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Just landed no PR card can I return from US by Fly??

WAKHO

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Hello
If I just became a landed immigrant, of course I am not getting my PR card right away. However, I would need to fly to US for a week and fly back with commercial plane.
Anyone had experience like this and put off OK?

Any tips guys??
thanks
 

scylla

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Depends on the passport you hold. Are you visa exempt?
 

scylla

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Then you need either your PR card or a travel document if you want to return to Canada via a commercial flight. One of these documents is mandatory to board the flight.
 

Rob_TO

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Yes travel document is mandatory. Link here: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/travel.asp
Depending where you are going in the US, you will need to arrange with the closest visa office to have your travel document issued and picked-up during the time you are there.

You will not be able to board a return airplane back to Canada, with no visa/travel document or no PR card.

Other options you have are:
- Don't do your PR landing until you return from US trip (assuming you have COPR but have not landed yet)
- fly to a US city close to border, and then drive across the border into Canada. On the Canadian side, all you need is passport + COPR to prove your PR status.
 

WAKHO

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THANKS
I have no choice but to land right now. but for coming back from the state. I can still drive myself back If I am refused to board my connection plane ?
 

WAKHO

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A temp resi can travel to US without reentry visa to fly back
A PR must have travel doc to fly back. but if driving there is no need of Travel doc. I guess it is really the airline's making this so difficult.
 

Rob_TO

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WAKHO said:
JOKES
A temp resi can travel to US without reentry visa to fly back
A PR must have travel doc to fly back. but if driving there is no need of Travel doc. I guess it is really the airline's making this so difficult.
Yes, when you land as PR, any TRV, study or work visa you may have are voided and removed. So all you have is PR status.

However airlines are only trained to accept PR cards as proof of PR status. So until you get your PR card (or temporary travel doc), you can NOT board any international airline back to Canada. Without PR card or travel doc you WILL be denied boarding, so I would not even try.

Driving will be fine, since you can go right to Canadian immigration, where you don't need actual PR card.
 

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WAKHO said:
JOKES
A temp resi can travel to US without reentry visa to fly back
A PR must have travel doc to fly back. but if driving there is no need of Travel doc. I guess it is really the airline's making this so difficult.
It is not the airlines that is making it difficult. Airlines/buses/ferries will be heavily fined if they allow a passenger without proper IDs to enter Canada unlawfully. So commercial transports screen the passengers for proper IDs to prevent themselves from getting heavily fined. So these commercial transports are told that PR cards are the only official form of IDs for PRs that are acceptable for passengers who don't have visas to enter Canada.

Screech339
 

WAKHO

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Rob_TO said:
Yes, when you land as PR, any TRV, study or work visa you may have are voided and removed. So all you have is PR status.

However airlines are only trained to accept PR cards as proof of PR status. So until you get your PR card (or temporary travel doc), you can NOT board any international airline back to Canada. Without PR card or travel doc you WILL be denied boarding, so I would not even try.

Driving will be fine, since you can go right to Canadian immigration, where you don't need actual PR card.
thanks. I just saw NY Visa office is closed down. Do you know where I can send application for Travel document?
 

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WAKHO said:
thanks. I just saw NY Visa office is closed down. Do you know where I can send application for Travel document?
Where did you see the info on the closure?

The NY and LA Offices handle travel documents in the US per http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/offices/apply-where.asp (look at the third column for "Travel Documents")
 

little_apple

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in Calgary since March 29, 2012. Landed as PR May 3, 2014
Rob_TO said:
Yes, when you land as PR, any TRV, study or work visa you may have are voided and removed. So all you have is PR status.

However airlines are only trained to accept PR cards as proof of PR status. So until you get your PR card (or temporary travel doc), you can NOT board any international airline back to Canada. Without PR card or travel doc you WILL be denied boarding, so I would not even try.

Driving will be fine, since you can go right to Canadian immigration, where you don't need actual PR card.
I am visa exempt and they only let me board yesterday because I had a visitor record which I didn't need to enter Canada but to board the plane. The airlines are really strict
 

Rob_TO

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VISA ISSUED...
30-10-2012
LANDED..........
16-11-2012
little_apple said:
I am visa exempt and they only let me board yesterday because I had a visitor record which I didn't need to enter Canada but to board the plane. The airlines are really strict
Any visa-exempt traveler in the world is able to board a flight to Canada with nothing except their passport and a round-trip ticket.
The only issue is when people are traveling on 1-way tickets, and then it's up to how picky/strict the airline staff is.

A visitor record helps as you experienced, but it's not essential. Another option for someone that doesn't have a visitor record is to get a fully-refundable return ticket and just cancel it right after.