool since Jan-15 when Express Entry started. Got my three years of experience and got an invite in early 2016. I started browsing the forums after almost four months of getting my AOR. I didn't really need help with respect to the application process as I followed all the rules by the letter and had a pretty clear cut case. My process closely followed the norms. BG change after a few months. PPR slightly before the onset of the seventh month in Oct-16. Sent passports to the High Commission and received it back within a week. Booked my tickets and landed in Canada in Nov-16. Had an address in hand at the airport so applied for PR Card then and there only. The process was slow due to Christmas. Received a mail in January asking for fresh photographs. Received the PR Card in early Feb.

Canada
I am fortunate enough to have a family in Canada. I have a brother and a close uncle living in Canada for quite some time now.
Landed in mid Nov-16. Having slogged for 3+ years at my previous corporate finance job, I decided to chill for a good period of time. There's little hiring in December anyways. Really enjoyed my time. It was cold, but it was fun. Everything clad in white is a sight for the eyes which haven't witnessed snow in their life. With good gear, it's much easier to tolerate. Snowball fights as a grown man are even more fun...you miss less shots. I explored the beauty of the country side, the tall buildings of downtown Toronto and the history that the small towns have to offer. My vacation was fun but hardly did I know that it'd get stretched longer than I had initially thought.

Come 2017 and I started looking for work. I have a commerce degree with an MBA. I have also passed all three levels of the CFA exam. A year or two ago, my brother had shown my resume to a few people and everyone was of the opinion that I'd get a job fairly easy. Boy oh boy. I took it easy at first. Applying to a few jobs, relaxing for the rest of the day and spending time with the family. Slowly it dawned on me that it'd require much more effort than what I was putting in. I went gungho and started applying to a LOT of jobs everyday. But I'd only apply to the ones which were as per my skill level and interested me. I got a few phone calls from the HR. I blew a few. I aced a few. An even fewer interviews. I blew a few. I aced an even fewer. The absence of Canadian experience or qualification definitely hurt my chances to say the least. An Indian name didn't really help much either. But I'm a hard worker. I don't give up easily.

Fast forward to today. I have a job. My work closely resembles to what I was doing in India. The pay is nice. The commute is okay. The work is good. I'm happy.

The Reality
How do I find Canada? Amazing.
Is it easy to come from a foreign country and settle down? Not as easy as you think.
But I just made it sound like it's not a lot of trouble? Yeah, but chances are, you're not as fortunate as me.

I have my family here which is very supportive. Not even once they pushed me for a job which I didn't like or pressured me to start work at any time. There were days during my job hunt when I would be at an all time low, having blown up my few opportunities and having nothing else in hand. There were extended periods of time when I would just keep applying and not get any other response except the "We picked some other candidate. Yo". But I'm a hard worker. I don't give up easily. I kept applying.

I've figured that it's a numbers game. I applied to more than 500 jobs. and mind you, only the jobs that interested me and were a good match for my skillset. I received a phone call from around ten employers. A face to face interview with five and a job offer from one. You can do the percentages.

The Journey
People asked me if I was crazy to leave an amazing job in my hometown to move to a totally new country. They'd ask me if I had weighed in everything correctly before taking the risk. I don't consider myself to be super smart but I know that I'm hard working. I knew what I was risking and was aware of the fact that I had a supporting family in Canada. There were a multitude of reasons why I wanted to leave India and I'm not going to dwell upon them. The reasons are different for everyone. But when I'm asked the reason why I moved to Canada? For a better future for my family.

Every country has it's own set of problems. You just have to see what is important for you and take a decision. You have all the resources and the time to take an informed decision. There are a lot of times in life when you know things are not going to be easy and that you'd have to work hard for them. Chances are, even after putting in your 100%, things don't work in your favor. But that doesn't mean you stop trying. You put in your 110% and you make them work. That's how we progress.

So what's the takeaway?
  • The lack of Canadian credentials/ experience severely hurts your chances. Having passed CFA exams helped me a lot. I believe it was the only reason I received the 10 phone calls. It really helps to get Canadian credentials as soon as you put your foot here. Further explanation below.
  • I scored an 8 on IELTS. I've watched English soaps and listened to Eminem all my life. And yet, there are times when I've to request people to repeat themselves. It's really important that you are proficient both in listening and speaking English. It's going to make and break everything for you. From your daily conversations to the interviews. Speak slow and speak clear. Also, accent training helps a lot. Youtube my friend.
  • Be prepared to work hard once you get here. If you're financially strong, good for you. Don't worry too much about the money and invest the time in getting Canadian credentials and searching for a job. If you're not, you've got to grab whatever comes at you. The thing that I love about Canada, there's no big or small work. It's just work. You're respected and treated like a human being no matter what you do.
  • The weather is bad. But it's not the end. 30 Mil people live here. You have to invest in the right gear. A good winter jacket costs a lot but think of it as an investment as it's going to last you a while. Also, snow boots, gloves and a hat. Heck, I used to put on winter gear and spend hours building snow-forts in -15 C.
  • Be prepared to work hard. Very hard.

A few tips for the credentials
Chartered Accountants and people interested in accounting. -> http://www.cpaontario.ca
Lawyers -> http://flsc.ca/
Teachers -> https://www.oct.ca/
People interested in Banking -> https://www.ific.ca/en/ & https://www.csi.ca/student/en_ca/courses/csi/csc.xhtml
People interested in Insurance -> https://www.ifse.ca/courselist/life-license-qualification-program-llqp/

The above links have information about credentials required for certain jobs. I'd be best if you search for the profiles you like on https://www.indeed.ca/ and see the kind of credentials the employers require.
Having credentials helps in the sense that the employer at least knows that you are willing to put in work and learn about the culture, taxation and the systems of the new country.

I can go on and on about a lot of stuff but it'd just be adding to the length of this page. If you have any questions, let me know. I'd be happy to answer.
what certification will you suggest for people under NOC1112 (financial and investment analyst)???? I have a KPO experience of 8 years in equity and financial research in India.
 

shilpi

Full Member
Nov 26, 2013
42
10
Visa Office......
new delhi
NOC Code......
1112
App. Filed.......
17-04-2017
AOR Received.
17-04-2017
Med's Done....
18-06-2017
Passport Req..
15-07-2017
VISA ISSUED...
01-08-2017
Canadian work experience helps in both ways. Even if it is not directly related to your work, it helps. Ff you're associated with a decent brand, it shows that you are capable of doing well in Canada and this is exactly what employers look for.

A lot of people coming to Canada on PR lack even the basic communication skills. A lot of people lie on their resume to get jobs and then prove to be a disappointment. A history of such people has led to employers being really cautious of new immigrants.
nice post grrengoo5.. what's your NOC code and what all certification did you do??
 

canuck78

VIP Member
Jun 18, 2017
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Hello greengoo5,

Thank you very much for sharing your experiences and providing wonderful insights into life in Toronto and Canada for new immigrants. I wish you all the very best for the future!

I received my COPR last week and am in my late thirties. I am from India and have B.E. (Mechanical) & MBA (Marketing) degrees from Indian universities. I have 15 years of work experience in the automotive industry (Sector Automotive parts manufacturing/ automotive components) in India. I am currently employed as a Business development manager with a European MNC' s Indian subsidiary. In my 15 years , I have experience of sales planning, budgeting , market analysis, product costings , quote preparations, commercial negotiations and contract management with automotive OEM clients. In short I have a stable job. My only motivation of moving to Canada is to experience a better work -life balance for me and my family.

My current employers have a production set up & office in Alliston , Ontario (90 kms north of Toronto) and I explored about job-opportunities with the HR manager. She informed me that the only openings that they have currently is of Production team members. I am in a fix whether to accept this role and gain some Canadian experience or wait for some better opportunities that can match my current profile by living in Toronto/GTA. What would be your suggestions?

Another question I have is the timing of landing in Canada? 2 dependents will be accompanying me to Canada. Our visas are valid upto end of May 18. I am in a dilemma whether to move alone first in Jan / Feb 18 , to find the job , finalise the housing and schooling for my daughter and go through the initial struggle or to move with my family sometime in Apr /May when the weather is better and then start look out for jobs/ housing / schooling etc.

Looking forward to receiving your suggestions & inputs.


Would also suggest taking the job transfer. The auto industry is not booming in Canada so not sure how many opportunities you will find. Allison will provide an easy transition. You can rent a house for a reasonable cost vs a larger city. After you gain a few years of Canadian experience you can move on if you want. Canadian experience is really valued by employers and is often a stumbling block for new Canadians. I would say March as well. Finding rental properties and moving will be much easier. People tend to avoid moving in the winter months if possible. As mentionned, if you are registerimg for public school your school choice will be based on your home address and your children can start school once you have a permanent address even with a few months left in the school year.
 
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Chalcedony

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Sep 13, 2017
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Hello greengoo5,

Thank you very much for sharing your experience. It is definitely a motivating post for the new immigrants. I received my COPR. I am quite confused about the job market. Here in India, I am a college lecturer by profession. My educational qualification is MBA and I have 5 years of teaching experience. I also have one and half a year work experience as customer service representative. Is it too difficult to find a teaching job? Should I consider finding a job in customer service first and then look for a teaching job? My husband is a restaurant manager. Will he be able to secure a similar job? Please provide your inputs and suggestions.

Looking forward for your valuable piece of advice.
 

dsr

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Jul 9, 2016
34
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Well, the job process was a long one. Multiple interviews. The process started in early Feb and I got the offer in mid March.

A few years of experience would help one land a senior financial analyst position which pays anywhere between $70k-90k.
You mean 70-80k in hand after taxes ?
I have 10 years on IT exp (in development) and recently got PR. Should I leave current job and travel to Canada taking some risk. Just wanted to take your opinion on this bro. Thanks! :D
 

greengoo5

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what certification will you suggest for people under NOC1112 (financial and investment analyst)???? I have a KPO experience of 8 years in equity and financial research in India.
If you're aiming for the banking sector, you'll have to start off as an advisor. CSC and IFIC.
If you want to go down the financial analyst path, a CPA would be a good bet.

nice post grrengoo5.. what's your NOC code and what all certification did you do??
NOC1112. Didn't do any certifications. Already had a CFA.

Hello greengoo5,
Thank you very much for sharing your experience. It is definitely a motivating post for the new immigrants. I received my COPR. I am quite confused about the job market. Here in India, I am a college lecturer by profession. My educational qualification is MBA and I have 5 years of teaching experience. I also have one and half a year work experience as customer service representative. Is it too difficult to find a teaching job? Should I consider finding a job in customer service first and then look for a teaching job? My husband is a restaurant manager. Will he be able to secure a similar job? Please provide your inputs and suggestions.
Looking forward for your valuable piece of advice.
Teaching is a very lucrative profession in Canada. Teachers are very well paid but it's slightly difficult to enter the profession. You'd have to start off as a supply teacher who fills in while the full-time teachers take vacation or a day off. It takes time but once you enter the system, you're set. Since your husband has prime customer service experience, he can get some good customer service jobs and he can climb his way to the store manager of a decent store easily.

Consider this, if you're able to get the same jobs in Canada in let's say the next 5 years, you'll be able to afford a nice house and a car or two which seems to be a distant dream in India for the middle class.

You mean 70-80k in hand after taxes ?
I have 10 years on IT exp (in development) and recently got PR. Should I leave current job and travel to Canada taking some risk. Just wanted to take your opinion on this bro. Thanks! :D
Hah. Before Taxes and deductions. In hand is almost 70-75%. If you have a PR, I'd really suggest you give it a shot. The quality of life is much better and the work-life balance along with the work quality is amazing here.
 
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Chalcedony

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Sep 13, 2017
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Thank you so much for the valuable and inspiring information. Will certainly follow your suggestions. Thanks a ton!
 

MarinCa

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Mar 24, 2017
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Hi grengoo5!

Thank you for valuable information. Could you advise please, where did you find good recruiters or staff agencies? I've never used them in my country, so I feel a bit confused.