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Just Landed - Landing Story

yelloweyedmage

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Nov 11, 2015
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30-06-2016
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17-02-2016
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21-02-2017
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01-03-2017
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11-03-2017
Me and my husband drove to the Ogdensburg-Prescott International Bridge today to land. My husband is the sponsor and I was the PR applicant.

When we arrived we were completely confused about where to go and took a short route to circle back to the Canadian border control lines instead of crossing the bridge and going to the US side. There wasn't a long line at all despite it being Saturday and there were only a couple of cars there. We pulled up to the border control agent and gave him our passports as he requested. We asked the border control agent where to go for landing and explained to him I am here to land for my Canadian PR but we are confused about where to go to start the landing. He asked where we just came from and we said Canada. He asked again where we came from and we mentioned we never left Canada and just came to the lines directly instead of continuing on to the US since we were unsure what to do and wanted to ask someone. This seemed to anger him and he asked again where we came from, so we told him this again. It finally made sense to him and he asked where we are residing. My husband told him where he lives in Canada and mentioned that I am from the US and visiting him. The agent stated in a matter of fact way that I am residing with my husband in Canada, and my husband said no, she is visiting me with visitor status. He again stated this and my husband again said no, she's visiting and not a resident. This seemed to anger the agent, who told us in an annoyed tone to look at instruction #1 on my landing papers and that I am residing in Canada and therefore need to make an appointment to land at an immigration office in Ottawa. We explained I am an outland applicant visiting my husband and we are trying to do a flag pole landing. He asked to see the instructions and drew an arrow on the paper pointing at #1 and kept insisting this is the only way and that he can't do anything about it. We were trying to explain and he kept being loudly argumentative and sent us on our way, saying over and over there is nothing he can do for us in a rude tone. I was very shocked at the poor treatment of us and at the thought of my landing being ruined and was trying to gather my thoughts despite being very upset internally.

We drove out of the line and parked next to the building and I knew this wasn't correct information we were given. We decided to go inside to see what could be done to land me. We went to the immigration desk and told the guy there that I am trying to land as a permanent resident. He looked at my papers and took our passports. He asked when I last entered Canada and if I have a visitor record. I told him when I entered and also that I think I do have a visitor record. He asked if I have it with me and said it's a piece of paper and I said no, the customs agents at the airport had me stand in another line for an hour for a visitor record, then stamped my passport and sent me on my way without any other information. He asked which airport did this and I said Toronto, which he laughed from and said something like "figures". He then gave our passports back and told us we need to drive to the US side and then just drive back to land and return to him. He gave us the passports and papers back and we left.

We got in the car and drove over the bridge, arriving at the US side. The US border control agent on that side asked for our passports and we briefly told him we are trying to land in Canada for my permanent residence. He gave a nod and sent us on our way with our passports handed back to us. We circled around to head back towards the bridge and drove over it into Canada. We got in a different line this time because we wanted to avoid the border agent who gave us wrong information. The other agent asked for our passports and we told her we are here to land for permanent residence. She asked us a few standard questions like if we have the landing papers, if we have food from outside Canada, if we bought anything at the duty free store, etc. and then she handed us a slip of paper which had "landing" on it for the reason of entry.

We parked and went to the immigration desk again, giving him our passports, landing papers and the slip we just got. He asked me the two questions written on the CoPR (questions involving if I have committed any crimes or been denied entry, and questions about if there are any dependents not listed) and then had me write "no" and initial next to the questions and sign and date it at the bottom. Then he had us sit down while he worked on it, and after a lot of loud paper stamping he was done pretty quickly and told me I am a permanent resident now and congratulations. We were told the PR card would be sent in 4-6 weeks (he didn't ask us where to send the PR card to, so there was no option to have it sent to a relative).

Long story short, just drive over the bridge and don't ask the border control agents for help because they get really angry and can potentially confuse you even more... if it wasn't for you guys here on the forum I wouldn't have known about flag pole landings and would have listened to what the border control agent said instead of being a PR right now.
 

Aquakitty

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Glad you worked it out. I didn't even know there was free access to the Canadian side without going through the US side first. You have to actually leave Canada to do the flagpole, which is probably why the first guard was confused.

Anyways, congrats and enjoy your "new" Canadian life! :D
 

CanadianZenGirl

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Jan 24, 2017
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My husband and I know all about cranky border agents. :-X

Congrats. We hope you enjoy living here. :)
 

rcspousalsponsorship

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So happy for you, CONGRATULATIONS!!! so happy it worked out for you. Always follow your gut and you were armoured with information, nice ;)
 

yelloweyedmage

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Nov 11, 2015
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11-03-2017
Aquakitty said:
Glad you worked it out. I didn't even know there was free access to the Canadian side without going through the US side first. You have to actually leave Canada to do the flagpole, which is probably why the first guard was confused.

Anyways, congrats and enjoy your "new" Canadian life! :D

Maybe my husband took a road that only staff are supposed to use? :eek: There wasn't a no entry sign or any signs around for it... unless we missed it in our utter confusion. It was some little alternative short road that curves back to the Canadian side and leads to the border agents. Hope we didn't mess up and use some staff only road :eek: my husband is really good at finding bizarre and hidden routes by accident. The agent did seem abnormally angry, so maybe he thought we were sassing him by saying we came from Canada or that we are complete idiots... Oh well, at least it's all good now. :D
 

canvis2006

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Sept 2013
glad u landed in the end, some cbsa agents are terrible and don't like flagpoling people. It's too complicated for some.
maybe that crossing is not used by many people for landing so some agents might not be aware.
 

Aquakitty

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canvis2006 said:
glad u landed in the end, some cbsa agents are terrible and don't like flagpoling people. It's too complicated for some.
maybe that crossing is not used by many people for landing so some agents might not be aware.
But they (the kiosk agents) aren't even the ones who have to do the paperwork, so who knows what their problem is. You get the sociopath types doing those jobs for their power kicks. I mean, who on earth that's normal in the head would want to do that job? I'd imagine most of the time it would be boring as hell.
 

yelloweyedmage

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Nov 11, 2015
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21-02-2017
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01-03-2017
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11-03-2017
The guy was VERY condescending and loud... it was really shocking to me. It felt like I might be deported instead of landed based on how he was acting! Even inside of the office where the immigration desk was had this feeling of being intimidating. The guy at that desk was polite to me, but a couple got scolded for standing up at their chairs to see if they can come up to the desk and they looked really nervous the entire time after being told to "stay where I told you" the moment they stood up. I never like customs and borders related things because it feels like they can make me disappear for any reason or like you are under arrest for something. One customs person at an airport said she was having a really bad day, the travelers are "stupid" and then she sent me off to stand in line for a visitor record that they apparently didn't issue to me in the end and stamped my passport for entry instead. I almost missed my flight from that lady's bad mood and it was a total waste of time. And don't even get me started on that creepy way customs and border control just watch and stare at travelers to intimidate them as if they are prison guards... to be fair not all of them are like this and I met some really nice and relaxed ones, but some of them really have a strange authority complex.

I told my husband today a part of me thinks I haven't landed yet due to how bizarre and fast my landing was after such a long process and the rude treatment of us at the border. I think once I have my PR card I will feel landed, though.
 

canuck_in_uk

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yelloweyedmage said:
And don't even get me started on that creepy way customs and border control just watch and stare at travelers to intimidate them as if they are prison guards... to be fair not all of them are like this and I met some really nice and relaxed ones, but some of them really have a strange authority complex.
Oh yeah, that creepy way they watch people. I mean, I know they are just trying to read body language and mannerisms to prevent the drug smugglers, sex traffickers, terrorists, illegal workers etc. from hurting our country, but gosh, they can be so uptight about it. It's not like it's a serious job or anything...
 

yelloweyedmage

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Nov 11, 2015
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30-06-2016
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17-02-2016
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21-02-2017
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01-03-2017
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11-03-2017
canuck_in_uk said:
Oh yeah, that creepy way they watch people. I mean, I know they are just trying to read body language and mannerisms to prevent the drug smugglers, sex traffickers, terrorists, illegal workers etc. from hurting our country, but gosh, they can be so uptight about it. It's not like it's a serious job or anything...
:D Haha, I do worry if looking nervous will make them stare even more, which will then make me more nervous, which will then make them come over and question me... though everyone tends to look some degree of nervous when they have to be around the more intimidating looking guards. Then there's those guards who are laughing and look totally relaxed and are the nicest people ever, complete opposite of the others. When I landed and went through the other line, the second guard was one of those and knew what the flagpole landing was, thankfully.
 

Snowisland

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They didn't ask where to send your PR card because that question is on the form you completed and handed to them.